Alexandria Morgan

[dcjam]

Seriously people, start a Terry Richardson thread if you want. But please keep this one clean and stick to Alexandria Morgan photos and topics. 

 

Let's not continue to ruin this thread with back and forth nonsense about an unrelated topic.

[alfadolls]

someone using both 'style' and 'pedophilia' in the same sentence makes me real sick i gotta admit. i'd set rust cohle after you, i swear!

Lol. Call the doctor.

[Clauds]

I give a fuck about Terry's reputation tbh because I don't know the man and I doubt we'll ever know the truth behind all the stories, my problem with him is that I truly don't like his work. Always the same exact shit, he manages to make all his works look the same o.O

 

I will never understand how he made it so big because I dislike his work, a lot So I'd rather not see Alex working with him.

[elfstone]

^exactly. pirelli 2010 issue was a disaster thanks to him.you would be hard pressed to find another photographer who could make beauties such as Rosie, Miranda (at her peak in 09), Ana BB, Catherine Mcneil, look like hustler rejects.

[ILUVAdrianaLima]

O.o

 

And so it starts

[Ramsfan]

Great adds! 

[jj3]

JJ was this posted? I think it was but it was much smaller.

 

Larger:

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Yep Already posted HERE but yours is larger indeed

 

So I heard back from one of the designers who works with SI, and I guess after Alex's video went viral certain staff started to really take notice. I hope it's positive, keep your friends crossed.

 

... 3 millions !

[SympathysSilhouette]

^ I don't in any way, shape, or form believe Terry is totally innocent (if he was I wouldn't love him as much), but I don't think he's a bad a certain people are trying to make him out to be, and I sure as hell don't believe all these models are totally innocent in the quote on quote encounters.

 

 

This is a bit of an odd POV. If you believe there is something to the stories, isn't he a creepy predator?

[Prettyphile]

Have any of you bothered to consider that these victims aren't used to a person like Terry (lifestyle, photography, demeanor ect) and that they're crying foul because he made them feel uncomfortable because he pushed them out of their comfort zone and into his? It's a scary place for them (not).

 

I've personally seen hundreds of people over the years go to a bondage club I used to frequent thinking they're going to try something new, and once pushed into something unfamiliar they freak out and bitch that they were taken advantage of, some asked for their money back, others have threatened lawsuits... point is is they went there with certain ideas of how things were going to be and when they didn't live up, or pushed their limited they couldn't deal.

 

Same with Terry, certain models know what can happen and are cool with it, others just can't deal with and turn tail... but they still need to save face, so rather then saying "I couldn't handle the shoot/terry", they point the finger at someone else and the witch hunt begins.
 

 

On the atmosphere of his sexual shoots: “It was never just me and a girl ever. It was always assistants, or other people around, or girls brought friends over to hang out. It was very daytime, no drugs, no alcohol. It was a happening, there was energy, it was fun, it was exciting, making these strong images, and that’s what it was. People collaborating and exploring sexuality and taking pictures.”

 

On not forcing models to do anything: “When I was taking those pictures… I was very, like, ‘Cool, sounds great, let’s do it, great, okay, sure, great, cool, if not, no problem, never do anything you don’t want to do, of course, I totally respect that.’” He makes the point that agents and bookers shouldn’t encourage their clients to take on assignments that will make them uncomfortable.”

 

 

And no I don't believe any of the stories. What I mean by "I don't in any way, shape, or form believe Terry is totally innocent " has to do with his lifestyle, not the stories.

[SympathysSilhouette]

I don't see how Terry and the model having a different idea of what would or could transpire during the shoot excuses him from responsibility. If he had any reason to believe that the model might have the wrong idea, then it was precisely his and his entourage's job to make it abundantly clear before they even started the shoot.

Of course I'm not at all surprised by the victim-blaming, since that is pretty much sexual predator 101. They all create very exact circumstances in which consent is muddled and the victims supposed behavior will be frowned upon.

