Just now, Tmorgan said:

Forgive my ignorance, but is Ming well known in the US? If this were on the final show, would she be known as "The model who tripped"? I agree that it would be a great way to show camaraderie amongst models, however I'd wonder what kind of lasting impact that would have. 

Ming’s audience is 10x bigger in China. Apart from Liu and mayyybbe Sui, the mainstream U.S. doesn’t know many Chinese models. I’d personally be fine if it aired but I really hope it wouldn’t take away from future career accomplishments and Angel status. I would love to see Gizele allowing her to have her moment at the end of the runway, that was an adorable moment.

 

VS aired out Elsa hitting Ariana with her wings in 2014, but more time-consuming mishaps tend to be the ones aired i.e. Ming and Gizele, Karolina and Natasha losing their shoes, Erin’s hat, etc.

One way they could do it is show part of the fall, switch to backstage reactions, then show Gi helping Ming up

3 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Too many pages to go through---could you please link me to the video of Gi helping Ming?

 

 

there you go

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbuM6oJgVz4/?taken-by=lifeofvsangels

There's a twitter moment about the fall right now. https://twitter.com/i/moments/932643716845703168

 

Also on the Sara pregnancy topic. It looks like she's holding a shot glass here. Doesn't seem like she's straying away from alcohol. 

 

5 minutes ago, Tmorgan said:

Forgive my ignorance, but is Ming well known in the US? If this were on the final show, would she be known as "The model who tripped"? I agree that it would be a great way to show camaraderie amongst models, however I'd wonder what kind of lasting impact that would have. 

 

TBH I first found out about her b/c there was a rumor she and Sean O'Pry were dating

Just now, tatehill said:

There's a twitter moment about the fall right now. https://twitter.com/i/moments/932643716845703168

 

Also on the Sara pregnancy topic. It looks like she's holding a shot glass here. Doesn't seem like she's straying away from alcohol. 

 

She's defo not preg just bloated maybe from not eating prior before the show 

Had a couple of hours sleep. I’m back to this mess.

 

Ive had a chance to look through everything.

 

One thing I will say. At least this time they didn’t do awful kinds of mismatching. Like Nomadic, the girls had a set of the same colour lingerie instead of mixed bra and underwear like in past years and then the accessories and wings added. Same for Porcelain, all the lingerie is dark blue and black with white and blue stuff added on. The looks are actually cohesive with each other this time around.

 

None of the outfits are actually that amazing. I haven’t seen anything that I’m impressed with. To me it’s just more of the same. Even though the Punk look is nothing we haven’t seen before in fashion and in general it at least was a bit more unique this year and you could tell a different designer was involved on it as it has a different style.

 

If the last two years weren’t an indication that VS need to fire their creative team this one most fucken certainly is. It’s a mess. Honestly I’m at this point where I think they need a year break to work on some new fresher ideas. They need to shuffle out the team involved and bring in some new fresh blood. I’ve followed this mess of a show for a while now. Even the better shows didn’t always have amazing looks but there was something about them before that was so good. The fact that these girls are walking out covered head toe is so bothersome. I’m not seeing a lingerie fashion show anymore.

35 minutes ago, Schemer said:

here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/7ebtog/so_it_turns_out_taylor_was_set_to_do_vsfs_this/

 

I know the Reddit OP. They're a nice person who knows a lot of shit about Taylor but I'm not at all convinced that this is a trustworthy source given it's a word for word regurgitation of gossip from other sites and they were pretty clueless in a previous VS thread. Makes no sense that VS would trick Taylor about Katy. 

6 minutes ago, ThePinkDiet said:

 

there you go

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbuM6oJgVz4/?taken-by=lifeofvsangels

 

Thank you! Maybe I am just PMSing but that video brought tears to my eyes That was so sweet of Gi to help Ming up and let her finish her walk. Also the models who followed were being supportive and waited

1 minute ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Thank you! Maybe I am just PMSing but that video brought tears to my eyes That was so sweet of Gi to help Ming up and let her finish her walk. Also the models who followed were being supportive and waited

It is a cute moment, it made me kind of emotional as well

so predications for new year : opening

Show : JOSEPHINE

other segment: behati

other segment : martha

other segment :lais

other segment : adriana

for pink: zuri

2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Thank you! Maybe I am just PMSing but that video brought tears to my eyes That was so sweet of Gi to help Ming up and let her finish her walk. Also the models who followed were being supportive and waited

 

I cried with this and also with Alessandra's speech. Say what you will about the outfits, but if VS manages to play their cards right I'll end up loving this shitshow just because of the cuteness factor 

Ok I just watch Candice's opening. There was definitely something off about her. She barely tried

 

Can someone enlighten me on who the man singing Winter Song in the Nomadic section is, I've been slacking hard this year on VS and frankly I'm embarrassed. 

I will post this a few more times just so we can have a good pool of voters to reference from!

 

Since there is good talk of Sara now, I created a poll for her possible pregnancy

And below is Candice's once again!

 

Do you guys think we may get split screens like in Boho Psychedelic for this years Punk segment during the airing? There's a lot to focus on in that segment, I can see them doing it.

7 minutes ago, Kevork89 said:

If the last two years weren’t an indication that VS need to fire their creative team this one most fucken certainly is. It’s a mess. Honestly I’m at this point where I think they need a year break to work on some new fresher ideas. They need to shuffle out the team involved and bring in some new fresh blood. I’ve followed this mess of a show for a while now. Even the better shows didn’t always have amazing looks but there was something about them before that was so good. The fact that these girls are walking out covered head toe is so bothersome. I’m not seeing a lingerie fashion show anymore.

On point.

 

I think somewhere along the way (my personal theory was as soon as the Angels became household names and this became an Event, which I would pinpoint as 2007 at the latest) it became about doing it bigger and bigger every year, making each show better! (bigger) and more exciting! (bigger) and new! (bigger) every year. The obsession with outward expansion is pretty directly mirrored first by the runway size and the model cast then the location changes.

 

And once it started being about pageantry it stopped being about the lingerie itself. They've had some good moments, like using swimwear in Angels Aquatic in 2011 (my personal favourite show), but it's stopped being about Victoria's Secret products and more about The Brand. Which might seem contrary to logic because they always capitalise on the show to sell, but there's so much more focus on the show itself and the Angels and not what's supposed to be shown.

 

Cosigning you and firing the creative team and taking a year off.

In other runway shows I’ve found models falling hilarious but this time not so much. It’s a much bigger stage and bigger audience to see this and it’s so publicized around the world that it’s gonna be everywhere. And it’s VS’s fault for packing so much onto girls. Had she not had that fucken fabric wrapped all over her she wouldn’t have tripped.

1 minute ago, RaffyPooh said:

Can someone enlighten me on who the man singing Winter Song in the Nomadic section is, I've been slacking hard this year on VS and frankly I'm embarrassed. 

 

AWT is Leslie Odom Jr., Nomadic Adventure is Miguel