No you didn't. Where did you say you think she may improve in that area in your last post? Where did you say that?

"she's not so talented at the moment ( it may change with experience)"

That's where I said it. I also said that I will be happy if she does some good films, and it will regain my interest.

And all the other stuff you said against me, I'm not going to spend ages responding because you're ruining the thread with this rant. It might have seemed to you that I was " jealous" in what I said, but you didn't read hard enough or simply misunderstood, because I'm not! You don't know me, so don't judge me like you do. I have friends that are models. Do I hate them? No!! I'm close with Pixie Lott. Do I hate her for having a number 1 single? No!!

I didn't post to annoy you, or to be personally insulted by such a mentality as you are presenting. I just wanted to voice my opinion like everyone else. I did so in a civil way, and you're representing yourself very, very badly.

My basic point was that I'm maybe going off Megan because I've learnt the beauty I admired is not natural and that she has not done anything since I became a fan to keep me one. It's called a personal opinion, and I said that I was hoping she would do a good film to get my interest again. End of. And I hope this all gets deleted, because it's ridiculous off-topic now,

QQ more - People your tears make baby jesus cry and me very happy... continue on.

It doesn't come down to sensitivity it comes down to common courtsey. Also you didn't say not very smart, you said dumb, which can be construed as something completely different.

You know what the best part of all this is... My point was made in an actual interview... my point on Megan's intelligence that is... And because that was from a magazine, or a reputable website, (you know not thesuperficial, perezhilton or justjared) that makes it ok, however if I or anyone else states an opinion based on said interview, or the numerous other interviews where she says rather outrageous things... we have people jumping down our throats. That right there people is the brilliance that is Megan Foxs thread. Woot Woot!

It doesn't come down to sensitivity it comes down to common courtsey. Also you didn't say not very smart, you said dumb, which can be construed as something completely different.

True, but manners aren't any set of defined laws, they are completely subjective. I can't be responsible for everything I say that might hurt one person's feelings. I'm sorry if she feels bad, but oh well. She'll get over it if she's truly devastated.

You know what the best part of all this is... My point was made in an actual interview... my point on Megan's intelligence that is... And because that was from a magazine, or a reputable website, (you know not thesuperficial, perezhilton or justjared) that makes it ok, however if I or anyone else states an opinion based on said interview, or the numerous other interviews where she says rather outrageous things... we have people jumping down our throats. That right there people is the brilliance that is Megan Foxs thread. Woot Woot!

Who said websites like those make it okay? Seriously the media is about genuine as press-on nails. Don't believe everything you hear.

It doesn't come down to sensitivity it comes down to common courtsey. Also you didn't say not very smart, you said dumb, which can be construed as something completely different.

True, but manners aren't any set of defined laws, they are completely subjective. I can't be responsible for everything I say that might hurt one person's feelings. I'm sorry if she feels bad, but oh well. She'll get over it if she's truly devastated.

No manners are not subjective, and they are rather defined world wide. And yes you are responsible for everything you say, and perhaps you should stop and consider what you're saying and how people might read it before you open your mouth and respond. Seriously you need to realize that one of the rules on this forum is that personal attacks are not allowed, and that actual bashing is not either.

My basic point was that I'm maybe going off Megan because I've learnt the beauty I admired is not natural and that she has not done anything since I became a fan to keep me one. It's called a personal opinion, and I said that I was hoping she would do a good film to get my interest again. End of. And I hope this all gets deleted, because it's ridiculous off-topic now,

This is your basic point? Okay then what do you define as "natural beauty"? I mean all the women in this forum showcased, or at least around 90% of them, have a decent amount of wealth and or are showcased wearing makeup, expensive hairstyles, pricey clothes, and valuable accessories. And that isn't "natural" in the slightest. And it's also bought with a lot of money. So if that is your reasoning for not approving of Megan, then you might as well not approve of everyone else.

It doesn't come down to sensitivity it comes down to common courtsey. Also you didn't say not very smart, you said dumb, which can be construed as something completely different.

True, but manners aren't any set of defined laws, they are completely subjective. I can't be responsible for everything I say that might hurt one person's feelings. I'm sorry if she feels bad, but oh well. She'll get over it if she's truly devastated.

No manners are not subjective, and they are rather defined world wide. And yes you are responsible for everything you say, and perhaps you should stop and consider what you're saying and how people might read it before you open your mouth and respond. Seriously you need to realize that one of the rules on this forum is that personal attacks are not allowed, and that actual bashing is not either.

Hahahahaha! Manners are defined? Are you kidding me?

In sociology, manners are the unenforced standards of conduct which show the actor to be cultured, polite, and refined. They are like laws in that they codify or set a standard for human behavior, but they are unlike laws in that there is no formal system for punishing transgressions, other than social disapproval.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manners

Cultures define manners in different ways. Seriously what are you talking about? Show me one genuine example of where manners are book defined as a law worldwide.

