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VS shouldn't have cut Erin off she's one of the best angel they have, if VS wanted to cut off an angel it should have been Lilly or Lindsay

They're pretty boring, & Lilly's walk is painful to watch in the VSFS, or they could have cut Adriana or Alessandra too is time for them to go & move on from VS. Now that Erin is gone, who's going to be the new VS angel? I hope is Palvin or Bregje.

About Miranda I knew her marriage wasn't going to last, I figure she was going to seperate from him once she got want she wanted which is Fame.

Erin did do a lot of catalogue work but (IMO) she didn't standout enough in a positive or negative way to the general public. She will be missed by the diehard fans rather than the causal ones if that make sense. This current roster has a good portion of the models that are strong and competent in one area of the job but weak and flawed in another area. Some models are good at selling the product verbally than others and other are better at selling it visually than others.
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IMO the less angels the better. The fact that Miranda and Erin are out makes the line-up much smaller and less crowded. VS needs to really focus on a few girls and let them shine versus having too many girls and not giving each enough attention.

 

Adriana, Alessandra, Doutzen, Candice, Behati, Lily, Lindsay, Karlie is a decent sized line-up. Elsa Hosk and Sara Sampaio as PINK angels is PERFECT.

 

They could probably trim it a little bit by cutting out Lindsay and maybe Lily. I think 6 angels would be the ideal number. I wish Lindsay wasn't a full on angel and instead just had a relationship like Lais, Toni, Bregje does with VS. Not official but works a lot for the company. She isn't special enough IMO to have full angel status.

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VS shouldn't have cut Erin off she's one of the best angel they have, if VS wanted to cut off an angel it should have been Lilly or Lindsay

They're pretty boring, & Lilly's walk is painful to watch in the VSFS, or they could have cut Adriana or Alessandra too is time for them to go & move on from VS. Now that Erin is gone, who's going to be the new VS angel? I hope is Palvin or Bregje.

About Miranda I knew her marriage wasn't going to last, I figure she was going to seperate from him once she got want she wanted which is Fame.

 

You can't cut out what helps the most, that would be bad for business. As long as they still look good, which they do, bring in sales, which they do, and bring in good/bad press and fans, which they also do they should be kept. It would be a terrible decision to let them go. Its one of those things if you don't have to do something, don't do it. Them being there longer than other current angels isn't a good reason at all to get rid of them, because thats  always going to happen as long as new angels are created, there is always going to be others who were there before others regardless. Its not like they are like erin who are "difficult" to work with, or whatever the real reason why they let her go. You don't let someone who is good for the company go

 

Does anyone know if lilly brings in good sales? I kinda don't get her appeal neither esp since her runway walk is so bad lol

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They could probably trim it a little bit by cutting out Lindsay and maybe Lily. I think 6 angels would be the ideal number. I wish Lindsay wasn't a full on angel and instead just had a relationship like Lais, Toni, Bregje does with VS. Not official but works a lot for the company. She isn't special enough IMO to have full angel status.

Lindsay is subtly sexy and the best spokes model out of them all. That's what I love about her.

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IMO the less angels the better. The fact that Miranda and Erin are out makes the line-up much smaller and less crowded. VS needs to really focus on a few girls and let them shine versus having too many girls and not giving each enough attention.

 

Adriana, Alessandra, Doutzen, Candice, Behati, Lily, Lindsay, Karlie is a decent sized line-up. Elsa Hosk and Sara Sampaio as PINK angels is PERFECT.

 

They could probably trim it a little bit by cutting out Lindsay and maybe Lily. I think 6 angels would be the ideal number. I wish Lindsay wasn't a full on angel and instead just had a relationship like Lais, Toni, Bregje does with VS. Not official but works a lot for the company. She isn't special enough IMO to have full angel status.

ummm...no! Lily and Lindsay do a good job for vs, they are great spokesmodels, and they always get positive reactions from fans. Karlie, on the other hand, has generated a lot of controversy this year, and I can't see how any good thing can come from this. I mean, she had a commercial last year, for sleepwear, with chanel and lindsay, and I remember there were as many likes as dislikes on youtube for that commercial, which never happens with vs commercials. That commercial isn't on their youtube channel anymore, along with other videos...(don't know why they remov some videos after a while, seems strange to me)... Anyway, I don't know if they 'need' to cut someone off, but if it's anyone that doesn's fit in, it's Karlie. Kinda feel sorry for her though, it's not her fault. As for Elsa Hosk, she will become an angel, sooner or later. And does anyone know what's up with jessica hart? Is she still with them, haven't seen her in a while...

