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IT seems to me that the right wing in Europe is about asserting the people's national identity, manhood and masculinity (nationalism, secularism, and projection of power via the military (including fighting terrorism), "liberation" from the shackles of US influence (our military occupation and the use of the EU as a dumping ground for the products and services of mulitnational corporations) and a nostalgia for reaching outside their borders to gain for wealth and achievement for their people.  The hatred/contempt for the mainstream liberalism is a result of a long term suppression of these emotions.  The severe failings/crises of the past decade simply brought these political feelings out.

 

 

JJ3/17 moments what do you think?

20 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

IT seems to me that the right wing in Europe is about asserting the people's national identity, manhood and masculinity (nationalism, secularism, and projection of power via the military (including fighting terrorism), "liberation" from the shackles of US influence (our military occupation and the use of the EU as a dumping ground for the products and services of mulitnational corporations) and a nostalgia for reaching outside their borders to gain for wealth and achievement for their people.  The hatred/contempt for the mainstream liberalism is a result of a long term suppression of these emotions.  The severe failings/crises of the past decade simply brought these political feelings out.

 

 

JJ3/17 moments what do you think?

 

Hence why movements like AfD are currently failing to get even near 10% of the vote in polls. Okay.

1 hour ago, Cult Icon said:

IT seems to me that the right wing in Europe is about asserting the people's national identity, manhood and masculinity (nationalism, secularism, and projection of power via the military (including fighting terrorism), "liberation" from the shackles of US influence (our military occupation and the use of the EU as a dumping ground for the products and services of mulitnational corporations) and a nostalgia for reaching outside their borders to gain for wealth and achievement for their people.  The hatred/contempt for the mainstream liberalism is a result of a long term suppression of these emotions.  The severe failings/crises of the past decade simply brought these political feelings out.

 

 

JJ3/17 moments what do you think?

 

Nationalism - yes, it's a rebound, caused by the unceasing abuses, encroachments and expansion of the supranational, globalist, neoliberal, bureaucratic EU and its control. This, and immigration caused the brexit.

 

People are against the US-EU trade agreement, but the globalist-neoliberal EU commission & multi companies are pushing it. The 2008 economic crisis came from the US into the EU, so the people experienced the dark side of neoliberal globalism. The southern EU countries are still in economic crisis, unemployment rates are high, Greece is in utter bankruptcy for years.

 

Sad but true, the US influence means instigating the EU and Russia against each other. The US forces the Russia-restrictions onto the EU, which hurts our economy badly. The strategic interest of the US is to impede the cooperation between the EU and Russia. The US does not want the EU (German) economy and Russian resources to cooperate. 

Most of people think girls from Eastern Europe  are the most beautiful but that's a lie!

Australian and NZ women are the most beautiful :heart:

13 minutes ago, frenchkiki said:

Most of people think girls from Eastern Europe  are the most beautiful but that's a lie!

Australian and NZ women are the most beautiful :heart:

 

christy who do you have in mind?

 

This is my updated favorites list:

 

