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A new group photo from the movie has been released by USA Today.

RIP Graham Taylor

Milla Jovovich [9] Blake Lively [9]

Doutzen Kroes [1]Candice Swanepoel [3]

If we were going to do it, that would be the fairest way. With regard to locating pictures, thread size shouldn't be too big a hindrance. It might be an issue if the search function is busted or if people neglect to include relevant information in their posts, but I don't know if I could see a subforum doing much to solve either of those things.

It certainly wasn't a total bust. When you take the best bits, rearrange them and fill in a few blanks, you can piece together a classic in your head. Depending on how generous you're feeling at the time, of course. I would even say that the acting was generally of a decent standard. Affleck acquitted himself surprisingly well with Cavill mostly holding his own too, albeit in an underutilised part. Irons, Fishburne and Hunter were all fun in the limited roles allowed for them. Even the much maligned Eisenberg probably delivered what they wanted in terms of performance, the problem was that he was woefully miscast and the character was so appallingly conceived. I've a feeling that Affleck and Johns will be calling the shots for Justice League, with Snyder very much reined in and Goyer presumably nowhere in sight. Whether or not the DCEU is salvageable is still up in the air, though. By the end of Man of Steel, they'd created a good foundation for the continuity, with DC openly stating that the emergence of Superman would lead to other superheroes gradually revealing themselves. Somewhere along the way, they did a complete about face and started trying to achieve in two movies what Marvel did in a dozen.

I was particularly fond of the scenes in which Clark flew for the first time and broke the sound barrier. Faora was another highlight for me, far too little Antje Traue on our screens these days in my opinion. The sad thing is, they could have easily produced a decent Man of Steel 2 using the nucleus of BvS's 'false god' storyline, a Luthor with clearer motivations and a little more thought put into how he controlled proceedings from behind the scenes. They could have ended it with a mid-credits Batman teaser, setting up Bruce's mistrust of Superman.

My feeling is that Snyder plundered a lot of the visual cues from Frank Miller's Dark Knight and various other bits of the source material, but without ever really grasping the point of the stories or how it would all mesh together. The end product was more like a number of trailers laid out one after another than a single, coherent piece. I'm still pulling for them to get it right with Wonder Woman, and from what we know so far, it does finally look like the story of a DCEU movie will be set up to serve its lead character, instead of the other way around. However, given their recent track record, I'll probably be going into it with some trepidation. How about you?

Great, thanks for letting me know.

Also, just in case anyone missed it, the humorous bit shown to fans at San Diego Comic-Con as a tongue-in-cheek explanation of why Thor and Hulk were missing in action for Captain America: Civil War.

This supposedly 'leaked promo art' has been doing the rounds on movie sites for a while.

All our subforums were started before I got here, but my understanding is that Petra's was created because she was an honorary member and a great supporter of chilaX, the forum that preceded BZ. For the others, it was most likely on the strength of popularity and traffic. With the search function back in business, I personally don't think the size of any given thread matters too much. It's only an issue if people forget or neglect to include the relevant information when posting pics.

To tell the truth, it was a struggle to narrow it down to just three.

What Kiki said. There's a chance we might re-evaluate our existing subforums at some point in the future, but it's unlikely that we'll be elevating anyone new to subforum status. If we started doing it for one or two, however deserving they may be, the arguments would be neverending. Why Candice, why not Elsa, what about Barbara and so on.

We can add yet another name to the cast in Sterling K. Brown, of American Crime Story (which I haven't seen) fame. He'll be playing a character named N’Jobu, a figure from T'Challa's past.

I find that in large-scale crossover pieces like this, the opposing ideologies of characters is almost always the main source of fun. Unfortunately, Batman and Superman weren't contrasting figures, just slightly different shades of grey. Saying that, Batman's arc could still have felt really moving if Snyder had spent more time on the conflict between his two leads. An embittered, broken Wayne pushed over the edge by Jason Todd’s death, only to have his soul saved by an alien with more humanity than him is a beautiful concept, and one that should really have been a slam dunk. Wonder Woman's big introduction was something of a non-event in the end. Even her inclusion felt a bit superficial, like they were trying too hard to play catch-up with Marvel. Luthor operates mostly as a stopgap for plotholes, magically figuring out alien technology, Superman's entire backstory and genetic engineering as and when the script calls for it.

I say we build it, and make the Fashion Spot pay for it. Seriously though, there's been such an explosion of political posts in GenTalk as of late that we seem to have ended up with multiple threads essentially serving the same purpose. So it does feel like we're getting to the point where the content might need to be compartmentalised in some way. We'd have to weigh up all the pros and cons before making a decision one way or the other though, of course.

My issue with it wasn't so much that he killed people, because a story focussing on Wayne's guilt and his descent into antihero territory could have been interesting. It was more that it happened as this throwaway thing, without any mention of what killing actually means to Batman. If you're going to play fast and loose with one of the guy's defining characteristics, I'd expect to see it justified in some way or at the very least discussed. Snyder was just so far off-base with that. I’ve read rumours that the standalone Batman film might cover the Red Hood storyline, but I’m at a loss as to how it would be handled because really, there’s nothing separating this Batman from the way the Red Hood operates at this point.

Righto, leave it with me and I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it.

In principle, it's not a bad idea. As a member of staff, I've seen some very heated debates about models, movies, music and sports that would rival any of the political discussions that go on here, but as you say, we have specific areas for all those things. At very least, it's a conversation worth having.

I wasn't aware of that issue, is it still happening?

Yeah, I think really looking into the issues is getting much more difficult these days. If you don't keep up with the news you're uninformed and if you do you're misinformed. It's difficult to view a lot of journalism now as anything other than opinion masquerading as 'discussion' pieces, where the point isn't really to discuss but to plant a message in enough different places to be easily remembered. Complicated issues are reduced to simplified soundbites, which actually makes discussion redundant, because it nearly always degenerates into a choice of 'with us or against us'.

The Daily Mail is a tabloid and not a very good one, it specialises in faux outrage, elitism and scaremongering. To your point though, from what I can tell, our foreign aid doesn't seem to be used very effectively, but with much of it going on business interests rather than helping people genuinely in need, it probably pays for itself and more. There'd be no reason for a Tory government not to cut it otherwise.

I hereby declare the voting officially closed. Once again, to all who took part, thanks ever so much. I'll start posting the results in the next couple of days.

No problem, thanks for voting!