If you were VS, how would you "fix" the show or improve it? I think most of us are in agreement with the fact that it needs tweaking. 

1 minute ago, Kevork89 said:

ABC had the best VS show ever in ratings 12.4 million.

 

the VSFS used to be more for an older audience, now not anymore so CBS is not the right network imo

 

3 minutes ago, ceceshores said:

If you were VS, how would you "fix" the show or improve it? I think most of us are in agreement with the fact that it needs tweaking. 

I would change up the date. Maybe switch it to when fall shows start because there's good hype around that time. So maybe late August early September. Have one big act like Beyoncé. Make it more of a fashion spectacle like it used to be. Cut back girls and better designers. Go fresh with everyone. New director, production designers, stylists etc

1 minute ago, ceceshores said:

If you were VS, how would you "fix" the show or improve it? I think most of us are in agreement with the fact that it needs tweaking. 

 

Less editing, more focus on the runway, have performers between segments instead of BS filler clips, have it live again, display actual lingerie instead of costumes...that's all I could think of for now

^ First of all, i won't spend money in doing the show out of America (only 2 years after London's show), maybe in scenery and details on it, like moving cage of 2005 for example. (and, like someone said, if their major audience/target is american, focus on it doing the show in USA, i don't think Europe cares enough for VS to do the show here so assiduously)

 

Then, cutting the number of models, and make everything more edgy/fashionable, raw sex like back in 2006   (c'mon, sex is the best seller ) one big performer with a performance out of the segments, staph with the social media clips between segments.

 

I would make it sexier, focus on the lingerie and hot models.. what people want to see. A lot of the costumes are too over the top, and turn out to be a hot mess. They desperately need a new creative team, stylist, etc. LESS MODELS, and models who have the best walks and bodies. Also less segments with performers in them, and have the performers perform in between. I also like the idea of a different date, that would freshen it up a bit! 

Oh and definitely less editing!

They need bombshells, fast remixes, they need scenography like in 2005/2006, they need epic opening/closing, they need less wings, bigger wings, to not cover models up, they have to stop with segments where some angels behave like attention seeking kids etc. 

3 minutes ago, ceceshores said:

Absolutely, CBS skews the oldest demo wise of all the major networks. I don't think the VSFS is a great fit for the network for that reason. I know CBS collects the ad money, that's who I was talking about as far as them being not pleased with the fact that the show continues to lose viewers each year. 

 

Why do you think it will stabilize? It's been a downward trend in the demo for the past few years, including an astronomical drop between 2014 and 2015. 

I am going to continue to being annoying as fu bc again they are pleased. They have much bigger problems to worry about, they only have one show above what the VSFS did, their comedy brand is ruined and TBBT is leaving soon. NCIS is on its zillionth season, their shows on Sunday are drawing a 1.0 or less... They would easily sign another 5-year contract with VS. VS should be the one not pleased as they are a young-skewing event on an old channel, it doesn't make sense. The days CBS leaded are probably gone as now NBC is having all the heat with This Is Us, The Voice, Chicago Fire and more...

 

I believe it will stabilize for a few years because it also stabilized from 2012-2014. In 2011 they had a 4.6 demo and then they had a 3.6 demo in 2012 and then it stabilized

One of the bigger problems is that girls who used to be in the show were all supermodels and big thing in high fashion. Now supermodels don't exist, and high fashion models are not nearly as attractive like they were in Gisele time. Now hf models are either insta girls or too thin/bad bodies, strange looking, ugly-pretty is the new aesthetic, as they love to call it, and they have zero sex appeal.

So it is hard for VS to find bombshells or just beautiful girls with decent enough bodies.

1 minute ago, gotportugal said:

I am going to continue to being annoying as fu bc again they are pleased. They have much bigger problems to worry about, they only have one show above what the VSFS did, their comedy brand is ruined and TBBT is leaving soon. NCIS is on its zillionth season, their shows on Sunday are drawing a 1.0 or less... They would easily sign another 5-year contract with VS. VS should be the one not pleased as they are a young-skewing event on an old channel, it doesn't make sense. The days CBS leaded are probably gone as now NBC is having all the heat with This Is Us, The Voice, Chicago Fire and more...

 

I believe it will stabilize for a few years because it also stabilized from 2012-2014. In 2011 they had a 4.6 demo and then they had a 3.6 demo in 2012 and then it stabilized

Fair points! But yeah I agree with you as far as the fit with CBS, it's not a good one. I'd like to see them move networks but I don't think that's going to happen. 

