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20 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

What were the segments in order again? And does anyone know why they moved Punk Angels as the opening?

 

Maybe they’ve calculated that viewership always drops during the airing of the show so the most pair of eyes they can get is at the start so it’d be better to sell the collaboration then.

31 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

What were the segments in order again? And does anyone know why they moved Punk Angels as the opening?

The order is

 

Punk Angels

Porcelain Angels

A Winter Tale

Millenial Nation

Goddesses

Nomadic Adventure

35 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

What were the segments in order again? And does anyone know why they moved Punk Angels as the opening?

http://www.vogue.co.uk/article/victorias-secret-fashion-show-2017-backstage-pictures

“Things always change dramatically in the run-up to show time,” Neophitou-Apostolou said behind-the-scenes. “We had a last-minute change at 3.30 this morning for the punk section, which was supposed to close the show, and is now opening it. The team felt that the Balmain looks within the segment would be more impactful at the start. This, in turn, created a lot of changes in the rotation for the next sections.”

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15 minutes ago, Kevork89 said:

The order is

 

Punk Angels

Porcelain Angels

A Winter Tale

Millenial Nation

Goddesses

Nomadic Adventure

 

12 minutes ago, ivancica said:

http://www.vogue.co.uk/article/victorias-secret-fashion-show-2017-backstage-pictures

“Things always change dramatically in the run-up to show time,” Neophitou-Apostolou said behind-the-scenes. “We had a last-minute change at 3.30 this morning for the punk section, which was supposed to close the show, and is now opening it. The team felt that the Balmain looks within the segment would be more impactful at the start. This, in turn, created a lot of changes in the rotation for the next sections.”

 

Thanks Buddies!!! :flower:

1 hour ago, ThePinkDiet said:

 

Intimissimi is a great brand. Being Italian, I know it for sure since I've been using their lingerie since I could remember starting wearing a bra :rofl: The quality (in my opinion) is better than VS one. The little thing they lack is variety in their collections. Yes, their collections are 100 times more tastefull than VS ones, but you want to have some choice with colors and prints once in a while. If I can, however, I always try to grab a VS push up bra because I think they really make me look like a have a boob size more :rofl: I have tiny boobs so I appreciate a good push up and I think VS ones are better than Intimissimi creating a bigger size wise.

True, they could use some variation, but besides that, I prefer Intimissimi 100x over VS. It used to be the other way around though. Years ago I was crazy about VS, but then when I look at pictures of Intimissimi's older collections I'm like "wow" :rofl: Too bad I wasn't old enough to wear their stuff then. 

2 minutes ago, *Luna* said:

True, they could use some variation, but besides that, I prefer Intimissimi 100x over VS. It used to be the other way around though. Years ago I was crazy about VS, but then when I look at pictures of Intimissimi's older collections I'm like "wow" :rofl: Too bad I wasn't old enough to wear their stuff then. 

They have really classy lingerie, it's really delicate and feminine and it's also cheaper than VS even being better in quality.

So after ages I finally decided to do a competition about those girls who work/worked consistently for VS but quite never got their wings, leaving the link for anyone who is interested. Just in time for the VSFS 2017 craziness 

 

 

 

Ale wore the official swarovski wings (apart from the SO outfit) in Nomadic? ?

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9 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

So does anyone know why the outfits get more hideous each year? There must be a reason behind it besides the designers? Is it a conscious choice on some level?

 

I think it might have something to do with running out of decent ideas and as result overthinking & overcompensating in certain areas like with “artisans,” accessories, wings, etc. Other factors could be the lack of artistic and creative direction, censorship by the networks, poor execution due to the lack of proper skills, and not selecting the right type of models.

1 minute ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

So does anyone know why the outfits get more hideous each year? There must be a reason behind it besides the designers? Is it a conscious choice on some level?

 

 

I refuse to believe a creative team consciously tries to be horrible asthetics wise. I think they are being led by someone with very bad taste level, Sophia/whoever incharge needs to go. All models, wing makers, PR people, set designers etc do their best work but whoever taking these calls on the segment themes and the individual pieces is doing a shitty job and pulling the whole thing down. When somethings do turn out good it's evident that it was accidental and not a planned effort. 

 

It's a mess and in my eyes I can't respect this show anymore for it claiming to be the sexiest night or whatever it's called ! 

I don’t understand why they won’t just try to make every piece look really pretty/romantic/sensual/sexy. Can’t go wrong with that. They go into iffy territory when they pick themes that deal with exotic cultures and the like.

4 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

I think it might have something to do with running out of decent ideas and as result overthinking & overcompensating in certain areas like with “artisans,” accessories, wings, etc. Other factors could be the lack of artistic and creative direction, censorship by the networks, poor execution due to the lack of proper skills, and not selecting the right type of models.

 

I think it's a trend that probably already set in post-2007 (not that I think all of the creative choices prior to then were great obviously) and I think we have seen more of the poor outfits, either in concept, execution or both with each new edition of the show. The ratio of outfits that make me go "huh" seems to increase every year.

The sketches usually look good but then reality it fails miserably. They might be thinking too cartoony which look good in sketch but doesn’t translate well to reality. Anyway they should have realized this a long time ago. 

 

I don’t know why models even want to be in the show anymore because the whole thing is so embarrassing to me. I wanted to be a VS model pre 2009 but now hell no. 

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