Really what would you like me to say to make you feel better? I mean what do you want to hear from me right now? I said I was sorry. I said I would keep what I say in mind more often during the future because people may be more sensitive here. Seriously what do you want?

It doesn't come down to sensitivity it comes down to common courtsey. Also you didn't say not very smart, you said dumb, which can be construed as something completely different.

True, but manners aren't any set of defined laws, they are completely subjective. I can't be responsible for everything I say that might hurt one person's feelings. I'm sorry if she feels bad, but oh well. She'll get over it if she's truly devastated.

No manners are not subjective, and they are rather defined world wide. And yes you are responsible for everything you say, and perhaps you should stop and consider what you're saying and how people might read it before you open your mouth and respond. Seriously you need to realize that one of the rules on this forum is that personal attacks are not allowed, and that actual bashing is not either.

Hahahahaha! Manners are defined? Are you kidding me?

In sociology, manners are the unenforced standards of conduct which show the actor to be cultured, polite, and refined. They are like laws in that they codify or set a standard for human behavior, but they are unlike laws in that there is no formal system for punishing transgressions, other than social disapproval.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manners

Cultures define manners in different ways. Seriously what are you talking about? Show me one genuine example of where manners are book defined as a law worldwide.

Really what would you like me to say to make you feel better? I mean what do you want to hear from me right now? I said I was sorry. I said I would keep what I say in mind more often during the future because people may be more sensitive here. Seriously what do you want?

Giving definition to something does not mean there has to be punishment for breaking that definition. As you said there is social disaproval for breaking free of the mold that society has given manners and generalized codes of conduct. The fact is I don't think it matters where in the world you're from what you said to Stamoholic was rude, biased and uncalled for.

Oh as for the manners defined in a book, go to any finishing school, or polishing school and there are defined codes of conduct and what is acceptable in polite company, regardless of where in the world you are. Yes certian societies and cultures do have slightly redefined rules, but the basis is the same regardless of where you are.

First off I didn't realize '07 to '09 consituted as 5-10 years, however I'm not going to comment on your apparent lack of mathematical skills and I believe if you go ever every post I've ever made I didn't say I didn't find her entertaining, god when people put their foot in their mouth continuously how can you not help but be entertained. Oh, and evaluating everything she says, sweetie that's not me... that's the media, that's their job and that's Hollywood baby. I don't particularily care if you think I'm right, I don't need validation from you people. As for you allegedly not caring about what I have to say I believe I'm going to disagree, you felt the need to respond after all that shows some type of caring.

Believe me, my mathematical skills are above yours(I don't take advanced math classes because I suck at it...). I'm suprised tho that you can't read that well. I said that in 5, maybe 10 years you're still posting here(so that would means that in 2014, maybe even 2019, you're still bashing her). I never mentioned the time between you joining this site and now.

And yes bringing up controversial points makes me feel better, want to know why? Because all your responses and your fanatical devotion to a woman that none of you know brings me great humor.

Funny that you can't see how devoted you're. You keep responding to posts on a women(that you don't know either) you hate. You're just the same as we are.

This isn't a discussion anymore, you're just looking for a fight(which is pretty sad btw).

And please, you are evaluating everything she does. You read everything about her and think off something bad to say about her. And if you aren't evaluating her, then you need to stop copying the media and taking over their opinions.

Also, the reason I'm responding to this is because you made it personal.

Giving definition to something does not mean there has to be punishment for breaking that definition. As you said there is social disaproval for breaking free of the mold that society has given manners and generalized codes of conduct. The fact is I don't think it matters where in the world you're from what you said to Stamoholic was rude, biased and uncalled for.

Oh as for the manners defined in a book, go to any finishing school, or polishing school and there are defined codes of conduct and what is acceptable in polite company, regardless of where in the world you are. Yes certian societies and cultures do have slightly redefined rules, but the basis is the same regardless of where you are.

Regardless, the point still stands. There are not any factual definitions for manners anywhere. Only cultural based. And that is subjective. I never said you couldn't break a subjective definition, which what manners are. And if you believe what I said to the other poster is rude, then fine. That is your angle. But it's purely your opinion and I really don't care about it.

It doesn't matter what any finishing school or polishing school says. If anything it's only going to amplify what I already said: manners are subjective to cultural upbringings. And that is a fact.

First off I didn't realize '07 to '09 consituted as 5-10 years, however I'm not going to comment on your apparent lack of mathematical skills and I believe if you go ever every post I've ever made I didn't say I didn't find her entertaining, god when people put their foot in their mouth continuously how can you not help but be entertained. Oh, and evaluating everything she says, sweetie that's not me... that's the media, that's their job and that's Hollywood baby. I don't particularily care if you think I'm right, I don't need validation from you people. As for you allegedly not caring about what I have to say I believe I'm going to disagree, you felt the need to respond after all that shows some type of caring.

