February 13, 20169 yr By showcasing a broader variety of body types, SI (if they have any influence on such things at all, and even if they don't, they have a responsibility to try) can expand our culture's idea of what "the best of the best" looks like. That's the entire point. Our very concept of what "the best of the best" has to look like has been shaped by culture, it did not spring out of the ground. An introductory art history course would prove this point adequately to anyone with eyes. People like to cry about political correctness, imagining themselves to be in an era uniquely concerned with things they see as irrelevant distractions taken "too seriously." Truth is this has always been the case. People were calling the idea that women can work for a living the equivalent of "politically correct" back when that idea was controversial. It was also "politically correct" to oppose apartheid. Progressives, like those who would nod approvingly at this issue, have been dismissed as naive do-gooders since the dawn of modern politics. Yet we all benefit from the legacy of their victories, even those who yearn for a return to the past dare not go too far back. Thus, what is dismissed as "political correct" will with luck in some future decade be the status quo. Every issue will have an Ashley Graham or two. And there will be all new things for stubborn people to complain about, perhaps a trans woman (Playboy beat them to the punch there) or God forbid, a woman older than 45. So history goes, provided people in power continue to give a shit.
February 13, 20169 yr ^ I just want to see in my lifetime to see a magazine with various types of women (or men) are featured and we can just say how pretty they are. Not omg that one's fat or that one's too inked or that one is a stick. THAT's what I hope to see, with more body acceptance, body confidence and self love. and that's why I am all for the hash tags out there about acceptances. I'm one of the fluffy ones. Y'all, I hope this makes sense, I've been up for 30+ hours and it doesn't do me good. I probably should step away from the interwebs now.
February 13, 20169 yr Just saying guys- follow the money, not the liberal ideology and indoctrination (which is used to get the money). There is a reason why brands based on fat acceptance have become more successful. Now they are using SI as an advertisement channel. In reality, though, chubby chasers among men/lesbians will continue to be as common as foot fetishists so the significance of fat acceptance is more something along the lines of social relations between women & their pecking order.
February 13, 20169 yr Word of advice: Cynicism can take on the appearance of wisdom, but it only serves to make us complicit in our own ignorance. See also, assuming people who have different beliefs than you are "indoctrinated." Please.
February 13, 20169 yr I can't bear reading through more paragraphs about the people on here calling Ashley/Barbara names vs. those defending a woman's right to not be as thin as a traditional model. It is what it is. People are different, and let's accept it. Be nice, be respectful. The world would be boring if everyone looked the same. Personally, from what I've seen Ashley doesn't do much for me, but it's not because of her weight. I have plenty of SI models on that "doesn't do much for me" list, including the popular Gigi. So, for those who love Ashley, congratulations and enjoy what should be a great set of photos and videos for you. I want to bring the discussion back to someone who most certainly does it for me: Nina Agdal. Holy crap. I just saw the shaving cream ad this morning. I had let my scruff go for the past 4 days, but upon watching that 90 seconds of scalding hot Nina video, I immediately went to use my Edge shave gel and shave this morning.
February 13, 20169 yr Apart from gifs, those arguments are what I have to offer. I'd be more than happy to only feel like I have to post the former. And I will, once we get more substantial videos, of course. Almost certainly starting with Nina.
February 13, 20169 yr Throw these politics out of the window for a moment. Ultimately the sexual market is defined by men (and lesbians). The vast majority don't value fat or elderly women, period. Every movement has their beginnings- there is a market for popular ideas/fads just there are pricing bubbles in markets. That is the way culture works. What you see here with this magazine is a culmination of a trend that has been going on for years. How far will it go? who knows. It'll settle down somewhere, but not anytime soon. From a retailer's perspective, there are a lot of overweight women that have to endure a fashion culture that doesn't cater to their physiques and lifestyles. They have certainly seen the rift from using superskinny models to sell to the heavy set. Once women get over the hill, they care less about their own beauty (with family, etc.) and many from gen X or older decide that they like eating delicious food & don't want to be punished socially for it. This trend is overall a win-win. The success of brands that target overweight women attests to this.
February 13, 20169 yr Hey Guys can somebody can post good links of TNT channel ? for the SI special today please?
