General Discussion

[laeteita]

17 minutes ago, lucyford said:

That’s what I said, that Adriana herself kept saying she wanted to do it more years than she did. That’s why I think VS may have ended her contract, because for years she said she wanted to be there as long as she could. Whether she lied in her Daily Front Row interview about knowing a year in advance, I don’t know. Either she lied there or 4 months before her last show which you are referring to. I’m honetly not sure what she said 4 months before the show tho. If you are referring to her W mag interview, she prob had to lie about VS when they asked her as it wasn’t ready to be announced.

 

I wasn’t saying it was a money issue either. But Adriana’s contract was prob worth more than the 4 new angels combined. And the truth is Adriana is getting older and I’m not sure she fits the cute/teenage vibes VS is targeting these days. 

So you’re taking consider every possibilities including her being liar but somehow you’re ignoring the fact that it might because something both side couldn’t help with such as had to cancelling the show.WHY?

 

btw age couldn’t be the issue bc no angel would compete with her on looking young. 

[lucyford]

17 minutes ago, laeteita said:

So you’re taking consider every possibilities including her being liar but somehow you’re ignoring the fact that it might because something both side couldn’t help with such as had to cancelling the show.WHY?

 

btw age couldn’t be the issue bc no angel would compete with her on looking young. 

Well the two interviews do not add up.. that’s just the truth. I was just under the impression VS let her go because she said she knew a year in advance and was emotional all year about it. But it is possible she decided to leave too because the show was canceled. But then why did she tell W mag she had never thought of leaving Vs a couple months before the VS show?

I wasn’t trying to say her age was the issue. But VS is like a big pink section these days and I don’t think she really fits that image. Either way, I think she made the right decision in leaving.

[laeteita]

10 minutes ago, lucyford said:

Well the two interviews do not add up.. that’s just the truth. 

This doesn’t mean she lied. It’s obvious something changed in the time between these two interviews, something she can’t help with or something not up to her so she had to fit in ‘new’ circumstances.

[lucyford]

14 minutes ago, laeteita said:

This doesn’t mean she lied. It’s obvious something changed in the time between these two interviews, something she can’t help with or something not up to her so she had to fit in ‘new’ circumstances.

I wasn’t even trying to call her a liar. Whatever reason she had for saying this, I don’t know. But here you see she tells Daily Front Row she basically knew all of 2018 it would be her last. Yet here you also see she told W mag in September 2018, leaving hadn’t even crossed her mind. I’m not trying to call her out or anything just pointing out it’s hard to tell how things ended with VS when things like this dont add up.

[laeteita]

16 minutes ago, lucyford said:

 

Thanks for the interviews now i think my statement is true. By saying “i knew for a year [beforehand] that it would be my last walk...”.  she means she knew the probability of show would be cancel IMO. 

Second interview was not only about vs btw she talked about her doing runway in general.

 

[lucyford]

1 hour ago, laeteita said:

Thanks for the interviews now i think my statement is true. By saying “i knew for a year [beforehand] that it would be my last walk...”.  she means she knew the probability of show would be cancel IMO. 

Second interview was not only about vs btw she talked about her doing runway in general.

 

In the second interview, that was actually a follow up question about Vs. she was asked 3 questions about Vs before that last question was asked. Unless maybe she didn’t interpret it to be just about Vs? 

But I don’t know if Adriana would just leave because of the show being done. Obviously that was her favorite part about that contract but I’m not sure she would leave just cause there wasn’t a show. Also did Vs even know that that was going to be the last show? Because remember there is a new CEO since Adriana left whom was the one to make this decision. I would think they wouldn’t have just made it a Adriana farewell if they were already planning this.

[ekn]

4 hours ago, laeteita said:

I don’t know if this is possible but all this drama about Vsfs got me thinking adriana was informed there will be no show this year ( or anymore). So she had to left earlier than she said she will. I can’t find any other reason.

 

This is the only LOGICAL reason to believe.  If an angel who signed like yesterday was given the info that show won't be on TV/ or got cancelled Adriana definitely knew it long before. Can't remember the girl's name at the moment but one of the newest angels already leaked the info about the show months before. 

I believe not only Adriana, probably everybody knew this because cancelling the show is a big deal for the VS, they can't decide to this over night. Adriana rarely worked any VS events in her last years with brand so if show is really cancelled or won't be on T.V. i think we found reason of her early departure.

 

I'm glad she already left. Ship is officially sinking; 

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[lucyford]

15 minutes ago, ekn said:

 

This is the only LOGICAL reason to believe.  If an angel who signed like yesterday was given the info that show won't be on TV/ or got cancelled Adriana definitely knew it long before. Can't remember the girl's name at the moment but one of the newest angels already leaked the info about the show months before. 

I believe not only Adriana, probably everybody knew this because cancelling the show is a big deal for the VS, they can't decide to this over night. Adriana rarely worked any VS events in her last years with brand so if show is really cancelled or won't be on T.V. i think we found reason of her early departure.

