43 minutes ago, elfstone said:

That is something else entirely. Those are girls as young as 13 or 12, and vast majority of them are forced into marriage by their parents

 

Yeah and the fashion industry ain't helping at all by having 16 years old in bridal gowns, these girls should be modeling prom dresses, not wedding dresses that's creepy as fuck and it just helps perpetuate an image that is very wrong of extremely young brides being cool.

 

Tbh the entire fashion industry is gross but that's for a completely different thread 

35 minutes ago, elfstone said:

He wasn't just soliciting un****ge girls, but running an organized ring trafficking them, abusing/coercing them to have s*x with his with his pals. 

 

And then filming them and using the material for bribery. It's said that a ton of DVDs were found labeled (famous dude) + (girl's name).

 

 

I also got some creepy vibes from people around Taylor few years ago, but she seems to be OK now.

 

Yeah Taylor dated that guy for six or seven years. There was no element of coercion or gaslighting that I know of, so good for her I guess.  I am sure it was worth it for her while it lasted, you could tell she really loved him

Wasn't he much older than her?

Yeah, about a decade or so older. But again, whats the big fkin deal?

10 year difference isn't much when everyone is adult, but it is a lot when one of the people is a teenager. But, that's done now so no point in talking about it too much. Hair Gel is in the past.

Indeed It is frowned upon by some people. However, such relationships are certainly not odd or illegal, or morally reprehensible in any way. Not in Taylor's case anyway. 

If she was under 18 when they started dating, then yes, those relationships are odd. And even legality is questionable based on location. And it's often called 'grooming'. And I do find them morally reprehensible. He was an adult man, she was a teenage girl.

I always thought it's weird that they started dating when she was a teenager.  It seems her parents didn't had a problem with it.

And with Romee and Laurens? Wasn't she 14? Well he isn't 10 years older then her...and It works for them.

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5 hours ago, Clauds said:

 

Yeah and the fashion industry ain't helping at all by having 16 years old in bridal gowns, these girls should be modeling prom dresses, not wedding dresses that's creepy as fuck and it just helps perpetuate an image that is very wrong of extremely young brides being cool.

 

Tbh the entire fashion industry is gross but that's for a completely different thread 

But these same girls are modeling evening gowns and RTW during fashion weeks. Fashion houses hire these girls because they ARE grown women or at least they look the part. It has nothing to do with romanticizing the idea of a16 y/o bride. 

3 minutes ago, elfstone said:

But these same girls are modeling evening gowns and RTW during fashion weeks. Fashion houses hire them because they look like, and at least physically are grown women, not because they want to sell the idea of a 16 y/o bride. 

 

I'm sorry but they don't look like grown women at all, if anything it's creepy af, the entire fashion industry is based on making people believe that these girls are "physically grown women" and that's bullshit, they are not, that's literally the reason why model careers are short, because the minute they actually fully grow they get dropped by brands if they have boobs or a butt. It happened to many girls and it's what Taylor was referring to in the interview and she's a high-profile model, imagine what it is for lesser known girls. Just because the fashion industry does it, doesn't mean it's right and that's why now they have a ban on girls under certain ages walking fashion week, it's baby step in the right the direction. I can't be bothered with looking at Bridal stuff when the model looks like a child or a teen going to her confirmation, it's uncomfortable as hell and I know that's the case for many other women. 

 

As for Hair Gel, he's gone and there's no point on beating the dead horse so let's move on from that as it has been discussed so many times in this thread, we all feel some type of way about it and I don't think there's anything that can be added to that.

38 minutes ago, elfstone said:

Fashion houses hire these girls because they ARE grown women or at least they look the part.

 

To be fair, most of the time, they don't. It widely known that models are being pushed to lose weight because it makes clothes "flow" better on a runway. What's particularly sad is that girls like Taylor are pushed to lose weight and then a celebrity like Jennifer Lopez comes and wears the same dress on a red carpet and gets praise from the same designers. Karl Lagerfeld loved Jennifer Lopez but if a model showed to a casting with Lopez's body he would've called her fat. He was known as a "fat shamer".

A guy in his mid to late twenties who hits on high school aged girls is a creep. A rather massive creep if you ask me.

 

But yeah, hair gel boy is long gone so no point in dwelling too much on that.

20 hours ago, elfstone said:

Yeah Taylor dated that guy for six or seven years. There was no element of coercion or gaslighting that I know of, so good for her I guess.  I am sure it was worth it for her while it lasted, you could tell she really loved him

Yeah I don’t believe this. I mean she may not have felt like there was any issues especially with her parents seemingly on board and Jim Jordan probably encouraged it. But they met when she was 15 and you can’t tell me there wasn’t any grooming involved in that relationship. 

What I don't get is why would you as a parent let your 15-year old daughter date a 26-year old? It's just creepy, full stop.

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