victoriassecret_aut Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The collection is out on their site now. https://www.victoriassecret.com/at/vs/bras/icon?brand=vs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsnoop Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 That video proves what made VS spectacular in the past, the girls UNDERSTOOD how to move their bodies and sell sexiness. Look at EmRata in that video, she’s just standing there. Of the new girls I actually think Paloma tried to do the best, the rest are literally doing nothing for the camera. You compare this to the old what is sexy videos and you understand perfectly what VS tried to do here. They just don’t make them like they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkCouture Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Clauds said: Same, can't believe we're back here That being said, they really should have kept this with the actual Icons: Naomi, Dri, Candice & Gisele. The rest are just meh and far from icon status anywhere I think they included the other models for diversity and inclusivity purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.smith Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Looking at VS stocks looks like business has not been good in past years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude2k Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 It began when they dumped the VS Angels and started diversifying their models with different body types in an attempt to be more inclusive. Also... "On August 2, 2021, L Brands (NYSE: LB) completed the separation of the Victoria's Secret business into an independent, public company through a tax-free spin-off to L Brands shareholders." I'm sure there were other contributing factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnatasiaSteele82 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, john.smith said: Looking at VS stocks looks like business has not been good in past years. Because a lot of women are against believing their models are in drugs, anorexia, bulimia... Now, in obesity... And It is clothes business, not all products can like to everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude2k Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 | Victoria's Secret Video preview: Spoiler [2023.08.14] 43346059_597242399239993_8091098391060767091_n.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnatasiaSteele82 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 She IS Slimmer than in that video... That photoshoots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clauds Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 That video is about six months old, so she was still pretty much post-partum, it's not photoshop. She's in her 40s and had a kid, of course it's gonna take a while for her to get back in shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico_sw Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 5:49 AM, john.smith said: Looking at VS stocks looks like business has not been good in past years. Very interesting. They went from 80$ to now close to 20... such a downfall. What do analysts say about the causes of this downfall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemgi Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 They missed the inclusivity shift (see Savage x Fenty...) and remained elitist/fantasy-driven for too long. Also their stuff is expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkCouture Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Siemgi said: They missed the inclusivity shift (see Savage x Fenty...) and remained elitist/fantasy-driven for too long. Also their stuff is expensive I agree. All this stuff they are doing comes off as being disingenuous, performative, and an attempt to be "woke". Their stuff are somewhat pricey but I believe another issue is often the quality doesn't match the price point. While they have increased their prices, the quality has declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico_sw Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 ^ the mismatch between quality and price seems to be a good argument. I can see why sth like this annoys the customers. On the other hand, the "inclusivity" thing doesn't convince me that much. From a purely "marketing" perspective (meaning that we put aside any political views), it seems that getting woke divides the customers and sometimes bring up huge backlash (like for Budlight). I can't see it as a good marketing strategy, but I'm not an expert of the lingerie market, so I'd be really curious to see what analysts said (even though sometimes, analysts don't know what they're talking about as well ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico_sw Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I also don't understand the "elitist" argument. Don't the customers want to become a better version of themselves? Don't they want to dream about greater things? (again, I don't know the lingerie market, so maybe there has been a shift and customers don't want that any more) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemgi Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Enrico_sw said: I also don't understand the "elitist" argument. Don't the customers want to become a better version of themselves? Don't they want to dream about greater things? (again, I don't know the lingerie market, so maybe there has been a shift and customers don't want that any more) It's moreso that they don't (or didn't) carry that many sizes so people went to brands which they feel represented them better. They kept their target too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnatasiaSteele82 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I always think why VS business don't choose women with career or studying in the University. Pink promotes the University Studies, so they should choose people Who study or studied, like they did with Michelle Alves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkCouture Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 VS Tour 2023 promo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravalaka Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Any recent appearances anywhere of Marisa Miller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnatasiaSteele82 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 3:55 PM, PinkCouture said: VS Tour 2023 promo To me big not. VS was for me feminismo, beauty, good taste, well manners, nice. Keep it nice and civil, you may not like the concept or the models but insulting them is not the wait to go about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicenevs Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Oh, Lily is also back, that's a cute surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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