I think this is possible but I think VS would’ve wanted to promote the 2018 VS show as the last one to bring even more attention to it. I think this must’ve been decided by the new CEO who came into the picture AFTER Adriana left. Obviously the models have known for a bit now but I remember it was just a few months ago when Candice posted a story about prepping for the VS show. 

[laeteita]

1 hour ago, lucyford said:

 Because remember there is a new CEO since Adriana left whom was the one to make this decision. 

Ok imagine there is a man with a knife in his chest and the only way to save his life is removing it as soon as possible. His doctor is getting ready for surgery but all of a sudden the doctor injured himself by a lancet and now he is not able to do operation. So they immediately called another surgeon to operate surgery. Do you think the new doctor would leave the knife in the chest while the only way to save his life is removing it?

[ekn]

57 minutes ago, lucyford said:

I think this is possible but I think VS would’ve wanted to promote the 2018 VS show as the last one to bring even more attention to it. I think this must’ve been decided by the new CEO who came into the picture AFTER Adriana left. Obviously the models have known for a bit now but I remember it was just a few months ago when Candice posted a story about prepping for the VS show. 

Last one?! What makes you think that? We're not sure about this, maybe just a year off or two. But for Adriana, being around for two years without doing anything is quite uncessary.

Facts don't change by the change of the CEO and the fact is the show is not doing well and something has to change. If it wasn't necessary the former one wouldn't decided to cancel show in the first place so there is no other options to choose for the new CEO. 

I personally think giving a break then coming back with a better ideas is the best way for them but on the other hand, Adriana has no place in this process. 

Ed Razek confirmed (before he deleted his IG account) Adriana can be around as much as she wants and there are many other things enough for me to believe it was Adriana's decision to leave VS.

 

BTW you made me notice, her not being in Forbes list might be related to leaving The Society  because you know it's the agecies that provide information for the Forbes. We don't know exactly when they cut the bonds so if it was earlier than we noticed, it is possible they prefer not to give her financial information to the Forbes since she was not working with them anymore.

 

[lucyford]

39 minutes ago, ekn said:

Last one?! What makes you think that? We're not sure about this, maybe just a year off or two. But for Adriana, being around for two years without doing anything is quite uncessary.

Facts don't change by the change of the CEO and the fact is the show is not doing well and something has to change. If it wasn't necessary the former one wouldn't decided to cancel show in the first place so there is no other options to choose for the new CEO. 

I personally think giving a break then coming back with a better ideas is the best way for them but on the other hand, Adriana has no place in this process. 

Ed Razek confirmed (before he deleted his IG account) Adriana can be around as much as she wants and there are many other things enough for me to believe it was Adriana's decision to leave VS.

 

BTW you made me notice, her not being in Forbes list might be related to leaving The Society  because you know it's the agecies that provide information for the Forbes. We don't know exactly when they cut the bonds so if it was earlier than we noticed, it is possible they prefer not to give her financial information to the Forbes since she was not working with them anymore.

 

I just don’t think VS was planning cancelling the show this year especially after Candice posted a story about prepping for the VS show. Surely Candice would be one of the first models to learn when it was decided it was canceled. 

 

The Society posted Adriana in Cannes a couple months ago and for her last VS show as well as events she did earlier this year (oscars and daily front awards which Chris even attended). Adriana leaving The Society is very recent. Her IG email still is to The Society also.

 

Adriana didn’t work much that year, her VS contract was prob worth much less than usual since her only responsibility was the show, and her Puma contract I don’t believe was taken into consideration yet. So it’s not that shocking she didn’t make the cut that year.

[medicenevs]

13 hours ago, lucyford said:

I just don’t think VS was planning cancelling the show this year especially after Candice posted a story about prepping for the VS show. Surely Candice would be one of the first models to learn when it was decided it was canceled. 

Leave Candice out of it because that story she posted was a THROWBACK from her prepping for show LAST YEAR. Wheter VS was planning to cancel the show or not, idk but let's not get things twisted.

[laeteita]

29 minutes ago, medicenevs said:

Leave Candice out of it because that story she posted was a THROWBACK from her prepping for show LAST YEAR. Wheter VS was planning to cancel the show or not, idk but let's not get things twisted.

Not just that, the info about chris is also wrong tho...

[lucyford]

17 minutes ago, laeteita said:

Not just that, the info about chris is also wrong tho...

What info about Chris is wrong? That he was at the Daily Awards with adriana???

[Souled-Out]

ALL I KNOW IS,  it is a good thing Adriana left when she did. Period. They cancelled this years show at such a state. They would be lucky if they can return again. It would be sad for Adriana to have been around as long as she was and to still be with VS when it was doing this bad. Its good she doesn't have to associate with what the brand is right now and how things are going with them. No fashion show, wow

[fieldofoptics]

Adriana seems to be living her best life right now 🥰 she seems so genuinely happy in all of her stories. 

