16 minutes ago, Lyla said:

I don't think I'm childish. I'm realistic and less PC I guess. 

She's fat/overweight/curvy.(She's also fit) It's fine. It's great that she's in SI, it's even more fantastic that she's the idol of thousands of women and give them hope and help them accept their bodies. But that won't change the fact that what you call curve is fat. You can't call the orange as peach. 

 

BTW when will ppl think the same way about skinny girls too? For some weird reason they never get huge back-up and understanding (not here, just in general) when it comes to body shaming... I guess there are more 'curvy' women...

 

 

Just so I understand correctly,  you think Curvy = Fat?

 

That's why I said "Embrace ALL Body Types." Last I checked I am person so that debunks your point. Fat, Skinny, Athletic, Fluffy, Pear-Shape, Apple-Shaped, Hourglass, Plegic, whatever. As long as you are not an asshole it's all good  

Just now, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

#StillABetterCoverModelThanChrissy

 

8 minutes ago, Lyla said:

I really don't understand you guys. It's not a coincidence why she's being called a PLUS-SIZED MODEL....

 

And they are called Plus-Size model because...

 

1 minute ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Just so I understand correctly, to you think Curvy = Fat?

 

That's why I said "Embrace ALL Body Types." Last I checked I am person so that debunks your point. Fat, Skinny, Athletic, Fluffy, Pear-Shape, Apple-Shaped, Hourglass, Plegic, whatever. As long as you are not an asshole it's all good  

Well if you're saying Ashley's not fat, but curvy, then, yes I think curvy=fat. Because by my standards she's fat. Sorry, not sorry. 

 

(And when I say that Barb is fat, I don't mean FAT FAT. I mean she has some weight on, sorry for not being precise.)

Fat is a relative term. So it's essentially meaningless.

A very thin person might feel fat if they gain like 2 lbs.

So what exactly is your baseline for comparison if you deem Ashley to be fat? It cannot be the population average in the US (or other English-speaking countries for that matter).

4 minutes ago, jj3 said:

@Lyla It's political correctness, even about that... Some people just need better eyeglasses that's all i guess  

 

Iskra deserved 100X to be there insteed of Ashley ...! 

 

 

eww, nooo. At least Ashley's beautiful. Iskra looks like the runner-up of the beauty pageant in a village somewhere in Essex or something

Fine, anybody who is on the thinnier side Imma just start calling anorexic

 

I'm out, can't even deal how so many people are turning something that could really be so positive into something so negative. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go back & read everything I have posted. Did I ever give my opinion on whether Ashley is fat or not? Exactly.

 

The saying "sorry, not sorry" is a contradiction. You are sorry for not being sorry which means you ARE sorry. Alright then.

3 minutes ago, Lyla said:

eww, nooo. At least Ashley's beautiful. Iskra looks like the runner-up of the beauty pageant in a village somewhere in Essex or something

 

I like pageants and i like countryside as well ...  

2 minutes ago, katchitup said:

Fine, anybody who is on the thinnier side Imma just start calling anorexic

 

I'm out, can't even deal how so many people are turning something that could really be so positive into something so negative. 

 

 

Ok my "anorexic" buddy  

 

I am  going to eat 2 BLTs with cheese (and I don't even like bacon) tonight as homage to you and Ashley  

No one will deny that USA have an issue with food ... And sometimes i feel it's in the air to prohibit something with what we can't andle... It's like, i can't lose weight, so, let's prohibit the word FAT...

 

Ashley is pretty fat, Iskra is pretty curvy. That's my scale ...

the natives are getting restless.  the 15th needs to get here. Rapidly. 

@Lyla I hope you know the sample size at runway show is 00? So pretty much anyone who is even a size 4 or 6 is considered plus-size those standards. Just because some assholes over at Paris decided to label girls who are not 00 "plus-size" doesn't mean you should follow them. Sorry girl, but your standars are bullshit and just because someone doesn't fit your standards means they are fat, obese or unhealthy. 

 

GO ASHLEY! I bet she has a healthier lifestyle than 99% of the people calling her names. She's getting shit but she's also getting a lot of support from people and that's a great thing.

I see this as natural progression from SI. First they hired a model who had slimmed down again, Crystal Renn. Then they picked a model, Robyn Lawley, who is considered plus-sized in the fashion industry. And now for the 2016 issue they cast someone who is genuinely plus-sized.

