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According to Barbara in her latest Cosmopolitan (Hungary Feb 2013)

She is not an Angel

(Translation from Tarzaan @bz)

Reporter think she is a VS angel, but Barbara said, she hasn't got an angel contract, but she want it . . . :/

Hopefully things have changed since she did the interview. :idk:

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Did you know that when you're anorexic or have a severe eating disorder the first thing to go is muscle mass.. not fat. Last I checked Karlie has quite defined legs, one of the few high fashion models to actually have muscle definition. Just because you're featured on a pro ana site doesn't mean you are anorexic or even supporting the movement.

So congratulations on your job, or whomever you work with, but if they have actually taken the time to say oh that model is sick.. then they should probably re-evulate their jobs. It's not their place to say just based on a few pictures that someone is unhealthy, so either you're lying out your ass, or they need to go back to school.

Anyways, I'm walking away from the base levels of stupidity here.. if you all want to believe that Karlie is promoting anorexia or bulimia, or hell the cocaine diet feel free, that just says something about yourself not her.

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^I wasn't referring to you hun :) I was referring to those who love VS and what it represents, and talk about how they want their model to be an angel, then get mad that someone that is not their model gets in, then they start to bash the brand and say "well vs is going downhill anyway" etc. When I know that if they're fav model had been picked, they would be talking about much they love what VS represents, etc. ;)

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I'm going to try to explain what we're trying to get across...

My favorite model is Anne V (clearly). I think she's incredibly beautiful, versatile, should be loved by everyone, etc, etc. But I know that's unrealistic and it doesn't bother me in the slightest that it doesn't happen. I don't think everything she touches is gold. There are some misses because that's just reality (Jeremy Scott 2004, I'm looking at you D: ) Of course I want her to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated and I want her to be an Angel and walk the VSFS and book incredible blue chip campaigns left and right. Now Karlie becoming an Angel and Anne not isn't going to cause me to lose any sleep and while Karlie isn't my favorite model, I still like her and wish her success. I never cared for Chanel, but when she became an Angel, I didn't go around saying OMG SHE'S THE WORST/UGLY/ETC, WHY VS, WHYYYYY? SHOULD'VE BEEN SO AND SO INSTEAD! I'M DONE WITH VS.

That's what certain people are doing. That's what is rubbing some people the wrong way. It's not the opinion, it's the fervor in which they bash the models and praise their favorites.

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I'm going to try to explain what we're trying to get across...

My favorite model is Anne V (clearly). I think she's incredibly beautiful, versatile, should be loved by everyone, etc, etc. But I know that's unrealistic and it doesn't bother me in the slightest that it doesn't happen.

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^ No. The Theory is:

She has no curves. VS proclaims they use girls with healthy bodies. Using Karlie doesn't match their philosophy. The end.

Actually, you can't just tell by the weight if somebody is healthy or not - in fact, the concept of health is way more complex.

The weight is merely one single factor that creates probabilities, but in the end, it depends on the individual genome of each person if and to what degree these probabilities will affect their health.

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This tfs member (happycanadian) sums up perfectly in my opinion on the whole angel status.

IN MY OPINION, this is what should happen moving forward:

and it's time to let Adriana and Alessandra go. they're both legendary representatives for the brand and they both still look gorgeous and have many and more fans on this site who will disagree with me (i'm even a huge fan of them both, and have been for many years). but, i think everyone has a time when they can bow out. Heidi did it. Tyra did it. Gisele did it. it's been over a decade of working with VS. it's time.

Doutzen is looking the best she has in years. she's stunning. she's great for VS and has been great for them. but do people know her outside of fashion followers? has she really transcended into "STAR" the way that Heidi, Tyra, Gisele or Adriana have? no, not really. and i think she wants to, but i just don't think it's gonna happen. or it would have at some point over her extensive fashion and VS career.

and Miranda doesn't want to be there. you can tell! time. to. go. plus, she's utterly mindless in interviews. i love her as a model and i appreciate her street style, but seriously, she's not winning anyone over with her interviews.

Lindsay? she's been with VS for several years now and hasn't made even the slightest impact. bye bye.

Erin is beautiful, but she's dull and really only got famous for dating Leo. next.

Lily was fun and cool, but same thing -- contract Angel for years now and zero impact. adios señorita.

Lais is ridiculously pretty, but often her pictures are dull and have no energypost-63095-0-1446080647-92681_thumb.png. also, she's just not a personality. she isn't gonna be a STAR. if she were going to, we would've seen some hint of it by now.

SO, who stays?

Candice

Behati

Karlie

Barbara

and add one more:

Joan Smalls.

i know many of you will disagree with me, and that's awesome -- please, argue and debate and let me read your reasonings. this is a discussion forum; let's discuss! haha.

here are my reasons for the girls i've chosen.

CANDICE:

she really IS the current star of VS. her personality is more on the quiet side and i don't think she wants to be a big mega-brand. but she's absurdly hot, she's got the best body possible, she is ambitious in her fashion career, and she'll really take off once she's the sorta "head angel".

BEHATI:

famous boyfriend; check. great body; check. rock chic vibe; check. indie cool factor; check. she's really come into her own for the brand. she's got a different kinda energy and has that cool, hipster kinda sexiness that's natural and effortless.

KARLIE:

many people here and probably everywhere feel like she doesn't look the part. and there may be some truth to that. but, the girl IS. A. STAR. she's insanely driven. she wants to be a legit Supermodel. she is already branding out into hosting things. and she's versatile and interesting to look at. she doesn't blend into the crowd. she is the one who can take a VS contract and make it huge.

BARBARA:

she's still young. her youth and naivety is evident when she's interviewed or caught by paparazzi, but her pics for VS are utterly smouldering. she harkens back to Laetitia Casta. she has a body that straight men adore. trust me when i say that she will save the brand's appeal with men. she's just sultry. no getting around it. and in a couple of years, when she's super famous, she'll be even hotter.

JOAN SMALLS:

already a fashion superstar. she's American. she's creating her own brand. she has a fantastic personality and an awesome body and that face is stunning. i think she could be the most successful crossover fashion/commercial non-caucasian supermodel since Tyra.

NOW,

the only thing this formula is missing is the BAD GIRL. i mean, someone who just has a bit of a trampy, edgy, unguarded, wild-child aura. seriously - VS needs a Megan Fox kinda Angel. the "Naughty Angel". i've no idea if there's a working model out there who has this kinda vibe, i can't think of one off the top of my head. VS kinda had it with Rosie, but she split. any suggestions?

there are tons of great other models that we all love who will obviously continue to shoot for the catalogues and do the runway show and attend some events. they'll have some "Pink Girls", who are contracted that way. and they'll use Edita and Marloes and Magdalena and the ever-enduring-Izabel and a ton of other hot ladies for these purposes. but they won't be the SPOKESMODELS; the Angels.

-From The Fashion Spot

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