[fieldofoptics]

Just finished reading the last few pages. In respect to the on going debate about whether she was asked to leave or chose to -do we know for certain that VS knew a year in advance that they were canceling the show? Their numbers have been on a steady decline in recent years, but I also don't think that's a decision that's typically made and announced to models so soon after receiving the numbers for 2018 viewers. A lot can change in the span of a few months and it would be a strange strategy for a corporation to tell models a year in advance that the event that VS is most known for wasn't happening. 

 

I don't really buy that adriana knew and that's why she left. There are so many leaps being made there. I think it's possible that she could have maybe left for other reasons. I just find it unlikely that she made a strategic move based on the direction the company was headed. 

 

Personally, I think it was maybe somewhat mutual. In most recent times, VS primarily used Adriana for the VSFS and not much else. With the steady decline in numbers for the show, an angel contract where adriana is still being paid millions, would probably be something they consider in maybe not wanting to hold on/keep. What's the point if the viewership is so low? Not even adriana is going to save that hot mess. I think adriana, probably missed the days of being able to do more at vs, but still enjoyed the brand and walking the show and simply put, the paycheck! All I'm saying is it could have been a suggestion from both ends. Or a suggestion from VS that adriana had no real hesitation with. 

[Sophie20]

Someone know why so many people are writing bad things about Adriana on her insta coments? Who is Marina Yers? Is she still in Spain?

[lucyford]

1 hour ago, Sophie20 said:

Someone know why so many people are writing bad things about Adriana on her insta coments? Who is Marina Yers? Is she still in Spain?

Adriana is not with Ana anymore. Ana went to a concert yesterday and she posted a lot like when she went with Adriana, but Adriana wasn’t there. And she didn’t show Adriana today either. I think Adriana is with Emir.  Someone Adriana followed when she was with Emir posted a picture similar to Adrina’s sunset post around the same time. Not sure what country she is in but she is definitely not back home. We also know Adriana doesn’t show much when she is with her bf on her stories. And she hasn’t been posting as much as when she was with Ana. I just saw the comments about the Marina person. Apparently she asked Adriana for a picture and she said no.

Edit: I watched the video Marina talked about Adriana. Apparently Marina ran into Adriana at the club in Marbella a few days ago. Adriana asked her if she could take her picture with her friend (prob Ana). And after Marina took it, she asked Adriana if she could take a picture with her. She says Adriana said no and left laughing with her friend (Ana). I hope this isn’t true or that Adriana was just drunk...

[Souled-Out]

2 hours ago, lucyford said:

Adriana is not with Ana anymore. Ana went to a concert yesterday and she posted a lot like when she went with Adriana, but Adriana wasn’t there. And she didn’t show Adriana today either. I think Adriana is with Emir.  Someone Adriana followed when she was with Emir posted a picture similar to Adrina’s sunset post around the same time. Not sure what country she is in but she is definitely not back home. We also know Adriana doesn’t show much when she is with her bf on her stories. And she hasn’t been posting as much as when she was with Ana. I just saw the comments about the Marina person. Apparently she asked Adriana for a picture and she said no.

Edit: I watched the video Marina talked about Adriana. Apparently Marina ran into Adriana at the club in Marbella a few days ago. Adriana asked her if she could take her picture with her friend (prob Ana). And after Marina took it, she asked Adriana if she could take a picture with her. She says Adriana said no and left laughing with her friend (Ana). I hope this isn’t true or that Adriana was just drunk...

 

Her laughing was probably due to her being drunk. But Adriana seems to not like taking photos with fans while on vacation. Generally thats fair. But I can see why it would leave a bad taste in people's mouths since she asked the girl to take the photo of them. Like it is the least she can do since she asked the girl for a service. IF she didn't ask the girl to take a picture of her and her friend it would be fine. So, I do understand why people would be upset.

 

I will say the girl seems to be like a youtuber or social media persona, people like that tend to have young fans and the first thing they do is attack someone who did something to their fav. I am cringing reading some of those comments lol. Bitches asking her if she bought her followers and shit. Its clear they are ignorant to who Adriana is. However, like I said, can't blame people for not liking that because its only fair since she asked that girl to do something for her that she takes a picture with her.

 

This reminds me of when steph curry decided to not tip a pizza delivery guy after the guy asked for a photo. Stuff like that happens sometimes with celebs. I just hope Adriana doesn't make that mistake again herself, either she takes the picture her damn self or be prepared for someone to ask for something in return. She is lucky the girl isn't that well known, so its only a handful of comments and most of them aren't in the US (where Adriana is the most loved), most of them are spanish, so.. whatever. Adriana needs to not make that mistake again though because thats not her brand. She is not Naomi and she doesn't want to be (someone known for being unfriendly)