January 18, 20187 yr 17 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: I think that what started this discussion is that PC is a soft form of totalitarianism. And totalitarianisms love to split the population and make people fight each other. That twitter informed the attitude... The political media is in its own world at this point- about half of the US electorate doesn't care enough to show up to vote. IMHO much less than this even follow the twists and turns. Much of the Soviet union was either apathetic or openly disloyal to the Soviet gov't. Even the majority of the Nazi soldiers didn't care about politics as studied here: It's always just the minority that truly care (and at a higher level, participate actively) about politics. Noam Chromsky- a radical left professor- has commented that he and others use college students to protest largely because 1. they are educated in the message 2. A lot of them have the time and energy that working adults don't have. He forgot to mention the unique passion and idealism of a youthful brain.
January 19, 20187 yr On 18/01/2018 at 4:17 PM, Cult Icon said: That twitter informed the attitude... Yes, we should really take care of this tweeting bird! Fortunately, I know felines who love birds... for their meals Spoiler On 18/01/2018 at 4:17 PM, Cult Icon said: The political media is in its own world at this point- about half of the US electorate doesn't care enough to show up to vote. IMHO much less than this even follow the twists and turns. Yes, I see what you mean. The big PC media have a huge responsability on the discouragement, and they don't even realize that. I'm pretty sure that the US people made their choice in 2016 because they were fed up with the media. On 18/01/2018 at 4:17 PM, Cult Icon said: Noam Chromsky- a radical left professor- has commented that he and others use college students to protest largely because 1. they are educated in the message 2. A lot of them have the time and energy that working adults don't have. He forgot to mention the unique passion and idealism of a youthful brain. Unfortunately... Students' passion is often "used" as a tool by older leaders Oftentimes, PC media will state that intellectuals are more moderate. But there's no link whatsoever. Intellectuals can be extremists. In France, Trotsky is often depicted as moderate because he was an "intellectual". The truth is he was really an extremist. More extreme than many others (including Stalin at some point). He was the head of the red army and he massacred a lot of revolutionaries that were just "not enough" communists, like the Kronstadt sailors.
January 19, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: Yes, I see what you mean. The big PC media have a huge responsability on the discouragement, and they don't even realize that. I'm pretty sure that the US people made their choice in 2016 because they were fed up with the media. Oftentimes, PC media will state that intellectuals are more moderate. But there's no link whatsoever. Intellectuals can be extremists. In France, Trotsky is often depicted as moderate because he was an "intellectual". The truth is he was really an extremist. More extreme than many others (including Stalin at some point). He was the head of the red army and he massacred a lot of revolutionaries that were just "not enough" communists, like the Kronstadt sailors. Most academics in the USA are liberal Democrats- which makes the frame that encases their material to be very predictable. Chromsky is a radical leftist. The situation you describe was how some elements of US academia was up to the 70s. (extremist things like apologists for Stalin and Mao, Viet minh etc.) The fall of the SU ended discredited the remnants. The rest were liberal Democrats. The chasm between the USA's political traditions and West. Europe remain as they did in his time. Americans have a traditional optimism of the individual's ability to eventually "get rich", exultation of the individual's rights, suspicion of central government and the taxes they pay to sustain it- making them considerably less nationalist than the European imperial powers. I believe this tradition is why the West/Northern Europeans have much more faith in what they get for paying for their welfare /social justice states today. The Gov't and corporate marketing is more effective. I wrote elsewhere on this forum that in my lifetime, trust in the US media elite started to fall in the 1990s and is at all time low. How do this "morality" start and spread? The best text about it that I've personally read was this book. This study focused on how innovations spread in a society but it can be applied to ideas, ideologies, habits, etc. all sorts of things.: There is also the theory of reflexivity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexivity_(social_theory) Ultimately the things you often complain about- "PC" is in the interest of the corporate media and their investors today. PC sells products and services. It sells political advertising. This is why M.J is pushing fat women into Sports Illustrated. That's how it is...capitalism isn't about fairness, necessarily doing things of value. ... On the other side, "Infowars" and "Brietbart" certainly have right wing elements supporting it.
January 25, 20187 yr On 1/17/2018 at 8:05 PM, phenobarbie said: ... call them gay. ... meanwhile, libshie-bolshie agitprop iterates that being gay is a glorious thing. :}
January 25, 20187 yr Where the fuck is the wall? I bet it still won’t be up by the end of Trump’s term. And that’s the main thing he ran on. His voters are willing to waive even that away. The cult of Trump is more important now.
January 29, 20187 yr While reading the regular media (not to mention the social media ), I have more and more trouble to find good stuff among the huge amount of crap that is produced every day... So, either I'm still a young fool who can't grasp all the deep wisdom in the main media, or I'm too old for this shit... Spoiler It kind of makes me sad actually... I used to love reading newspapers
January 29, 20187 yr On 19/01/2018 at 4:18 AM, Cult Icon said: Ultimately the things you often complain about- "PC" is in the interest of the corporate media and their investors today. PC sells products and services. It sells political advertising. This is why M.J is pushing fat women into Sports Illustrated. That's how it is...capitalism isn't about fairness, necessarily doing things of value. ... So, you think it's all about the money. Probably, yes... Spoiler Still, I think that corporate "marketing departments" can be wrong (like really wrong). It's not an exact science, they do "trial and error", and sometimes they are blinded by their own blah blah (and in some industries, market players have sheep-like behaviours; so, it's difficult for them to get out of their world) ------ "PC" is also just a way for fancy people, in certain environments, to maintain their social status. The more they worship their sacred PC idols, the more they think that they will be a part of something. It's quite obvious with some actors.
January 30, 20187 yr Cleveland Indians are dropping the Chief Wahoo logo from their uniforms http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/29/news/companies/chief-wahoo-cleveland-indians/index.html It's a cute logo lol
February 8, 20187 yr On 29/12/2017 at 2:48 AM, Cult Icon said: Love Avent is 95% horrible Sports Illustrated Swimsuit is on the same slippery slope this year
February 8, 20187 yr The K/Jenner sisters and mother are only dating/fucking/making babies with black men. I think it's weird. Waiting for brucelyn to date Naomi Campbell.
February 9, 20187 yr I like this actor ^^ Everybody hates Chris That's not a white woman, it's a black men! #whiteFace I don't like chocolate on Banana! it's disgusting.
February 13, 20187 yr On 2/7/2018 at 7:37 PM, Enrico_sw said: Sports Illustrated Swimsuit is on the same slippery slope this year It's been bad for the past 2-3 years or so.. The pictures I liked were from Vita. Upton's shoot was ok.
February 13, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, Cult Icon said: The pictures I liked were from Vita. Upton's shoot was ok. Yes, Vita and Kate Upton's photoshoots were the best. My favorite was Kate's though (she's very sexy and I really like her smile).
February 14, 20187 yr On 2/9/2018 at 8:35 AM, frenchkiki said: I like this actor ^^ Everybody hates Chris That's not a white woman, it's a black men! #whiteFace I don't like chocolate on Banana! it's disgusting. No, it's a beautiful white woman I'm unhappy that the voting system was removed. I heard that I get upgraded to a BBC if I get 100 likes
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