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5 minutes ago, La Vie Est Belle said:

what is the point to close the victoria's secret online website. I understand the store to be closed for obvious reason. 

 

because lingerie isn't necessary during a pandemic so people shouldn't be working making your order

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According to their responses on their Instagram account, they closed the online store to deep clean and rearrange their distribution center to comply with the 6-feet apart thing. Nobody is mandated to work right now but those who volunteer to do so are getting paid time and a half, and they mentioned something about adding a spot to get your health checked out and stuff while at work too but I’m not sure how well that plan is gonna work out for them given everything going on.
 

At least, that’s the “official” reasoning to why they closed and reopened the online store, there’s probably more factors ($$) that went into the decision behind closed doors.

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Candice is still an Angel? She needs to go, same with Martha, Stella and Elsa. Make Lorena an angel. What happened to the vsallaccess website. 

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Elsa is done, she was posting about her Gucci lingerie yesterday, no way she'd be allowed to do that under VS contract.

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On 3/30/2020 at 3:45 AM, Clauds said:

Elsa is done, she was posting about her Gucci lingerie yesterday, no way she'd be allowed to do that under VS contract.

If Elsa's done then Candice definitely needs to leave. I can't think of any reason why it's still benefitting her at this point to stay other than being the resident "veteran angel." They could have had an Adriana/Alessandra 2.0 duo going on w/ Candice & Behati, but even Behati bounced. It's like Candice is just there now- but knowing VS they'll probably hold on to her for as long as they can. They also need to let go of Martha & Stella.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Candice and Martha were done too. They haven’t shot anything since the holiday campaign and nothing new for white wall photos either. 

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I'm pretty sure both Candice and Martha are done as well. As mentioned, they haven't done anything for VS is months, they are not even being featured in their social media anymore, my best bet is that their contracts expired late 2019 and it went under radar because there was no show.

 

I think there's two options: they are either going to let the contracts slowly expire and get rid of the Angel concept as we know it, or there will be a major revamp to the lineup to make it more inclusive. 

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On 3/31/2020 at 3:08 AM, Clauds said:

I'm pretty sure both Candice and Martha are done as well. As mentioned, they haven't done anything for VS is months, they are not even being featured in their social media anymore, my best bet is that their contracts expired late 2019 and it went under radar because there was no show.

 

I think there's two options: they are either going to let the contracts slowly expire and get rid of the Angel concept as we know it, or there will be a major revamp to the lineup to make it more inclusive. 

Could the line up really be more inclusive? They had or have Barbara on there, shes pretty curvy. In terms of ethnicity I think its been the most diverse lineup ever.

I hope they dont go too ham with inclusivity and diversity. They pretty much already had it without any fuss or saying anything about it. I would look forward to Lorena Duran being an angel if they aren't getting rid of it. She has potential.

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On 3/28/2020 at 8:44 PM, lovelace said:

According to their responses on their Instagram account, they closed the online store to deep clean and rearrange their distribution center to comply with the 6-feet apart thing. Nobody is mandated to work right now but those who volunteer to do so are getting paid time and a half, and they mentioned something about adding a spot to get your health checked out and stuff while at work too but I’m not sure how well that plan is gonna work out for them given everything going on.
 

At least, that’s the “official” reasoning to why they closed and reopened the online store, there’s probably more factors ($$) that went into the decision behind closed doors.

I also think Lorena would be a great Angel. I just hope they don't get rid of the concept all together. I could see them doing that, but that's what really sets them apart, or at least has in the past. If they stop using Angels, they're just like every other brand now that they don thave the VSFS. 

 

 

 

I'm starting to like this Angel lineup more and more, but I do think the pictures posted above are the best ones VS has released in a long time and there were only a few Angels in those. I would be sad to see Candice go because she is my favorite and who got me interested in VS, but she's from another era and I do think it's time for her to leave. 

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5 hours ago, Sensual said:

Could the line up really be more inclusive? 

There still isn't an asian Angel which blows my mind. Sui and Ming don't count imo bc they only work in the Asian market and never were announced as global Angels.  It's such a strange oversight at this point. 

 

Valentina and Lorena Duran would be fantastic additions to the line up, but I'm at a point where I'd rather see the Angel line up go. Keep things fresh with a well curated, rotating cast of models each season. Make it like landing a campaign for any other lingerie brand. 

