July 26, 20186 yr On 7/26/2018 at 10:18 PM, Sanni said: This is oddly satisfying! http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_ab5pc981/ Thanks for this video! This is hilarious. Fast food is detrimental to the health both in direct and indirect ways
July 26, 20186 yr I feel guilty every time I eat a hamburger and fries because the calorie count is so high and the food itself isn't that good compared to what I can eat with the same calories (such as a rib eye, medium rare with some stir fried potatoes in beef juices... )
July 28, 20186 yr On 7/26/2018 at 6:05 PM, Cult Icon said: what was your impressions of the book? I only saw the movie many times. i can't remember the details, i read it many years ago. one can't verify that everything he wrote in the book was true, and happened exactly that way. but, as usually, i prefer the original novel to the movie adaptation.
July 29, 20186 yr On 7/27/2018 at 1:45 AM, Cult Icon said: I feel guilty every time I eat a hamburger and fries because the calorie count is so high and the food itself isn't that good compared to what I can eat with the same calories (such as a rib eye, medium rare with some stir fried potatoes in beef juices... ) You're right to distrust them. Fast food is crap, and not because of calorie count, but because it's industrial food. A salad at Mc-thingy's is not a salad, it's a cocktail of additive and chemicals. Bacon and cheese from a traditional grocery store have fats and calories and stuff, but it's largely better than any industrial food with the same nutritional content.
July 29, 20186 yr On 7/28/2018 at 10:22 AM, 17 Moments of Spring said: i can't remember the details, i read it many years ago. one can't verify that everything he wrote in the book was true, and happened exactly that way. but, as usually, i prefer the original novel to the movie adaptation. Sounds like he "modified" it to make a better story..real life often doesn't work that well. Have you ever preferred the movie over the novel? I have heard that "Fight Club" and "American psycho" were both better films than novels. IMHO the films can complement the novels with their imagery. Words have their limitations.
July 30, 20186 yr On 7/28/2018 at 8:44 PM, Enrico_sw said: You're right to distrust them. Fast food is crap, and not because of calorie count, but because it's industrial food. A salad at Mc-thingy's is not a salad, it's a cocktail of additive and chemicals. Bacon and cheese from a traditional grocery store have fats and calories and stuff, but it's largely better than any industrial food with the same nutritional content. I agree, and I think it's an epidemic. What I do not like about convenience food in the US is that 90% of the stores is based on being ultra unhealthy. Even privately owned places with good food still have a pretty unhealthy menu. I want to eat a Kale salad and boiled vegetables but I cannot find them almost all of the time. Also, there is a lack of various meats (due to not being as economical as chicken and sausages/patties), suck as pork, seafood, steak, duck, etc. I think I asked you the wrong question earlier, so what type of "convenience food" does France have?
July 30, 20186 yr The American fast food epidemic is due to the corporations selling out for money. The fast food corporations don't have pride in their products and I'd be willing to bet the higher ups don't eat that shit.
July 30, 20186 yr 8 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: The American fast food epidemic is due to the corporations selling out for money. The fast food corporations don't have pride in their products and I'd be willing to bet the higher ups don't eat that shit. It looks (from a business perspective) a cynical way to maximize income, margins, and expansion. In economics/management there is a concept of oligopolies in markets- so in a certain field you have only a few multinational corporations and essentially they are so dominant that they can 1. shut out the competition 2. control the media/advertising exposure so that instead of the customer holding the business accountable in perfect competition, it's the corporation that has more reach. So in a way they resemble a government agency.
July 30, 20186 yr 26 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: The American fast food epidemic is due to the corporations selling out for money. The fast food corporations don't have pride in their products and I'd be willing to bet the higher ups don't eat that shit. Sure, but there's an easy way out: just don't go eat that crap. Last time, we were very hungry and there were a Mc-Thingy restaurant (that was close to a charred-oily-chicken restaurant, I think it's called F.C.K. or maybe I'm misspelling ), we didn't go there. I'd rather starve to death than eat the industrial scraps they call food there.