Lorena Rae
Kadri Vahersalu
Susanne Knipper
Marisa Papen
Emma Barley
Maggie Rawlins
Noor Schauten
Jessica Burley
Julia Yaroshenko
Mae Van Der Weide
Delilah Parillo
Willow Hand
Meredith Mickelson
Kristina Grikaite
Britt van der Voort
Agnes Akerlund
Kara del Toro
Julia Almendra
Maya Stepper
Ellie Ottaway
Brittni Tucker
Brooke Perry
Ashley Graves
Agnes Akerlund
Sahara Ray
Ashley Graves
Meredith Hennessy
Ondaria Hardin
Alyssa sky
Abby Champion
Brittni Tucker
Elle Britain
Lada Kravchenko
Frederikke Sofie Fable-Hansen
Kristin Kagay
Allyssa sky
Hanna Edwinson
Anna Mila Guyenz
Yumi Lambert
Lauren de Graaf
Vita Sidorkina
Farah Holt
Eniko Mihalik
Tanya Katysheva 
Bree Smith
McKenna Berkley
Alena Blohm
Hollie-May Saker
Alexandra Martynova
Crista Cober
Natalie Jayne Roser
Irene Hiemstra 
Joanna Halpin
Julia Frauche
Hanalei Reponty
Lais Navarro
Samantha Gradoville
Candice Swanepoel
Maritza Veer
Rianne ten Haken
Charlene Hogger
Terese Pagh Teglgaard
Stef Van Der Laan
Devon Windsor
Lauren Mellor
Camille Rowe
Clara Alonso
Nadine Leopold
Lucette Van Beek
Samantha Ahrens
Auguste Abeliunaite
Samantha Basalari
Martha Hunt
Hedvig Palm
Erin Heatherton
Anna Christine Speckhart
Hailey Clauson
Milous Sluis
Sasha Luss
Nastya Zhidkikh
Natalia Siodmiak
Nanna Breinbjerg
Nadejda Savcova
Sanna Backstrom
Myf Shephard 
Vlada Roslyakova
Madison Headrick
Anouck Sanders
Hana Jirickova
Catherine McNeil
Elyse Taylor
Karlie Kloss
Nastya Zhidkikh
Amanda Nørgaard
Aksana Samy
Daphne Krooneman
Catherine McNeil
AnaBeatriz Barros
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Caroline Brasch Nielsen
Valentina Zeliaeva
Daria Werbowy
Barbara Fialho
Polina Kouklina
Sun Feifei
Liu Wen
Flavia de Oliveira
Lais ribeiro
Freja Beha Erichsen
Magdalena Frackowiak
Behati Prinsloo
Anne Vyalitsyna
Kati Nescher
Anna Selezneva
Julia Stegner
Hilary Rhoda
Sui He
Elsa Hosk
Constance Jablonski
Maryna Linchuk
Tori Praver
Frida Gustavsson
Marloes Horst
Monika Jagaciak
Karmen Pedaru
Toni Garrn
Hana Soukupova
Edita Vilkeviciute
Fabiana Semprebom
Martha Streck
Dionni Tabbers
Mini Aden
Caroline Winberg
Isabeli fontana
Abbey Lee Kershaw
Ginta Lapina
Aline Weber
Masha Novoselova
Carmen Kass
Lara Stone
Lucia Dvorska
Kasia Struss
Dewi Driegen
Valerie van der graff
Anja Rubik
Aurelia Gliwski
Cato Von Ee
Katsia Zingarevich
Anna Maria Jagodzinska
Arizona Muse
 

3 hours ago, 17 Moments of Spring said:

Nationalism - yes, it's a rebound, caused by the unceasing abuses, encroachments and expansion of the supranational, globalist, neoliberal, bureaucratic EU and its control. This, and immigration caused the brexit.

 

I saw something recently where pollsters asked the 'Great British Public' how many people in Britain they thought weren't ethnically white British. The guesses were in the range of about 40%, when the actual number is 18%. The guesses for Muslims in Britain were somewhere in the 25-30% range when the answer is actually 4%.

 

In other words, people in this country are being sold a big lie about 'marauding hordes' of immigrants and particularly Muslims. The reality is that in most areas of the UK, everyone is white British. The vast majority of ethnic diversity can be found in the inner cities (which interestingly, were mostly areas that voted to remain). Places that actually experience high levels of immigration don’t mind it as much, while places that haven't experienced it seem to fear it more. I myself come from a city that is 96% white British and immigration was the hot referendum topic there. But, side note.

 

The principal cause of Brexit was the delayed effect of the 2008 financial crash, and a series of decisions by our own government immediately afterwards. Years of attrition reinforcing the financial position of those who caused the problem in the first place, while offering no solutions to those stranded with low skills, as globalisation exported more and more jobs to cheaper wage economies elsewhere. Investment in infrastructure and education is a better approach in a time of cheap money than trying (and failing miserably) to reduce national debt and deficit by cutting taxes and public services.