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I think it would be interesting if they revamp the angel lineup, but if i'm being honest the whole concept of the VS angels is pretty outdated. Think about it- the angel campaign was first launched in 1997, 23 years ago. The angels were extremely popular and influential in the early 2000s because the concept was still new and fresh. It's 2020 now and the concept is pretty played out at this point. I just don't think this new generation really cares that much about the VS angels; and I certainly don't think the angels are as influential as they once were. But like someone else said above, it's kind of VS's signature thing that sets them apart from other brands. So I can see why it would be hard for them to get rid of the angels altogether. Either way, whether they decide to revamp the lineup or get rid of the angels altogether it would definitely be taking a risk.

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O.o

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16 hours ago, GiseleQueenBee said:

I think it would be interesting if they revamp the angel lineup, but if i'm being honest the whole concept of the VS angels is pretty outdated. Think about it- the angel campaign was first launched in 1997, 23 years ago. The angels were extremely popular and influential in the early 2000s because the concept was still new and fresh. It's 2020 now and the concept is pretty played out at this point. I just don't think this new generation really cares that much about the VS angels; and I certainly don't think the angels are as influential as they once were. But like someone else said above, it's kind of VS's signature thing that sets them apart from other brands. So I can see why it would be hard for them to get rid of the angels altogether. Either way, whether they decide to revamp the lineup or get rid of the angels altogether it would definitely be taking a risk.

I doubt its hard for them, hard for us more like. Riding the nostalgia trip until it crashes and burns :P.  It could be a risk, maybe but who knows.

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I don't think the concept of the Angel is outdated necessarily, it's just that none of the girls they have now are stars. They had stars in their lineup but they've gotten older and moved on.

Brand needs a star power and current girls have none.

 

 

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^ agree. right now, the big deal is nepo and insta models, people don't care about hf now so they barely know any model besides barbara palvin or taylor hill lol 

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I said to someone on here not too long ago that I thought it was a mistake to bring the "nepo" girls into the VS show. Yes, they brought attention to the show, but it was at the expense of VS's own models. They should have been given that platform but instead they got overshadowed in the media coverage. So it's no surprise they aren't as big stars as previous Angels were.

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48 minutes ago, hillstreet said:

I said to someone on here not too long ago that I thought it was a mistake to bring the "nepo" girls into the VS show. Yes, they brought attention to the show, but it was at the expense of VS's own models. They should have been given that platform but instead they got overshadowed in the media coverage. So it's no surprise they aren't as big stars as previous Angels were.

 

THIS.

 

Had the 2015 show focused on the 11 new Angels and not in Gigi and Kendull (and later on Bella) and we'd have a completely different story. Remember when in 2008 Candice went from being a nobody to being THE girl? It was because gave three damn good outfits, screentime and she was being promoted hard all over the VS website with an even harder push after the show that led to the status as the new cool bitch in town. By 2009 VS clearly established Candice and Rosie as the new leads, the future of the brand. Meanwhile by 2016 VS had established their new Angels as a the B-List playing second to the "nepo" crew.

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Yes, exactly Clauds! I'd love to know what the VS Angels at the time really thought about Kendall and the Hadid girls being promoted over them.

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Plus, I think they wanted to make Karlie Kloss the next iconic Angel. They gave her so much attention with her BFF Taylor, that it turned into Kaylor fashion event.

That spectacularly backfired because Karlie went on her own way after that.

 

21 minutes ago, Clauds said:

THIS.

 

Had the 2015 show focused on the 11 new Angels and not in Gigi and Kendull (and later on Bella) and we'd have a completely different story. Remember when in 2008 Candice went from being a nobody to being THE girl? It was because gave three damn good outfits, screentime and she was being promoted hard all over the VS website with an even harder push after the show that led to the status as the new cool bitch in town. By 2009 VS clearly established Candice and Rosie as the new leads, the future of the brand. Meanwhile by 2016 VS had established their new Angels as a the B-List playing second to the "nepo" crew.

 

We also have to consider what happened behind the scenes.

 

All the 'nepo' girls (Gigi/Bella/Kendall) all stick together and are friends. If it is really true that Ed Razek was acting inappropriately towards Bella, there is a huge chance that he was the cause why those girls wanted nothing to do with VS anymore.

 

 

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Well having Taylor performing (twice?) also overshadowed the actual models. Plus, they brought Karlie back in 2017 when she was otherwise done with VS.

 

I think the Bella incident allegedly happened in 2018?

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