 

I'm not sold on it stabilizing, at least not on CBS. 

19 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Less editing, more focus on the runway, have performers between segments instead of BS filler clips, have it live again, display actual lingerie instead of costumes...that's all I could think of for now

 

20 minutes ago, Kevork89 said:

I would change up the date. Maybe switch it to when fall shows start because there's good hype around that time. So maybe late August early September. Have one big act like Beyoncé. Make it more of a fashion spectacle like it used to be. Cut back girls and better designers. Go fresh with everyone. New director, production designers, stylists etc

Focus solely on the Angels, and with the money saved from the show, promote the hell out of it, with Tay, Sara, Adri, Ale, Elsa and Jasmine doing interviews on morning shows, afternoon shows, late night, tv show appearances, youtube blogs, make them famous and make them household names

VSFS is dropping in ratings, because it's nothing new. No matter how the models change, how the outfits change or the music. It's like a show that has been a hit years ago is now becoming one of those series where after season 20 people just want it to be over.

Another thing is the show and especially the angels just need so much more promotion. Make the angels real celebrities by booking them on talk shows frequently (and not to only promote VS, they should promote themselves), get them cameos on relevant TV shows and make them more relevant in the fashion industry (e.g. more covers).

5 minutes ago, ceceshores said:

Fair points! But yeah I agree with you as far as the fit with CBS, it's not a good one. I'd like to see them move networks but I don't think that's going to happen. 

 

I'm not sold on it stabilizing, at least not on CBS. 

I'm not that sold onto that too, but I kinda see it happen

1 minute ago, DeadlyRebel said:

VSFS is dropping in ratings, because it's nothing new. No matter how the models change, how the outfits change or the music. It's like a show that has been a hit years ago is now becoming one of those series where after season 20 people just want it to be over.

Another thing is the show and especially the angels just need so much more promotion. Make the angels real celebrities by booking them on talk shows frequently (and not to only promote VS, they should promote themselves), get them cameos on relevant TV shows and make them more relevant in the fashion industry (e.g. more covers).

hands down agree

1 minute ago, bellazonelurker said:

One of the bigger problems is that girls who used to be in the show were all supermodels and big thing in high fashion. Now supermodels don't exist, and high fashion models are not nearly as attractive like they were in Gisele time. Now hf models are either insta girls or too thin/bad bodies, strange looking, ugly-pretty is the new aesthetic, as they love to call it, and they have zero sex appeal.

So it is hard for VS to find bombshells or just beautiful girls with decent enough bodies.

There are definitely top-ish models out there who have the bombshell look for VS but they don't have HF or insta relevance. Therefore, their agencies don't push them far enough! There are so many girls who are doing campaigns for the European lingerie brand who could be the next Heidi etc but their agencies don't push them. 

 

VS made Heidi, Adriana etc. They need to find those unknown bombshell girls and turn them into stars. Plus, everyone loves an underdog story. The general public would love to root on a girl who is too curvy for HF but not commercial enough for SI and finally VS saves them. 

 

Female pop icons don't really wear VS these days because the marketing is too kid like/Forever 21 (and why not get that stuff at Forever 21 if their markup is lower anyway). Beyonce is always seen wearing La Perla, Agent Provocateur...nice stuff. VS has lost that allure for women which is why sales are down but other companies are getting better.

17 minutes ago, TKC said:

I said some of the new angels too. People want who they want. Because alot of people outside of here don't think they are as good as past VS models and it ruins it for them. You all don't like to hear that but thats how alot of people feel.

 

We don't like to hear it? Most people in this thread, myself included, have been complaining about various aspects of the show for weeks now and just about everyone wants some of the new angels to be dropped. Just not the ones they happen to like, of course.

 

The obvious changes that need to be made is less focus on the musical performances, fewer models, fewer outfits that have so many clashing colours that you would think were designed by somebody who is colour blind, bringing Barbara Palvin back, Okay, that last one is just a personal preference.

 

I am not sure promoting the hell out of the Angels is really going to make them household names if they lack the elusive "it" factor that models like Adriana have. Maybe there are no "new" supermodels in our day. For instance, most people probably know Karlie Kloss as Taylor Swift's BFF, not as a supermodel. Is Candice a household name? On this forum sure but in the minds of the average person, not really.

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