Nina Agdal

Barbara Palvin

are my first choices

Valerie...I am a new fan of her,don't know very well so I am not sure for her about VS

Emily will be a great choice,but after leaving of Adriana

I vote for Bar Rafaeli but i would like to see among the VS angels Xenia Deli,Barbara Palvin and Kate Upton

xenia deli would be a great angel also barbara palvin, shanina shaik, sandra kubicka, lais ribeiro and chrishell stubbs would be a great addition for the new angels.

@ kate upton being a vs angel...

I know it's a matter of everyone's opinions but I just don't see it. Especially given her attitude, but I guess she's young... I also don't think her body is the standard that VS looks for.

I think Bar can cut it as a VS model... but I wouldn't be too excited to see her as one as much as I like her. I vote for Palvin. She's perfection for VS.

These three.

Fuller figured - Petite, healthy, toned and a little curvy - Cross between the two.

Bombshell - Exotic - Naughty School Girl

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WIN

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Definitely Kate and Barbara

I realized that maybe I'm the odd one out here. Because so many of you think that Upton is a great fit for VS. I'm not trying to criticize anyone, instead I'm wondering what makes you guys think so? I know that she has curves in terms of her boobs, and I do agree that it would be nicer to have voluptuous women who have curves even without a push up bra. But don't you think there are imposed standards in terms of what waists/hips/etc look like? A lot of times Kate doesn't have a defining stomach OR waist...and I think her waist is plenty bigger than what VS holds as a standard Again, I know Kate has her fans...and it's true i'm not a fan of hers but this is a separate issue. I'm trying to see if you guys agree about her waist/the VS standards, whether you think her body type should be the prototype, whether you guys think it's other things about her that make her a good fit... I just don't think that the "little something extra" outside of her boobs is not really deniable. (Is this not allowable discussion on Bellazon btw?) If not... I'll be happy to delete it.

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p.s. before anyone implies it or tries to claim it , these aren't intentionally found "Bad" pictures of Kate. This is generally what she looks like outside of photoshopped SI shoots (which I don't even think SI does a good job of, especially the cover. Big injustice to her) But these are runway shots. It's fair game, and I'm just curious as to whether her fans think that it really incorporates into the set up that VS has. I mean even back in the day when they had more voluptuous girls like Tyra and Casta... the rest of their bodies were still held to a certain standard.

Valerie van der graff is superb, and should really get more work.

Dionni Tabbers

Tori Praver

Martha Streck

Flavia de Oliveira

Isabeli fontana

Fabiana Semprebom

Maryna Linchuk

I'd love to see any of these women in VS more; As for Angels, all of them would do it for me but I favor Valeri, Dionni, Flavia, and Maryna most.

Well honestly your answering a lot of the questions in your statements above for men. The whole "I know that she has curves in terms of her boobs, and I do agree that it would be nicer to have voluptuous women" statement applies for a lot of the male friends I know. Trust me, they wont care so much about a so called "imposed standard". They just want to see a women with more chest and meat on her bones. Of course that's not to say that some love a small women but for the most parts its all about boobs and ass. And as far as Kate's body being the prototype, I'd say no on that. Just variety plz, as best as possible considering VS sticks to a narrow range of measurements.

Well honestly your answering a lot of the questions in your statements above for men. The whole "I know that she has curves in terms of her boobs, and I do agree that it would be nicer to have voluptuous women" statement applies for a lot of the male friends I know. Trust me, they wont care so much about a so called "imposed standard". They just want to see a women with more chest and meat on her bones. Of course that's not to say that some love a small women but for the most parts its all about boobs and ass. And as far as Kate's body being the prototype, I'd say no on that. Just variety plz, as best as possible considering VS sticks to a narrow range of measurements.

A lot of my male friends don't like Kate much at all. Most of them would take Candice over Kate any given day, most opinions on Kate are split there's hardly an in between. A more voluptuous woman doesn't mean she has to have more weight around her waist... like I pointed out, look at Tyra or Casta in their prime and while they were working with VS. Full cup sizes, voluptuous women, yet they fell into the supermodel/VS standard despite their curves because the rest of their bodies were in line. I don't think it's impossible for a woman to be slimmer and have voluptuous boobs. Being skinnier than Kate hardly makes a girl a stick though. There are some super skinny girls at VS- agreed, but most of them are at a standard that I think qualifies them as supermodels or in line with "standards". Ex; Adriana, Doutzen, Miranda. None of these girls are stick like, but of course they don't have D cups. I'm just saying, are big boobs the single factor that makes Kate a perceived great fit? I don't see it happening at all given the rest of her body. And I'm for variety...in terms of varying cup sizes, different ethnicity, different bums, etc but is an expectation as far as how in shape and fit a model is, wrong?

Last time I checked Adriana didn't have much of a waistline either lol

All I can say is reference this poll I started so u have some idea of what men prefer.

http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?s=&...t&p=2830595

Prettyphile

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.I can sense that you're offended. No need to be or jump to the "last time I checked" defense, as there is nothing to be defensive about. Obviously you're a Kate Upton fan, as are many, I'm just stating an opinion and if anything I was trying to better understand the logic of those that would like to see her for VS. Yes Adriana sometimes doesn't have a defining waist/hips either, but she sure as hell did when she was 20. And even now, she's far slimmer, which was also one of my points ( I don't know the extent to which weight can be discussed on here) so I won't harp on that. But to make a bold statement, yes... I don't think Kate is the slim/slender type that fits VS. And I don't believe there's no in between, as in someone bigger than current models, but smaller than Kate's frame.

There isn't anything wrong with agreeing to disagree

ILUVAdriana, thanks I'll check that out

Emanuela de Paula

Emily Didonato

Edita Vilkeviciute

Marloes Horst

All I can say is reference this poll I started so u have some idea of what men prefer.

http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?s=&...t&p=2830595

I actually have seen this and HAVE participated in the poll and voted for 'curvier'. But the point proves my point exactly... Tyra, Casta, and Doutzen are curvy, but also fit. But I see a big difference between each of those women and Kate Upton, as far as body type goes... which is the point I've been making all along. Women can be "sticks" as you might call them and still have bigger cup sizes.

Here's some non-consensual views:

-Katie is clearly successful and well-liked: But what reasons...? It is beyond me. I would assume that it is a certain familiar homeliness and friendliness but complete answers elude me. I like blonde models a great deal but I passed her over. As far as curvy models go, she's not at the same level as someone like Tori Praver. Tori's fitter than Katie.

-Sexy is 20-something to me. Nothing less. Barbara and Nina look 16 and 18 respectively and some of their photos are a bit much because I keep on thinking that they are high school students.

Well not entirely. I just put those 3 women up as examples - and as a note e.g. is an abbreviation for exempli gratia, which is Latin for "for example". I could of easily listed Kate but left her out as she is obviously on the curvy side of the equation here. But this poll in general just points to the fact that men like curvy how ever that might be labeled and perceived by each individual.

Are you guys familiar with Daniela Freitas? I think she has a great look for VS, very femme fatale. But I guess she can sometimes cross into the 'too sultry' look, but she has a very versatile look in my opinion.

I also think Ola Koska is beautiful

Oh wow, I do love Daniela Freitas look I must say, thx for the share. Would be interesting to see her as an angel.