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Did Karlie design the outfit? NO

 

Did Karlie chose to wear the outfit? NO.

 

It's a VS doing stupid stuff and Americans being too fucking sensitive controversy, it's not on Karlie at all. It's like saying models who wear fur in Fashion Shows are the ones to blame because some asshole murdered animals to make a coat.

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^ That was VS being a dumbass. Karlie had nothing to do it, but yes people did hold her responsible as well :(

That's the public been dumb not VS or Karlie

I disagree b/c VS did acted in a thoughtless manner and it was offensive. However I do think the media did make it a bigger deal than it needed to be. Perhaps as a way to direct the focus off the bigger issues that was occurring at that time :/

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I finally got to see the video, Candice reminds me of a young version of Cameron Diaz. I don't like that FB this year. So dissapointed that Doutzen didn't-got the fb she's been working with them since 2005, hope she gets it next year & hope for the FB to be beautiful.

PinkCouture if you put in the case, you make sense.

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'I feel guilty I make certain girls insecure': Victoria's Secret Angel Doutzen Kroes on how modeling perpetuates beauty ideals

Victoria's Secret Angel Doutzen Kroes has admitted how her job can have detrimental effects on a young woman's self-esteem. 'Sometimes it makes me feel guilty now that I am in this profession that makes certain girls insecure,' the 28-year-old told the New York Post. She also insisted that the lingerie images don't always reflect real life, adding: 'I always say, I don’t look like the picture . . . If you put me in bad light with no hair and makeup, it’s not good. 'I wake up sometimes like, this is not what I see when I look at the magazine, who is this visitor in the bathroom?' she admitted.

The model had been commenting on how happy she was that Governor Cuomo signed new legislation into law last week, which will see child labor protections extended to models under the age of 18 for the first time. In an industry that viciously resists change, the law was a major accomplishment for The Model Alliance, a non-profit organization which has been advocating for model rights since its launch in February 2012. The new law mandates that fashion brands and magazines hire a responsible chaperon for models under the age of 16, as well as a teacher and a dedicated space for instruction under its education requirement.

Many designers and fashion magazines will most likely be discouraged from using extremely young models in their shows, campaigns and pages because of these requirements, which could see the face of modeling industry change from young adolescents to young women - which Miss Kroes hopes will have a positive effect on body ideals. James Scully, casting director for some of the world’s biggest designers, like Tom Ford and Carolina Herrera, explained: 'The passage of this bill will significantly curb the influx of underage models into the industry, which has unfortunately become the norm.' Most models begin their career around the age of 13, often sacrificing their education, health and financial security to pursue a career in a previously unregulated industry. 'Model rights have long been trivialized and dismissed,' said Senate Labor Committee Chairwoman Diane Savino at a press conference held at designer Nicole Miller's SoHo store last week. 'By making this legislation the law in New York, we have brought an end to the rampant exploitation and sexual abuse of child models by giving child models the critical protections they’ve been denied for too long,' she said.

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I think her words got a bit twisted... only a bit, cause that's not the first time Doutzen said something like that. In one of the Fashion TV Models Talk videos, around f/w 2006 season I think she said she feels guilty for being so beautiful or something equally stupid.

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One of the things I like about Doutzen is that she is not arrogant at all. She certainly could afford to more than most of the arrogant people out there because there is not much anyone could say about her due to her success in modelling. I don't think I've ever come across someone saying that she is ugly and meaning it whereas most celebrities have people saying that about them. She is humble almost to a fault! Her documentary a few years back was a little depressing. It's like you are young and beautiful, enjoy it and don't feel guilty! :D

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