 

It also seems odd to equate this situation to a context like a BDSM club. It's reasonable to expect sexual acts when attending such a place.

It's also entirely reasonable for a model not to expect to be performing sexual acts during a photoshoot, even if the photographer has done so before and some of his models consented to it.

 

I'm pretty sure that e.g. Marloes Horst has done more than shared a cup of tea with Terry (during/before/after a shoot), which is of course purely fine if consensual. That does not mean that every single model who works with him should accept that as a given or that it gives him automatic consent to do whatever if they agree to work with him.

[Prettyphile]

No it doesn't excuse him from the responsibility, that's not we're talking about, at least that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the report after report of him sexually molesting these girls while a handful of people sat back and did nothing? Cause that seems logical right?

 

Look you guys can continue to White Knight this all you want, I've said my peace and if you don't choose to continue this discussion then that's cool. I personally as of now think this is a witch hunt. You can continue to try and make your point, and try to change my mind all you want, but I've felt like this for nearly as long as these stories have been coming out, and frankly I'm more inclined to believe what's going on with Terry from person who knows him on a personal level.

[2324lebron]

 

Just because those individual people had no bad experiences does not mean the other models' stories are completely without merit. A predator will not prey upon every single potential victim he encounters, he will seek out those most likely to stay silent.

This applies to all sexual predators. Of course he is not going to try anything with the likes of Kate Upton as that would be insanely stupid. By the time she worked with him, she was too big a name already for him to mess with.

And I don't see how the presence of his own staff makes the models any safer, not if - according to at least one report - he actually grooms his assistants to help him with the abuse (or at least the aftermath of it).

 

I'm not one to crucify a person on the claims of one supposed victim, but by now there has been so much smoke that I believe there is indeed a fire burning.

 

It is actually quite easy for a man like Terry to continue with his supposed behavior, just because he holds all the power. He has friends in media who can give him a platform whenever he wants to discredit the accusations. He has celebrity friends who rush to his defense whenever a new accusation is made. Most of his supposed victims are relatively unknown young women who just started out in the business, so the power discrepancy is such that their voices will always be drowned out.

 

 

So Terry couldn't have been going after the girls most likely to be receptive to what he wanted?  That isn't strange. 

 

He grooms his assistants?  I don't remember reading that.

 

I don't think Terry should be condemned for a few weak allegations and a couple of completely fake ones.  And lets not conflate some models taking issue with his pornographic style with the real issue here, sexual abuse.

 

I don't think this is about who has the power.  It is about who is telling an accurate story.

 

edit: And Terry is the one I see losing this battle by losing clients

[phenobarbie]

Actually the bondage club analogy is perfect. Terry is known for a specific type of shoot, it's generally very racy/sexual and pushes the limits of good taste quite frequently. That isn't necessarily his fault, because that is what sells. So if you're going to blame him you might as well start blaming society for buying it.
Now, going back to the bondage club reference, it's a very similar situation. These girls, are booked by their agency to go and do a shoot, they can at any time decline, (yes this may have a detrimental effect on their career, but that is the business). In accepting this shoot, they are going into the situation with the expectation that this may push them outside of their comfort zone.
Sometimes, I don't doubt that they are pushed a little bit to hard, but it comes down to the agent knowing their girl, and the girl saying no.
I think a lot of what happens, is they come back from the shoot and dwell on what happened. Upon dwelling, they come to the conclusion that they didn't like what happened, and so jump on the idea that they were sexually molested, harassed and/or abused.

As for the "idea" and that's what it is, (as there has been absolutely no proof beyond hearsay) that Terry grooms his assistants, there is almost no way that over the course of at minimum a decade not one person who has seen this quote on quote abuse hasn't had a crisis of conscious and corroborated with one of the "victims".
I think the main issue here, is that after the first allegation Terry probably just paid off the girl, because rumors and accusations can kill a career incredibly fast, (there's no better press then bad press after all ) and what happened is a bunch of other people jumped on the bandwagon to get a pay out.

