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21 minutes ago, modellight said:

There are definitely top-ish models out there who have the bombshell look for VS but they don't have HF or insta relevance. Therefore, their agencies don't push them far enough! There are so many girls who are doing campaigns for the European lingerie brand who could be the next Heidi etc but their agencies don't push them. 

 

VS made Heidi, Adriana etc. They need to find those unknown bombshell girls and turn them into stars. Plus, everyone loves an underdog story. The general public would love to root on a girl who is too curvy for HF but not commercial enough for SI and finally VS saves them. 

 

Female pop icons don't really wear VS these days because the marketing is too kid like/Forever 21 (and why not get that stuff at Forever 21 if their markup is lower anyway). Beyonce is always seen wearing La Perla, Agent Provocateur...nice stuff. VS has lost that allure for women which is why sales are down but other companies are getting better.

Well VS either used girls who are already supermodels/top models/stars or took a girl and made it into one. The last person they succeed in doing that was Candice, and after that nothing, years have passed and nothing is happening in that regard. So I really think VS doesn't have that power anymore to turn girl into star/supermodel.

9 minutes ago, bellazonelurker said:

Well VS either used girls who are already supermodels/top models/stars or took a girl and made it into one. The last person they succeed in doing that was Candice, and after that nothing, years have passed and nothing is happening in that regard. So I really think VS doesn't have that power anymore to turn girl into top model/supermodel.

People outside of the fashion world complain that Candice's boobs are too small and she's too skinny and she doesn't have a butt like pictures make it seem (their words, not mine). Her agency and VS have promoted her through papp pictures and that's when everyone can see what she really looks like in a bikini. The reactions are not good and people then say that VS uses too many "tricks" to make their models look like bombshells when they just look like "adolescent boys" or "flat as a board on both side" (again, their words, not mine, Candice fan here). People use these kinds of words to talk about all the VS models nowadays but don't know their names. The only exception is that everyone knows Adriana's name and she has T&A.

 

They need to do something totally out of the box. Like use a plus size model. That would get a lot of positive attention. But from now on, VS needs to focus on going back to their heritage of curvy girls not sporty fashion West Coast teen girls.

Honestly only thing I ever read, even on Daily Mail comments which are usually vile, are people praising Candice and her body. Every model has a few negative comments, even Adriana, who is often stated as overrated, but they still both have much more fans then haters. And looking through forums mostly guys visit the only angels they ever talk about are Candice and Adriana, how hot they are etc, so I would say that people outside of fashion world love them even more. Fashion world is all about skinny hf models who look strange and they don't exactly fit that bill. Candice body genuine looks even better in bikini pap photos, so I don't see how that can make a negative reaction(what are you even talking about), on that kind of articles she gets even better comments I would say, because people hate photoshoped photos. Same with Adriana she sometimes gets nasty comments when she has makeup on, but when she doesn't have makeup on there are more positive. Candice ass is legendary, lots of people go crazy for it, so I don't really understand your point in saying she doesn't have one. I would say Adri has tits and no ass, and Candy has ass and her infamous long legs and best waist to hips ratio she is known for.

I can say honestly that I have never heard any of that you are posting and I am pretty active on net, so I think that you just don't know what are you talking about, and I really doubt that you are fan of Candice. Just a concern troll spreading nonsense.

And response that you wrote to me doesn't even have to do anything with what I have said. I just said that Candice is last model which VS succeeded to turn into star/supermodel/their main face, and that is a fact.

 

It's safe to say Adriana isn't going anywheres. They're probably scared to let her go because after almost 17 years as an angel, she is Victoria's Secret 

9 minutes ago, bellazonelurker said:

Which angels got the most airtime?

I would say Josephine, Elsa and Adriana

7 minutes ago, bellazonelurker said:

Honestly only thing I ever read, even on Daily Mail comments which are usually vile are people praising Candice and her body. Every model has a few negative comments, even Adriana, who is often stated as overrated, but they still both have more fans then haters. And looking through forums mostly guys visit the only angels they ever talk about are Candice and Adriana, how hot they are etc, so I would say that people outside of fashion world love them even more. Fashion world is all about skinny hf models who look strange and they don't exactly fit that bill. 

 

Lucky you. I've seen and heard a lot of negative comments about Candice over the internet, in stores etc...

Candice is a million times better than any of the "new angels" plus she has a very humble and compassionate personality which is why I like her. Something you don't see in younger girls today because of social media.

11 minutes ago, bellazonelurker said:

Which angels got the most airtime?

Adriana, Josephine, Elsa, Taylor, Sara and maybe Stella/Jasmine.

6 minutes ago, shver said:

It's safe to say Adriana isn't going anywheres. They're probably scared to let her go because after almost 17 years as an angel, she is Victoria's Secret 

I think she is safe, but Ale is going after this year. Lily also.

Just now, bellazonelurker said:

I think she is safe, but Ale is going after this year. Lily also.

Agreed. And Martha too

2 minutes ago, shver said:

Agreed. And Martha too

 

Wrong!

I believe that 2016 was the year of Josephine. She worked very  hard for victoria secret, these various photos and videos quickly conquered the fans of this company and others,( i know that she was already a star). She also became an angel in february 2016, she had these first wings during commercial holiday. She also played a reporter in the pre-show, which is reserved for the queens (even elsa and lais never did) and at the big victoria secret show 2016, she opened a segment with pretty wings and WEAR  swarovski outfit. And she had a lot of screen time in the show unlike the other angels.

And 2017 is coming, maybe she will open the show

5 minutes ago, BIRDS said:

I believe that 2016 was the year of Josephine. She worked very  hard for victoria secret, these various photos and videos quickly conquered the fans of this company and others,( i know that she was already a star). She also became an angel in february 2016, she had these first wings during commercial holiday. She also played a reporter in the pre-show, which is reserved for the queens (even elsa and lais never did) and at the big victoria secret show 2016, she opened a segment with pretty wings and WEAR  swarovski outfit. And she had a lot of screen time in the show unlike the other angels.

And 2017 is coming, maybe she will open the show

Or those boobies get the Fantasy Bra 2017

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