Believe me, my mathematical skills are above yours(I don't take advanced math classes because I suck at it...). I'm suprised tho that you can't read that well. I said that in 5, maybe 10 years you're still posting here(so that would means that in 2014, maybe even 2019, you're still bashing her). I never mentioned the time between you joining this site and now.

And yes bringing up controversial points makes me feel better, want to know why? Because all your responses and your fanatical devotion to a woman that none of you know brings me great humor.

Funny that you can't see how devoted you're. You keep responding to posts on a women(that you don't know either) you hate. You're just the same as we are.

This isn't a discussion anymore, you're just looking for a fight(which is pretty sad btw).

And please, you are evaluating everything she does. You read everything about her and think off something bad to say about her. And if you aren't evaluating her, then you need to stop copying the media and taking over their opinions.

Also, the reason I'm responding to this is because you made it personal.

Perhaps you should look at what you wrote before making rather bold statements about my mathematical skills, or my ability to read the english language. I would either say english isn't your first language, or I would peg you around a 7th or 8th grader when it comes to writing. Stating that I was still posting here in past tense insinuated that I had been around for that long, not that I would be around for that in the future.

And no, again I'll reitorate I am not over analyzing everything she does, I happen to read some celebrity blogs which do not gear towards any specific person and are in fact quite random, posting news as it happens, or as they come across it. As for looking for a fight, no my remarks about megan were nothing more then a discussion or a debate discussing my personal opinions, and why I felt the way I did. The only real conflict is coming from the disaparing and rude remarks made to Stamoholic when she politely expressed her own opinion and bluestars jumped down her throat.

Giving definition to something does not mean there has to be punishment for breaking that definition. As you said there is social disaproval for breaking free of the mold that society has given manners and generalized codes of conduct. The fact is I don't think it matters where in the world you're from what you said to Stamoholic was rude, biased and uncalled for.

Oh as for the manners defined in a book, go to any finishing school, or polishing school and there are defined codes of conduct and what is acceptable in polite company, regardless of where in the world you are. Yes certian societies and cultures do have slightly redefined rules, but the basis is the same regardless of where you are.

Regardless, the point still stands. There are not any factual definitions for manners anywhere. Only cultural based. And that is subjective. I never said you couldn't break a subjective definition, which what manners are. And if you believe what I said to the other poster is rude, then fine. That is your angle. But it's purely your opinion and I really don't care about it.

It doesn't matter what any finishing school or polishing school says. If anything it's only going to amplify what I already said: manners are subjective to cultural upbringings. And that is a fact.

Cultures around the world send their children to those finishing schools, and while some things are subjective to the culture such as spitting into the hand before shaking being considered polite in one society, calling someone dumb or stupid is not appropriate in any culture that I know of.. Perhaps you can disclose which society or culture you're from and that might clarify why you wouldn't consider it rude. However you're profile says you're from California and I wasn't aware that their manners had declined to such an extent.

Giving definition to something does not mean there has to be punishment for breaking that definition. As you said there is social disaproval for breaking free of the mold that society has given manners and generalized codes of conduct. The fact is I don't think it matters where in the world you're from what you said to Stamoholic was rude, biased and uncalled for.

Oh as for the manners defined in a book, go to any finishing school, or polishing school and there are defined codes of conduct and what is acceptable in polite company, regardless of where in the world you are. Yes certian societies and cultures do have slightly redefined rules, but the basis is the same regardless of where you are.

Regardless, the point still stands. There are not any factual definitions for manners anywhere. Only cultural based. And that is subjective. I never said you couldn't break a subjective definition, which what manners are. And if you believe what I said to the other poster is rude, then fine. That is your angle. But it's purely your opinion and I really don't care about it.

It doesn't matter what any finishing school or polishing school says. If anything it's only going to amplify what I already said: manners are subjective to cultural upbringings. And that is a fact.

Cultures around the world send their children to those finishing schools, and while some things are subjective to the culture such as spitting into the hand before shaking being considered polite in one society, calling someone dumb or stupid is not appropriate in any culture that I know of.. Perhaps you can disclose which society or culture you're from and that might clarify why you wouldn't consider it rude. However you're profile says you're from California and I wasn't aware that their manners had declined to such an extent.

Well I didn't call anyone dumb so I don't know why you're asking me that question. I may have said a certain statement that I encountered may have not seemed wise or smart to me and I may have said it came off as "dumb" to me, but it doesn't mean that the person I'm quoting has low intelligence. And people sending their children to schools to blend in a certain way within society still doesn't mean that there is a defined "rule" of acting a certain way. It's like aesthetics are towards the art world. There is no defined rule for what is acceptable, but there is a consensus of what is preferred in certain mediums.

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