 

As for these lawsuits that he allegedly lost in regards to the sexual harassment/abuse if that was in fact the case then you would be able to look him up on the sex offender's database of the United States and he is currently not listed. So either there was never a lawsuit, or he was never found guilty. So someone is lying hmm... who dun it?

 

Regardless, enough of this damn topic, seriously, someone stating they want to see her work with a photographer does not mean you need to start a witch hunt about how bad a of a person said photographer is. If you don't like them then that's fine but seriously, this is about on the same level as the feminism debate. Absolute drivel, he said she said blame games, and a whole bunch of personal opinions thrown out as fact.

 

Moving on back to Alex, I'm still absolutely fascinated with the fact that the bra was able to contain the girls, seriously must look into one for myself.

[jj3]

Sorry but... Alexandria is going to work soon with Terry ? No ehhh...

 

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[2324lebron]

I don't see how Terry and the model having a different idea of what would or could transpire during the shoot excuses him from responsibility. If he had any reason to believe that the model might have the wrong idea, then it was precisely his and his entourage's job to make it abundantly clear before they even started the shoot.

Of course I'm not at all surprised by the victim-blaming, since that is pretty much sexual predator 101. They all create very exact circumstances in which consent is muddled and the victims supposed behavior will be frowned upon.

 

It also seems odd to equate this situation to a context like a BDSM club. It's reasonable to expect sexual acts when attending such a place.

It's also entirely reasonable for a model not to expect to be performing sexual acts during a photoshoot, even if the photographer has done so before and some of his models consented to it.

 

I'm pretty sure that e.g. Marloes Horst has done more than shared a cup of tea with Terry (during/before/after a shoot), which is of course purely fine if consensual. That does not mean that every single model who works with him should accept that as a given or that it gives him automatic consent to do whatever if they agree to work with him.

 

The models gave their consent when they did what he asked them to do without saying no.  So let me get this straight, Terry has asked hundreds(estimate) of models to do sexual things on photoshoots with him, but a handful who consented at the time have regrets so he should be condemned?  Accused of sexual abuse? 

[Schemer]

The models gave their consent when they did what he asked them to do without saying no.  So let me get this straight, Terry has asked hundreds(estimate) of models to do sexual things on photoshoots with him, but a handful who consented at the time have regrets so he should be condemned?  Accused of sexual abuse? 

 

 

I don't think you understand how sexual predatory works. There is a ton of work explaining it all across the internet. Terry Richardson fits description perfectly.

And no, he probably never asked hundreds of models, only selected few. He would never do that to someone high profile.

 

Again, his behaviour (and his assistants') perfectly fits behaviour of sexual predator who uses his position of power to abuse his victims.

 

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[2324lebron]

 

The models gave their consent when they did what he asked them to do without saying no.  So let me get this straight, Terry has asked hundreds(estimate) of models to do sexual things on photoshoots with him, but a handful who consented at the time have regrets so he should be condemned?  Accused of sexual abuse? 

 

 

I don't think you understand how sexual predatory works. There is a ton of work explaining it all across the internet. Terry Richardson fits description perfectly.

And no, he probably never asked hundreds of models, only selected few. He would never do that to someone high profile.

 

Again, his behaviour (and his assistants') perfectly fits behaviour of sexual predator who uses his position of power to abuse his victims.

 

The man is an absolute scum.

 

 

He has asked many, many models to do sexual things for him and it has been documented in his books.  How can what he is doing be sexual predation when that is the very nature of what he does, photograph spontaneous sexual interactions with his subjects and himself and then exhibit it/sell it.  Are you not aware of this side of his business?  Terry doesn't have to conform to what your idea of what a professional photographer should do.  And he in large part made his name pushing these sexual boundaries in his pictures.

[jj3]

Fitting room selfie in my fav brand of mom jeans #aaselfie @americanapparel

 

 

 

Honestly, these days, i just can't stay away of her social media feeds, too much good