23 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

 

There are two ongoing wars with two nuclear powers (Israel and Russia)

 

There are people already dying from climate change.

Including in my own country (Belgium).

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2021/07/18/from-railroads-to-tap-water-the-impact-of-the-floods-is-huge/

And that isn't even taking into consideration the infrastructure costs, which are massive too. The estimates of one billion in this old piece turned out to be laughably low.

40 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

There are people already dying from climate change.

Including in my own country (Belgium).

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2021/07/18/from-railroads-to-tap-water-the-impact-of-the-floods-is-huge/

And that isn't even taking into consideration the infrastructure costs, which are massive too. The estimates of one billion in this old piece turned out to be laughably low.

 

Only an administration who thinks that the potential use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine & Israel is 0% would make such a statement lol.

40 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Only an administration who thinks that the potential use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine & Israel is 0% would make such a statement lol.

 

It is close to 0%. But even if it is higher than that, it isn't already a tangible threat to lives the way climate change is. But I guess those deaths don't count somehow.

1 minute ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

It is close to 0%. But even if it is higher than that, it isn't already a tangible threat to lives the way climate change is. But I guess those deaths don't count somehow.

 

That's war propaganda lol.

The NATO-Ukrainian counteroffensive has totally failed despite the repeated disinformation & false claims of the administration about the power of magical Western wonder weapons.  

 

The much prepared dozen-odd NATO trained brigades have performed poorly and have been shot to pieces.  Western press/MIC admit that they have expended their reserve stocks of munitions & AFVs.

 

The Russian continue to squat on occupied territory and are busy increasing military production, recruiting, and developing their reserve army for the second invasion.  

 

In the current situation the only way to take the 4 occupied provinces is for the US/NATO to use nuclear weapons and engage in nuclear war with Russia.

 

Likewise, the only way Russia can destroy the Ukrainian army in the near term is to use nuclear weapons.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Cult Icon said:

 

That's war propaganda lol.

 

Okay so what would you put the chance at? Strategically it makes zero sense for Russia to use nukes right now.

21 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Biden said that "climate change" is more dangerous to the world than "nuclear war".  

 

John Kirby (Pentagon Spokesman who has lied for 1 1/2 years about the war in Ukraine) is either confused or is full agreement and the reporter can't believe it lol.

 

If that's what Grandpa thinks, he should retire right now. This statement is dangerous.

 

As much as I think that protecting the environment is important, the risk of freaking nuclear winter is very high if someone pushes the nuclear button (even if it's a tactical nuke, there will always be escalation). This is way worse than climate change.

8 Nuclear Close Calls that Nearly Spelled Disaster

https://www.historyhit.com/nuclear-close-calls-and-near-misses/

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/04/Close Calls with Nuclear Weapons.pdf

13 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

8 Nuclear Close Calls that Nearly Spelled Disaster

https://www.historyhit.com/nuclear-close-calls-and-near-misses/

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/04/Close Calls with Nuclear Weapons.pdf

 

I don't get why this means I should be more worried about nuclear war today than I was yesterday?

 

Putin nuking Ukraine is a hypothetical. One I don't believe will ever become a reality because he cares too much about his own hide and there is no scenario in which he deploys nukes in which he survives.

 

Meanwhile, climate change is already costing lives and billions in infrastructure each and every year. Just this Summer, parts of Greece had the equivalent of a year's worth of rain in Belgium (so not the annual rainfall in much dryer Greece itself) over the course of two days.

 

But apparently you are insane if you say you care more about those real-life costs that are ongoing and ever more costly than some hypothetical notion of nuclear war. Okay.

Maybe I should worry about aliens invading too, while I am at it.

15 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

This is way worse than climate change.

 

Do you know how much climate change cost Europe in lives and infrastructure costs just in the last few years?

It's bonkers to me to find something that is already happening, already costing lives and destroying homes, roads, businesses, ... is deemed less of an issue that some vague and minor threat of nuclear war. A threat that was there for fifty years during the cold war but it was never used an excuse to not care about other stuff.

8 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Do you know how much climate change cost Europe in lives and infrastructure costs just in the last few years?

It's bonkers to me to find something that is already happening, already costing lives and destroying homes, roads, businesses, ... is deemed less of an issue that some vague and minor threat of nuclear war. A threat that was there for fifty years during the cold war but it was never used an excuse to not care about other stuff.

 

Did I say we shouldn't care about the environment? No. I precisely said the opposite. Could you read before getting angry?

 

That's what really bothers me with the internet. Lots of people don't read. They want to pick a fight, so they attack straw men for the sake of it

23 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

protecting the environment is important

 

That's what I said. I can't make it clearer.

On 10/7/2023 at 12:13 PM, SympathysSilhouette said:

I have to say the level of discourse in U.S. politics has degraded almost in real time over the course of the past ten to fifteen years in a manner that is almost impossible to wrap one's head around.

 

You're right. The internet is one of the prime culprit.

 

The internet is a big generator of "sad passions"

 

It really makes me sad to see how people get angry for things that don't really matter. I include myself in all this mess.

 

 

 

 

Biden in 2022 made the totally unsupported, deranged and failed claim that the "sanctions would cut Russian GDP by half".   Instead Russia rebalanced and industrial sector is at 12% growth last I checked.  Germany appears to have suffered the most under the sanctions.

 

This is a youtuber in a Moscow Mall, it is interesting how the Russians took over the Western businesses and made knock-offs.

 

 

 

20 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

Biden in 2022 made the totally unsupported, deranged and failed claim that the "sanctions would cut Russian GDP by half".   Instead Russia rebalanced and industrial sector is at 12% growth last I checked.  Germany appears to have suffered the most under the sanctions.

 

This is a youtuber in a Moscow Mall, it is interesting how the Russians took over the Western businesses and made knock-offs.

 

 

 

Very interesting! Stars coffee with the Soviet officer logo is funny

 

Russian women are really beautiful. I've been there and I remember how great they were, just like she shows on the video. And they're way sweeter than Western women, with also more traditional views.

 

All things considered (beauty, personality), I'd say that the average Russian girl is twice better than the average Western woman (and on par with the best Western women).

 

52 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

 

 

I agree a 100% with what Elon says.

 

There's too many BS job. It doesn't mean that we don't need finance, marketing or reporting, but we have a tendency to inflate them too much.

 

(and some jobs are purely useless, like "diversity officer"...)

Minthara reasons like our woke press and politicians do.