July 30, 20186 yr 54 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: you eat zero packaged goods? It's not the package that I'm worried about. I just eat food that is the least "transformed" and that has the least additives (like complex sugars). It's not that complex to find. I just go to my regular supermarket, where there are vegetables, fruits, fresh products. It doesn't take that much time to cook. 21 hours ago, Cult Icon said: Also, there is a lack of various meats (due to not being as economical as chicken and sausages/patties), suck as pork, seafood, steak, duck, etc. Yes, that's why I like to vary my food (which is probably the best strategy to stay healthy). So, I like to buy different meat/fish: pork, beef, salmon, cod, smoked herring, anchovies... It's not that expensive in our supermarkets when one really looks at the price. The food is packaged, but often it's freshly cut from the butcher/fishmonger's shop that's within the supermarket. 21 hours ago, Cult Icon said: I think I asked you the wrong question earlier, so what type of "convenience food" does France have? There's convience food, but I don't think it works that much, because people distrust industrial food a lot (not even for environmental reasons, just because we know it's not good for our health). When I'm in a hurry, I just eat stuffs like these: small carrots (they are sold packaged and ready to eat), red cabbage (packaged as well and already cut), salad (to which I just add oil and vinegar), to which I can add ham, salmon, a piece of cheese, a yoghurt or a fruit. I also like to dip stuff in eggplant caviar. It's as quick as convenience food, better tasting and it doesn't screw up my bowels.
July 30, 20186 yr 1 hour ago, Cult Icon said: It looks (from a business perspective) a cynical way to maximize income, margins, and expansion. In economics/management there is a concept of oligopolies in markets- so in a certain field you have only a few multinational corporations and essentially they are so dominant that they can 1. shut out the competition 2. control the media/advertising exposure so that instead of the customer holding the business accountable in perfect competition, it's the corporation that has more reach. So in a way they resemble a government agency. Economics! I love to talk about economics. Industrial organization was my jam a couple of years ago. I love books on this topic. The modern world is full of oligopolies and very fat companies. Last time, I was chatting with a friend and we enumerated several big industry sectors; nearly all of them have a limited number of competitors (very often they can be counted on the fingers of one hand). This has been getting worse for the past decades, an issue that isn't debated much. I like the history of anti-trust laws, but they aren't enforced as much as they used to be (because it's not a sexy topic for politicians).
July 30, 20186 yr Competition laws: a very important subject. The best politicians take it very serioulsy (unfortunately, it's not sexy for them to talk about it). The worst politicians are like rabbits caught in car headlamps on these issues....
July 31, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, Cult Icon said: It looks (from a business perspective) a cynical way to maximize income, margins, and expansion. In economics/management there is a concept of oligopolies in markets- so in a certain field you have only a few multinational corporations and essentially they are so dominant that they can 1. shut out the competition 2. control the media/advertising exposure so that instead of the customer holding the business accountable in perfect competition, it's the corporation that has more reach. So in a way they resemble a government agency. Yes it's a great business model, but the food quality suffers horrendessly. 1 hour ago, Enrico_sw said: Sure, but there's an easy way out: just don't go eat that crap. Last time, we were very hungry and there were a Mc-Thingy restaurant (that was close to a charred-oily-chicken restaurant, I think it's called F.C.K. or maybe I'm misspelling ), we didn't go there. I'd rather starve to death than eat the industrial scraps they call food there. It's different here, alot of Americans worship money above all else and every other culture worships the finer things in life. American don't know how to do that anymore and appreciate the finer things in life.
July 31, 20186 yr In a way I've been moving that way as well. I used to think more like a capitalist and market purist; now I realize that most of what western and (perhaps even more so) eastern capitalism produces is trash. But its this "trash" that keeps what has value in production. I am starting to think more holistically. Human efforts should go to things that have value and not just thrown around on things that stimulate the economy. In a way, we are wasting our lives too as we spend time to produce these goods and services. There's no salvation. We are stuck in a prison of our sins; as Marx and others pointed out 130 years ago capitalism cannot stop without generating the seeds of a recession or depression, it's like being addicted to drugs.
July 31, 20186 yr "Quand on pense qu'il suffirait que les gens n'achètent plus de saloperies pour que ça ne se vende pas!" (Coluche) All it takes is for people to stop buying crabs to be sure it won't be sold anymore.
July 31, 20186 yr Easier said than done!!! The communists were conscious of this and tried to enforce it: Everybody equal! Everybody now has to wear the same potato sack for the rest of their lives because arms manufacture is more important!!!
July 31, 20186 yr All that needs to happen is the need for money doesn't exist anymore, but civilization isn't ready for that.
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