crazy instagram fans starting to insult Ed on his instagram account because Josephine got too much this year in 3..2..1..

1 minute ago, MV007 said:

 

Of course ratings will go down. Ratings have been declining for everything. I wouldn't read too much into it unless they decline dramatically. When NFL football has declining ratings then no one is immune. 

Yes ratings did go down for everything, but even with that in mind, VS rating last year were appallingly low, it wasn't just the fact that people watch less tv. 

I think that their customer data tells all. They had to cut swimwear and they lost so much customers who are young adults, or adult women. They gained customers for PINK, so pretty much preteens, so that is what they are focusing on. 

4 minutes ago, toodarnhot said:

But Elsa and Sara's outfits are both entirely black and all lacey/romantic imo.  I get what they were trying to do but I don't think they managed to make them very distinctive from each other. 

 

Where do you suppose Martha's black outfit belongs? 

Trueee but I guess we'll have to wait and see! I think it was such a stupid idea that VS would have Secret Angel and Dark Angel back to back next to each other in the segment order...literally everyone will probably think it's just a really long segment  and Martha's is in Dark Angel, they showed the sketch and her wings are apparently the biggest in the show.

I think they only cut mainline swim but kept swim for PINK...

See Martha and Elsa's outfits look so similar to me and yet are in different segments.  

4 minutes ago, Kevork89 said:

Jo confirmed her opening. Obviously MR.

I am glad for her, she has great body, but she looks really awful here.

1 minute ago, PinkCouture said:

I think they only cut mainline swim but kept swim for PINK...

They did. They had a swim trip a week or so ago with Brooke, Zuri and Grace and another girl I can't remember. A sales girl told me this summer Pink was keeping swim and that's why it wasn't included in the sales.  

I was definitely surprised when they stopped mainline swim. Was there a reason?

1 minute ago, unali said:

I am glad for her, she has great body, but she looks really awful here.

Idk if it's her makeup but she looks like she aged 20+ years 

Behati's opening werent the worst imo, Ale in 2009 was worst.

2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

I think they only cut mainline swim but kept swim for PINK...

Yes, because PINK is only thing that sells, and their customer base is much much younger than it was years ago. Italian brands are expanding to USA next year, so I see them "grabbing" those customers.

1 minute ago, Kevork89 said:

I was definitely surprised when they stopped mainline swim. Was there a reason?

Very low sales apparently 

vs pink swim is back no? (last pics with grace)

I think Ale did great with her opening considering that v shaped runway. I don't think even Gisele would save it from disaster. 

Do you guys think VS will drop some angels next year? I can see Lily and Romee (and maybe Ale) being cutted out...

Is this saylor drama still a thing because they seem okay here?

 

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I think Lilly, Ale, Martha, Sara, Lais and maybe Stella are all gone next year.

i don't want to be right..but they look alike

 

5 minutes ago, AngelAshley94 said:

Very low sales apparently 

 

The suits were also not very on trend for the season

2 minutes ago, Rca said:

Do you guys think VS will drop some angels next year? I can see Lily and Romee (and maybe Ale) being cutted out...

I was thinking Lily too idk about Romee but they haven't been using her as much as did when she first became an Angel last year but who knows?