 

I think that SI is not going to promote Ashley as their token plus-size model. They probably want to send the message that she is an SI model just like any other model who was cast in the issue.

2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Ok my "anorexic" buddy  

 

I am  going to eat 2 BLTs with cheese (and I don't even like bacon) tonight as homage to you and Ashley  

+1 YASS   I'm about to go MACK on some Mac'N'Cheese whoever wants to come join me and Pink you may    

didn't know Iskra until now...her body is way better than Ashley but not pretty like her

her butt tho is waaay to much for me

Just now, jj3 said:

No one will deny that USA have an issue with food ... And sometimes i feel it's in the air to prohibit something with what we can't andle... It's like, i can't lose weight, so, let's prohibit the word FAT...

 

Not saying there's no such thing as being fat but the word is definitely being used loosely even when it is not accurate. It has also become a low-blow "go-to" word to use to insult a woman--- which is what a lot of people have been doing. 

Location # 1 - ?

Photographer: Ruven Afanaodor

Nina Agdal
Chrissy Teigen
Chanel Iman
Sofia Resing - Rookie #1
Erin Heatherton
  
Location #2  - Bora Bora
Photographer: Yu Tsai
Irina Shayk
Bo Krsmanovic - Rookie #2
Rose Bertram

Gigi Hadid
Hannah Davis

 
Location #3 -  Malta
Photographer: Ben Watts

Samantha Hoopes 

Kate Bock

Tanya Mityushina - Rookie #3

Kelly Rohrbach

Robyn Lawley

 

Location #4  : Model Search

Photographer: ?

Ebonee Davis

Kyra Santoro

Daniela Lopez osorio

Megan Williams

Nicole Meyer

 

Location #5 - Body paint

Photographer: ?

Unknown

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Unknown 

 

Location #6 -  Turks and Caicos

Photographer: James Macari

Lily Aldridge

Barbara Palvin - Rookie #4

Hailey Clauson

Hannah Ferguson

Emily Didonato

Ashley Graham - Rookie #5

 

Location #7 - Bodypaint: Grenada

Photographer: ?

Ronda Rousey

 

Location #8 - Hawaii

Photographer: Jack Guy

Hannah Davis

Emily Didonato

 

Location #9 - Bodypaint: Bahamas

Photographer: ?

Ronda Rousey

 

Models from 2015 missing
Emily Ratajkowski
Jessica Gomes
Ariel Meredith
Genevieve Morton
Sara Sampaio
Solveig

Ashley Smith

 

Confirmed models by SI

Emily Didonato

Erin Heatherton

Irina Shayk

Hannah Ferguson

Chanel Iman

Hannah Davis 

Gigi Hadid

Samantha Hoopes

Rose Bertram

Chrissy Teigen

Nina Agdal

Hailey Clauson

Barbara Palvin - Rookie

Sofia Resing - Rookie

Ashley Graham - Rookie

2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Not saying there's no such thing as being fat but the word is definitely being used loosely even when it is not accurate. It has also become a low-blow "go-to" word to use to insult a woman--- which is what a lot of people have been doing. 

 

I'm not insulting her ... But it's modeling world. The fact is Ashley is looking pretty fat ... But maybe for some others, she's pretty skinny  idk... So, let's prohibit the words, old, bald, skinny, ungracious, short, small, tall ... OR maybe should we just prohibit modeling world itself ... No models, no argues ...

4 minutes ago, Sanni said:

I see this as natural progression from SI. First they hired a model who had slimmed down again, Crystal Renn. Then they picked a model, Robyn Lawley, who is considered plus-sized in the fashion industry. And now for the 2016 issue they cast someone who is genuinely plus-sized.

 

I think that SI is not going to promote Ashley as their token plus-size model. They probably want to send the message that she is an SI model just like any other model who was cast in the issue.

 

I didn't think about that but it does seem like it, I think they did it the right way, me approves. And I do hope they don't promote Ashley as just their plus-size model, she has been working a long time and even if I'm not her biggest fan I think she deserves the same treatment as all other four rookies.

 

Also I mentioned this to Dave but could Chanel score the cover? There's so much talk about diversity these days an putting a WOC on the cover would be gold for SI and all kinds of good publicity for them, just imagine them having the first black woman in more than a decade on the cover and Ashley as ROTY would be just gold for them.

 

Also Ashley said she'll keep her followers updated to vote for her as ROTY (and she's winning that for sure) so we're voting the Model Search and ROTY this year.