6 minutes ago, pedsmbs said:

is grace still a VS angel ?

 

i believe she is, the last time she worked with vs was for the christmas campaign. her birthday is on march 18, we'll see if vs wishes her a happy birthday or not... 

so what angels are still working for the brand?

38 minutes ago, pedsmbs said:

so what angels are still working for the brand?

 

jasmine, taylor, sara, josephine, lais, alexina, barbara, stella and grace have been used for the last campaigns (if i'm not wrong), romee have been used to promote the brand while she was pregnant and leomie promotes the brand from time to time 

3 hours ago, claudiawilliams said:

 

jasmine, taylor, sara, josephine, lais, alexina, barbara, stella and grace have been used for the last campaigns (if i'm not wrong), romee have been used to promote the brand while she was pregnant and leomie promotes the brand from time to time 

do you think they will hire new angels ?

1 hour ago, pedsmbs said:

do you think they will hire new angels ?

 

no, the angel concept is dead. i believe this generation of angels will be the last

It seems VS wants to distance themselves for the Angel term for whatever reason *cough*Ed Razek*cough*.

They will obviously hire new spokesmodels (heck some of the recurring ones they already use may have that type of contract) but the won't call them Angels. The VSFS is also gonna stay dead, at least for a while, IMO.

it is really sad. the brand truly has lost its spark and gone to sh*t. nothing sets it apart from other brands.

Disclaimer: Deux Moi is all blind gossip and this could be completely untrue but we need something to joke and speculate about in here. 
 

Any guesses? My first thought was Ashley Graham but I’m not sure.  
 

4 hours ago, toodarnhot said:

Disclaimer: Deux Moi is all blind gossip and this could be completely untrue but we need something to joke and speculate about in here. 
 

Any guesses? My first thought was Ashley Graham but I’m not sure.  
 

Yeah, she's the one I was thinking of. Could also be Emily R, Kate Upton, or Iskra?

if it's really Ashley like i said before..

english isn't my first language so maybe i didn't understand well but does it say that *model* has been forced to sign up for that campaign or ? either way, if we have in mind that vs is trying to clean ed's mess, i also think it could be ashley

Doesn't Ashley have her own lingerie line? Would be weird. Kate Upton doesn't need the money, sis is loaded and she has never been in the super #woke movement so it wouldn't be super controversial, she also hasn't been super open about pregnancy and motherhood, it seems to me like she really wants to keep her private life private. Iskra is not famous enough to be a PR grab on VS' side. Maybe Em Rata who isn't particularly relevant anymore and is pregnant, and she has been one of the poster children from the wokeness wave and she is an "actress" 

 

I'm putting my money on Emily which would for sure be a new low for VS

 

This contradicting tip got sent in so who knows. 
 

Tangentially related but VS sent Elsa flowers after she gave birth. I could potentially see her still working one offs with the brand since they seemed to have parted on good terms and frankly I think Elsa is happy with the easy money modeling jobs while she focuses on branching out. 

Swim Spring 2021 from VS Pressroom

Models: Paloma Elsesser, Jill Kortleve, Imaan Hamaan and Taylor Hill

 

 

 

VS Spring 2021 from VS Pressroom

Models: Taylor Hill, Jasmine Tookes, Sara Sampaio, Devyn Garcia, Alessandra Garcia. 

 

does someone have an idea about what type of contract leomie has? it's weird for me that the last time she worked with them personally was before quarantine (i just checked it; the campaign was posted on february 2020). at first, i thought she didn't want to travel to the united states because of the virus, but i don't think she's * that * worried about getting it. she's really focused on her brand now so i think that could be the reason why she doesn't want to leave the uk? either way, doesn't vs ask their angels to shoot a number of photoshoots per year or something? does vs make different contracts for their angels or do all of them have the same? i never knew how vs contracts work lol like i said, i find weird that she can keep the angel contract when the only thing she does is taking 2 pictures with vs lingerie or pajamas every x months, post them on her ig and that's it

 

ps: i' m not criticizing her, she has nothing to do with this, i think

Just because she's working in the UK doesn't mean COVID is stopping her from travelling to the states. A lot of models aren't travelling internationally for work because the rules were very restrictive for a while. ie) You have a 1-3 day shoot in NY but you need to quarantine for 2 weeks beforehand. Then if Leomie had to return home, it's another 2 weeks of quarantine. So 4 weeks of quarantine for 2 days of work.  It doesn't make a lot of sense for the models or the company to book them when they have girls in town (or at least in the country.) 

 

I know this is easing now and I've seen more models travelling lately so maybe we'll see more activity from VS and the industry in general. I also think the New Angels got very short term contracts and it wouldn't surprise me if they've expired since and VS is still retaining the girls but without the same exclusive contracts. 

https://deadline.com/2021/02/hulu-order-rise-and-fall-of-victorias-secret-peter-berg-matt-tyrnauer-1234698789/

It's going to be interesting. I was just going over my stash of VS website photos, which now dates back over 20 years from around 2000 and tiny 380 x 512 pictures - one of these days I'll have to post the archive. Periodically I've been going through and cleaning out the photos of just the product without it being modeled (my script downloads all pictures linked from the VS web site). I'd say probably the zenith of VS was around 2012-2015 - interesting poses, good models, often trying to tell a story. Since they stopped having a catalogue, they went to boring white wall which basically kills it, although I still do a few pulls of the web site usually around the holidays, Valentines, and summer just to see what models are showing off what products.

Victoria's Secret to close 30 to 50 U.S. Stores While Bath & Body Works Opens New Locations

 

After closing nearly 250 stores in 2020, Victoria's Secret plans to permanently close between 30 to  50 more U.S. locations this year, its parent company L Brands announced Wednesday.

 

L Brands also plans to open 49 new Bath & Body Works stores in the U.S. and one in Canada, according to information the company posted online as part of its quarterly earnings... 

 

The Columbus, Ohio-based retailer says it is still planning to move ahead with plans to spin off its struggling Victoria's Secret brand into a separate company over the next six months. The New York Times reported this week that Goldman Sachs will formally begin pitching buyout firms about a potential takeover as soon as this week.

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/02/24/victoria-secret-store-closures-2021-bath-body-works-opening/6806159002/ 

thank you for the Swim post @toodarnhot. I like the feel and song in the video, it's has a vintagey/older vibe to it. They look like women, not kids, and like I said, the song is cool (and that's usually not my taste in music in the slightest). 

 

The pictures are good as well, not as good as past campaigns, but definitely not bad. I like that they're using bigger models, as I am more their size than the regular Angel/VS model size, so it's easier to see how a swimsuit will fit on me. I have gotten all my swimsuits from them, but didn't get any the last few years because they were ugly. I just kept reusing my old one (I had the white lemon one with the yellow ruffles that Candice and Behati modeled in 2013, omg it was so cute and lasted forever!!). So far no complaints, which is rare as I complain about everything they do anymore. 

 

@Marsnoop thanks for posting that! It looks very interesting. I don't have Hulu, so I hope i'll still be able to watch it somewhere. I didn't start reading about VS or this thread or got any knowledge of VS until 2013 (thanks to Candice!), but in high school I used to get the catalogue and I saw a picture of Alessandra Ambrosio for Swim and fell in love! I bought the swimsuit and continued to buy from them, and I love the yoga pants they make and even PINK used to have some cute shirts (not anymore sadly). I may not have been a big fan until 2013 when I found BZ, but I have really liked VS for a long time now, so it's sad to see what is happening. 

 

thanks for all the posts and discussion! I love reading all of your thoughts!