8 minutes ago, horus said:

i love the way people know about everything 

 

And I don't love how you never actually contribute to any conversation except all you do is complain about other people's opinions.

i don't need to contribute since you guys already know everything!

Vanessa Paradis defending Johnny:

Schemer clearly doesn't understand how Hollywood works. Depp is a HUGE player, with a lot of big people on his side. It would not be unsurprising if Amber finds herself blacklisted. Even if people aren't doing it to support Johnny directly, getting that close to that controversy and drama is enough to have people shy away from or reconsider including her in projects. Particularly since Amber isn't that established as an actress. 

 

And women aren't "attracted to bad boys." We're literally societally conditioned and taught that men mistreating us is a display of affection. Girls in elementary school are told that boys pulling their hair and calling them names is because they like them, and that behaviour is continually excused and taught. "Boys will be boys!"

 

It's so easy to say someone should report it right away when you're outside of the situation. There are SO many reasons that a person doesn't feel comfortable or safe coming forward- they could be scared of their abuser, they're afraid no one will believe them, their reputation will be dragged through the mud. Not to mention, this is a person that they believes loves them, and outside of the abuse, is probably constantly reinforcing that idea- telling them they'll change or do better, and showering them in affection. 

 

It's impossible to say if he is or isn't guilty with the information that's been released at this point, but the media bias is absolutely disgusting. Attacking Amber's sexuality, and dragging her through the mud, while posts about Depp are "Eligible Bachelor Once Again!" is so disturbing. 

 

 

3 hours ago, frenchkiki said:

 

This will probably extremely hurt Amber's career & I am pretty sure her reputation is probably ruined for good. It's remarkable how once again people -medias- jum on the bandwagon of the potential offender. Depp is going to be like Sean Penn or Woody Allen or Polanski: get away with it all in the end.

 

It will affect Amber's career negatively but to what degree, who knows  As for Johnny's career it probably won't affect it much. I doubt it would really stick.

I am pretty sure she is going to lose jobs/movies and such. She is going to be blacklisted.

 

41 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

Vanessa Paradis defending Johnny:

Vanessa is an Idiot -and it's a fan talking here- she should shut the fuck up.

 

39 minutes ago, toodarnhot said:

Schemer clearly doesn't understand how Hollywood works. Depp is a HUGE player, with a lot of big people on his side. It would not be unsurprising if Amber finds herself blacklisted. Even if people aren't doing it to support Johnny directly, getting that close to that controversy and drama is enough to have people shy away from or reconsider including her in projects. Particularly since Amber isn't that established as an actress. 

 

And women aren't "attracted to bad boys." We're literally societally conditioned and taught that men mistreating us is a display of affection. Girls in elementary school are told that boys pulling their hair and calling them names is because they like them, and that behaviour is continually excused and taught. "Boys will be boys!"

 

It's so easy to say someone should report it right away when you're outside of the situation. There are SO many reasons that a person doesn't feel comfortable or safe coming forward- they could be scared of their abuser, they're afraid no one will believe them, their reputation will be dragged through the mud. Not to mention, this is a person that they believes loves them, and outside of the abuse, is probably constantly reinforcing that idea- telling them they'll change or do better, and showering them in affection. 

 

It's impossible to say if he is or isn't guilty with the information that's been released at this point, but the media bias is absolutely disgusting. Attacking Amber's sexuality, and dragging her through the mud, while posts about Depp are "Eligible Bachelor Once Again!" is so disturbing. 

 

 

+ 1 million!

 

58 minutes ago, horus said:

i don't need to contribute since you guys already know everything!

We should ask Jon Snow then?

 

 

In unrelated celebrity news, Taylor Swift and Calvin Harris are over. Amicable split although some blind gossip sites hint that he cheated on her.

Really sucks, she seemed so happy to be in relationship.

2 hours ago, toodarnhot said:

.And women aren't "attracted to bad boys." We're literally societally conditioned and taught that men mistreating us is a display of affection. Girls in elementary school are told that boys pulling their hair and calling them names is because they like them, and that behaviour is continually excused and taught. "Boys will be boys!"

 

Also remember what Beauty and The Beast has taught us, if you are patient and love an abusive douchebag long enough you could change him for the better

2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said:

 

Also remember what Beauty and The Beast has taught us, if you are patient and love an abusive douchebag long enough you could change him for the better

Beauty and the Beast, and literally every other love story featuring the broody asshole with a daaaarrrkkk mysterious past. But fear not ladies, we can fix him! 

Amber Heard Alleges Johnny Depp Tried To Suffocate Her As More Photos Surface

http://uproxx.com/news/johnny-depp-amber-heard-photos-suffocate/

 

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2 hours ago, Schemer said:

In unrelated celebrity news, Taylor Swift and Calvin Harris are over. Amicable split although some blind gossip sites hint that he cheated on her.

Really sucks, she seemed so happy to be in relationship.

 

I am sure the boatload of money she will make from the song about him will ease the heartbreak and compensate...

3 minutes ago, toodarnhot said:

Beauty and the Beast, and literally every other love story featuring the broody asshole with a daaaarrrkkk mysterious past. But fear not ladies, we can fix him! 