On 6/5/2017 at 5:45 PM, 17 Moments of Spring said:
  • 2014. May 24. – Belgium: attack in front of a Jewish museum, 4 killed
  • 2015. January 7. – France: attack against Charlie Hebdo magazine editorial office, 12 killed, 10 injured
  • 2015. February 15. – Denmark: terror attack in Copenhagen, 2 killed, 5 injured
  • 2015. October 31. – a Russian plane crashed because of an explosion, 224 killed
  • 2015. November 13. – France: terror attack in Paris, 137 killed, 368 injured
  • 2016. March 22. – Belgium: explosions in Bruxelles, 35 killed, 340 injured
  • 2016. July 14. – France: outrage in Nice, 87 killed, 434 injured
  • 2016. December 19. – Germany: terror attack in Berlin, 12 killed, 56 injured
  • 2017. April 7. – Sweden: outrage in Stockholm, 5 killed, 14 injured
  • 2017. March 22. – England: terror attack in London, 5 killed, 46 injured
  • 2017. May 22. – England: explosion in Manchester, 23 killed, 116 injured
  • 2017. June 3. – England: terror attack in London, 7 killed, 48 injured

 

It's about looking at an issue in context, though. Less deaths due to terrorism in Western Europe than during the 70s, 80s or 90s. That’s important context. Furthermore, it’s roughly about a hundred deaths per year in an area populated by around 800 million people. By way of comparison, 450 people die in the USA each year by falling out of bed.

 

We should also take note of the great lesson of the 20th century, that we have far less to fear from over-hyped external threats than we do from our own governments, if their power is allowed to run unchecked.

Just hoping things won’t become worse as predicted. First generation of jihadist terrorists = Al-Qaeda, second generation = ISIS, a third one will probably be even more violent i.e. guerrilla warfare, biological weapons etc.

1 hour ago, Michael* said:

 

It's about looking at an issue in context, though. Less deaths due to terrorism in Western Europe than during the 70s, 80s or 90s. That’s important context. Furthermore, it’s roughly about a hundred deaths per year in an area populated by around 800 million people. By way of comparison, 450 people die in the USA each year by falling out of bed.

 

We should also take note of the great lesson of the 20th century, that we have far less to fear from over-hyped external threats than we do from our own governments, if their power is allowed to run unchecked.

 

+1, thank you! People using fear to justify horrid policies. :pinch: 

7 hours ago, frenchkiki said:

I was a kid but I remember we had so many terror attacks in the 80's :/ then in the 90's

 

 

Here is the list of all the terrorists attack in France since the 70's till the 90's/creepy :blink::wacko: (sorry French only)

September 86: 5 attacks in less than a week

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... It's pretty discusting the way you try to "relativize" (and i stay polite) these barbaric crimes.

Now, go ahead, and do the such with every countries of the world, you may be surprised. 

14 minutes ago, jj3 said:

 

... It's pretty discusting the way you try to "relativize" (and i stay polite) these barbaric crimes.

Now, go ahead, and do the such with every countries of the world, you may be surprised. 

 

It's more about being objective. These guys are nothing new. Europe has had to deal with groups like that through most of its history.

Some of them have all but been forgotten by history.

2 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

It's more about being objective. These guys are nothing new. Europe has had to deal with groups like that through most of its history.

Some of them have all but been forgotten by history.

 

>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40178183

Objectively ...

18 minutes ago, jj3 said:

 

... It's pretty discusting the way you try to "relativize" (and i stay polite) these barbaric crimes.

Now, go ahead, and do the such with every countries of the world, you may be surprised. 

:banghead:

It's absolutely not what I did, it's the opposite.

I don't even understand how u can think that?

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, frenchkiki said:

:banghead:

It's absolutely not what I did, it's the opposite.

I don't even understand how u can think that?

 

 

Ah sorry then :rofl: 

2 hours ago, Michael* said:

 

It's about looking at an issue in context, though. Less deaths due to terrorism in Western Europe than during the 70s, 80s or 90s. That’s important context. Furthermore, it’s roughly about a hundred deaths per year in an area populated by around 800 million people. By way of comparison, 450 people die in the USA each year by falling out of bed.

 

 

Meanwhile, 0 casualties caused by terrorism during the time frame of my post in the area of Eastern-EU.

 

Btw, it's foul play to mix deaths caused by accidents and deaths caused by voluntary homicide.

22 minutes ago, 17 Moments of Spring said:

Btw, it's foul play to mix deaths caused by accidents and deaths caused by voluntary homicide.

 

Of course very few, if any, of the deaths I mentioned would have been deliberate, and even fewer the result of a maniac targeting random citizens in support of a sick ideology, but the fact remains that there are greater dangers out there, even if their atrocities are more shocking. Personally, I always find facts and context useful. Different strokes and all that.

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