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IDK if it's still under the same owner but it used to be owned by Sasha (can't remember her username atm), she was a BZ member for years but went MIA from here, not sure if she is still running the website. Either way, it's great the site is still around!

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Basically This is the same I've heard as well I'm not sure about other brands but H&M and M&S I heard pay in the thousands for a single shoot and they are usually in very convenient locations and short shoots with a regular staff the models know. Meanwhile an editorial will pay a small amount and require long flights, long hours and not necessarily great working conditions.

It's not a perception when models themselves say it, and I'm pretty sure they are the ones who know better but feel free to believe whatever you want Literally a bunch of articles about this, this is just the first page of google https://www.thedailybeast.com/many-models-get-paid-in-clothes-not-cash-but-that-might-be-changing https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/chi-new-york-fashion-week-models-coco-rocha-20150211-story.html https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/fashion/advice/a20309/fashion-q-and-a-fashion-week/ https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2013/02/43169/how-much-money-do-models-make And these are all post 2010 and I doubt much has changed recently. Big name model = Big paycheck, Small name = Small (or no) paycheck

Anna is not perfect for VS, the general public will most likely find her odd looking like they do with most of HF darlings and Anna rarely does lingerie shoots which is probably why she hasn't come anywhere near VS. Imaan has actually done VS both the show and catalogs, and still, you're not realizing that most of HF campaigns don't pay the girls unless a famous name that will bring press, this has been said multiple times by multiple models, fragrances are an exception and they usually qualify under beauty contracts which as mentioned are also lots of $$. VS (and other brands like H&M) pay in the thousands per shoot. Walking the show alone brings a shit ton of attention, why do you think even the most HF girls bother to attend the casting? VS is obviously a restrictive and very demanding gig which is why some models turn it down, obviously not all the models have the same aspirations and career goals but commercial brands is usually where the cash is.

She's so beautiful! Thanks for all the updates, SI needs to book her

Seems like much like Bar Refaeli she's just working in Israel now, at least her IG is still very active, I'll try to find some of her recent-ish work when I have time

I am living for this CH campaign, it's simply stunning.

She looks stunning there! Thanks

Digital cover? Trash, she needs her own, real, paper cover

Pretty much. You can't compare Kendull, The Hadids and their clique with other HF models because let's face it, they became HF models because of their commercial/social media success otherwise they'd be stuck selling Sherri Hill dresses. Also, when models have had to choose between walking a HF show like Chanel cruise almost all of them have chosen VS, this has actually happened multiple times and unless the models are close friends of a designer (see Cara D). There's no way in hell Freja, Edie Campbell, Anna Ewers ever made anywhere near as VS models. Again, VS is obviously not giving those seven figures contracts but it's at least six figures and your average HF gig may be 1K or free, building a good HF career can take years and you still won't make it big outside the industry you get lucky by dating/befriending someone famous (see Karlie Kloss) or getting a big contract, meanwhile successful commercial models who then jump into HF make more money from the exact same gig after just getting lucky with VS (see Elsa Hosk), SI (see Kate Upton) or some viral video (see Em Rata). VS is probably no longer the highest payig job but it's most likely still a Top 4 company along with L'Oreal, Estee Lauder and Maybelline.

VS never called Barbs plus size and Ed Razek would probably rather die than use those words in a statement, based on his controversial (yet awesome interview, sue me), it's just the media being trash as per usual. Also, commercial gigs have ALWAYS been better financially than HF, literally models themselves have said HF pays very little or not at all, or sometimes they give you free clothes as payment which may sound great but ain't no good to pay bills, yall really think so many big models are in the H&M catalogs because they like their products? Nope, it's because H&M pays big cash for their catalog shoots, hence why they can affors all the VS and more. Lais is one of the girls i recall saying she wanted VS because as mentioned, also provides financial stability in an industry where one day you are IT and the next day you are a nobody. It also means you'll work less but probably get exposure because say what you want but have you ever heard in the news who is the new Chanel/Fendi/Gucci girl? Nah mate, no one gives a flying fuck, Alexina and Barbara however, got more social media + news outlets mentions in the past two weeks than the average HF girl will get in a year. There's plenty of reasons why most of models always mention VS and beauty brands as their main career goals: money, exposure, stability, more opportunities. VS obviously doesn't have the impact it used to have, but it's still the biggest gig literally in the world a model can aspire, as much as I love Savage, no one gives a damm about their campaigns unless Riri is in them and most of people can't even name nor remember who was in their campaigns. I dare you to try to remember who was in the last HF campaigns or even La Perla, AP ... no one knows and no one cares enough.

Girl, I tried

- Robin Holzken - Rosmary Altuve - Ming Xi - Cindy Mello - Vika Bronova

Damn, it's been a year since any Jeisa content

I think we should just be thankful the industry embraced change at all tbh, otherwise Irina would be stuck doing ecom and that would be tragic, she pulls off HF so so well

Listen, there's no way in hell I'll go through everyone's lists so here are mine, probably all repeats but I tried 🤣 - Elsa Hosk - Adriana Lima - Olivia Brower - Taylor Hill - Barbara Palvin - Yael Shelbia - Jasmine Tookes - Stella Maxwell - Candice Swanepoel - Rosie Huntington-Whiteley - Lorena Rae - Kelsey Merritt - Neta Alchimister - Elizabeth Turner - Sofia Jamora - Bella Hadid - Grace Elizabeth - Georgia Fowler - Nina Agdal - Gizele Oliveira - Bruna Lirio - Bryana Holly

She looks stunning in those, gold is amazing on her

Pretty sure Lameka & Grace will be announced as Angels the next two Thursdays, Aiden hasn't been pushed enough but I adore her so if I can throw to more girls to the mix I'll add her and Lorena

Thanks for all the updates!

Are you doing copy + paste of the image or are you adding the actual link to your signature? BZ doesn't resize signatures

+1 I was going to comment the exact same thing, she is stunning and when she's able to smile and be more chilled her pictures are great but sis seems to only have one "high fashion, fierce, serious" expression and she needs to work on that if she wants to branch out

Alright folks, calm down. VS didn't kill anyone's mamma so let's stop taking this so seriously, at the end of the day Alexina got her paycheck so good for her ... Let's wait and see if Lameka or Grace are next but please keep it civilized in here.

Done! Lemme know if you like the new one

I updated the ones you posted here as well, if any other threads come to your mind feel free to PM me