February 13, 20169 yr Here's the list of models we have and their current amount of Instagram followes, let's see who does better after tonight and this whole week. But if social networks are as powerful as some people love to think, Barbara Palvin and Megan Williams should trash the ROTY and Model Search votings since they pretty much double their competitors. Nina Agdal - 1.111.474 Chrissy Teigen - 5.035.428 Chanel Iman - 994.524 Sofia Resing (Rookie) - 44.019 Irina Shayk - 4.998.693 Bo Krsmanovic (Rookie) - 43.936 Rose Bertram - 363.636 Erin Heatherton - 679.157Gigi Hadid - 13.265.770 (most followed overall) Hannah Davis - 396.260 Samantha Hoopes - 537.532 Kate Bock - 143.921Tanya Mityushina (Rookie) - 39.329 (least followed rookie and overall) Kelly Rohrbach - 150.151 Robyn Lawley - 144.146 Lily Aldridge - 3.586.160Barbara Palvin (Rookie) - 2.901.102 (most followed rookie) Hailey Clauson - 148.235 Hannah Ferguson - 211.830 Emily Didonato - 783.776 Ashley Graham (Rookie) - 1.065.211 Model Search: Ebonee Davis - 54.566 Kyra Santoro - 744.191 Daniela Lopez Osorio - 230.395Megan Williams - 1.026.659 (most followed MS girl) Nicole Meyer - 65.336
February 13, 20169 yr That thing is so late, I just realized it starts after midnight here o.o, I may as well go to bed and watch it tomorrow if I don't get to take a nap today.
February 13, 20169 yr 16 minutes ago, Clauds said: Here's the list of models we have and their current amount of Instagram followes, let's see who does better after tonight and this whole week. But if social networks are as powerful as some people love to think, Barbara Palvin and Megan Williams should trash the ROTY and Model Search votings since they pretty much double their competitors. Nina Agdal - 1.111.474 Chrissy Teigen - 5.035.428 Chanel Iman - 994.524 Sofia Resing (Rookie) - 44.019 Irina Shayk - 4.998.693 Bo Krsmanovic (Rookie) - 43.936 Rose Bertram - 363.636 Erin Heatherton - 679.157Gigi Hadid - 13.265.770 (most followed overall) Hannah Davis - 396.260 Samantha Hoopes - 537.532 Kate Bock - 143.921Tanya Mityushina (Rookie) - 39.329 (least followed rookie and overall) Kelly Rohrbach - 150.151 Robyn Lawley - 144.146 Lily Aldridge - 3.586.160Barbara Palvin (Rookie) - 2.901.102 (most followed rookie) Hailey Clauson - 148.235 Hannah Ferguson - 211.830 Emily Didonato - 783.776 Ashley Graham (Rookie) - 1.065.211 Model Search: Ebonee Davis - 54.566 Kyra Santoro - 744.191 Daniela Lopez Osorio - 230.395Megan Williams - 1.026.659 (most followed MS girl) Nicole Meyer - 65.336 Thanks @Clauds ! IF the votes are not rigged...It will be a good competition for the ROTY and the MS ! Barbara and Nicole will have my votes. Though i really love Dani, and Megan in a less extent ! The model search team is way better than the rookie team IMO ! It will be pretty hard for Nicole, but she will have my total support !
February 13, 20169 yr Tanya and Barbara look incredible. Both such beauties. Barbara looks better then I expected, she is really getting back to herself. Really happy they chose these two rookies bc the other ones do nothing for me. I wish they had picked Dani over Sofia though.
February 13, 20169 yr I'm voting Barbara and DLO for sure, but I do agree the MS is way stronger than the actual rookie class. I would have done Barbara, DLO, Kyra, Ashley and Nicole as rookies, and leave the others for MS.
February 13, 20169 yr I don't understand this model search thing :-( what's the difference of being rookie?
February 13, 20169 yr Model search girls will all share one page in the magazine and they will compete to get an actual spot in the magazine next year, they are probably not going to do pr or even walk the red carpets alone, they'll be sharing the spotlight at all times and maybe they'll have all of 10 pictures online. The losers are most likely never going to be anyhwere near SI again. At least this is how it was in 2011, maybe they will do it differently this time but i don't think so. Rookies will be far more featured in the magazine and pr events and have better odds at coming back next year.
February 13, 20169 yr 10 minutes ago, Warhol said: I don't understand this model search thing :-( what's the difference of being rookie? Whoever "wins" is automatically in the 2017 issue
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.