 

As much as I love fairy tales most of them don't send an empowering and positive message to girls

3 hours ago, toodarnhot said:

Schemer clearly doesn't understand how Hollywood works. Depp is a HUGE player, with a lot of big people on his side. It would not be unsurprising if Amber finds herself blacklisted. Even if people aren't doing it to support Johnny directly, getting that close to that controversy and drama is enough to have people shy away from or reconsider including her in projects. Particularly since Amber isn't that established as an actress. 

 

And women aren't "attracted to bad boys." We're literally societally conditioned and taught that men mistreating us is a display of affection. Girls in elementary school are told that boys pulling their hair and calling them names is because they like them, and that behaviour is continually excused and taught. "Boys will be boys!"

 

It's so easy to say someone should report it right away when you're outside of the situation. There are SO many reasons that a person doesn't feel comfortable or safe coming forward- they could be scared of their abuser, they're afraid no one will believe them, their reputation will be dragged through the mud. Not to mention, this is a person that they believes loves them, and outside of the abuse, is probably constantly reinforcing that idea- telling them they'll change or do better, and showering them in affection. 

 

It's impossible to say if he is or isn't guilty with the information that's been released at this point, but the media bias is absolutely disgusting. Attacking Amber's sexuality, and dragging her through the mud, while posts about Depp are "Eligible Bachelor Once Again!" is so disturbing. 

 

 

Took the words right out of my mouth.

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I also have to shake my head at people saying men have it worse in abuse and rape cases than women do, and its always coming from a man.  

 

I wish guys could walk in the shoes of a woman for a day. It's not like we can walk around without a care in the world. We have to constantly be on the lookout, everytime we are walking alone at night, down the street, somewhere. Constantly on guard. Afraid of the possibility of being hollered at and heckled, attacked or raped because those things happen in an instant, all the time.  

Also the comparison of reporting a robbery after six months vs reporting an abuse or rape after the fact is such a ridiculous argument. The repercussions of the two events are utterly incomparable. No one gets called a dirty lying whore while receiving death threats when they report a theft.  

16 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:

According to PEOPLE magazine those pictures are from december 2015 ...

More:http://www.people.com/article/amber-heard-new-photos-alleged-abuse-johnny-depp

 

She is a lot less flattering with no makeup, no tan, and bad lighting

Because her attractiveness to you is what's important here. 

The woman's attractiveness level is more important than her beat face right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, katchitup said:

Well there is always a possibility they are faked, but I highly doubt it. They haven't come out denying those text messages yet. 

 

Well you should report it right away but I know that isn't always the case, and women often feel ashamed or scared and don't want to report it. It's easy to say "why don't you just leave him" "why don't you just report it" But theres so much more than that. It would be best to report it right away, but that is not always the easiest thing to do. 

 

 

What I hate is people are so willing to say shes a gold digger and shes this and that, yet they have to have serious hardcore evidence that Johnny abused her even though there is documents, witnesses, texts, pictures, etc. It just shows how society treats women who come forward. It takes more evidence to prove Johnny beat her, but they need no evidence that Amber is an awful human being/gold digger. 

 

 

I wouldn't personally call her a gold digger because we don't know the full story, but as far as needing more proof of Depp being an abuser, that's how it should be. Abusing your spouse is a crime, gold digging isn't. Innocent until proven guilty. If she really is faking the whole thing though, she really is scum.  And same should be said for Depp. As far as their reputations at this point they should both be given benefit of the doubt because we don't know enough. The difference is that Depp's reputation is already tainted to a degree after this regardless of innocence or guilt, or whether Heard presses charges or not. If some new evidence came out and Heard were found to be 100% truthful on the matter, we would feel sorry for her and think it is unfortunate to be in that position. There's no comparable scenario where Depp comes out looking spotless. As hard as it will be to provide evidence that he did it it would be infinitely harder to provide evidence that he never laid a finger on her. If Heard admitted tomorrow that it was a scheme to get money from Depp, and that she punched herself in the face there would still be people that say "Depp must've paid her under the table to keep it hush hush" or "she just feels bad about ruining his reputation so she is pulling back". Just look at how the Duke lacrosse team still gets a bad rap from some people

 

Here's what I think is a good bit from Bill Burr on the topic: (although I don't know if it's plausible that no info gets out about a celebrity being tried, like for instance if Heard had come out in public with a black eye paparazzi would be on that immediately...but at the same time that doesn't mean it should be published in all papers before a conviction) 

 

7 hours ago, PinkCouture said:

I am sure the boatload of money she will make from the song about him will ease the heartbreak and compensate...

 

Cliche answer. I expected better from you.

Just because she's rich, she doesn't deserve to be happy? OK.

 

 

6 hours ago, katchitup said:

I also have to shake my head at people saying men have it worse in abuse and rape cases than women do, and its always coming from a man.  

 

You can shake all you want, but the fact remains that when a man talks about the abuse he gets laughed at. And your attitude or "rolling eyes" confirms it.

I bet you're one of those people who believe men can't be raped. SMH

 

 

6 hours ago, katchitup said:

I wish guys could walk in the shoes of a woman for a day. It's not like we can walk around without a care in the world. We have to constantly be on the lookout, everytime we are walking alone at night, down the street, somewhere. Constantly on guard. Afraid of the possibility of being hollered at and heckled, attacked or raped because those things happen in an instant, all the time.  

 

Easy now. You make it sound like it's a war zone out there. Like you're in Fallujah or something.