The Political Correctness Haters' Club

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4 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Russia invaded so I don't see how those deaths are anyone else's fault. I can't believe the extent to which Russian propaganda is now being gobbled up.

 

Also, it's pretty clear that the Kremlin's ambitions go far beyond Ukraine. So even if they completely abandoned Ukraine, we are probably going to be on this very same merry go around within five years, only this time for the Baltics or Poland.

 

1. This is what I mean about disinformation.  The information environment in the West is at the level of complete delusion since the first day of the war due to racist information warfare and extreme incompetence by Western governments and MIC.  Medvedev is an internet troll...

 

Very weird that you would believe this after two years of lying and poor quality media reporting.  Those journalists and pro-Ukraine propaganda bots were frauds making up a fantasy world from the start.

 

2. There isn't, there is a lot of propaganda from NATO.  The war is about Ukraine, not the Baltics.  Russia does not have a large enough army and there is no interest from the public for taking Poland..  It would also trigger WW3 and use of nuclear weapons from NATO. NATO broke the Minsk agreements and militarized Ukraine in 2014-2022 so they are aggressors as well.

 

Minsk agreements - Wikipedia

 

There are a lot of war criminals on both sides: NATO and Russia- lying to the general public on a 24-7 basis like Joseph Goebbels has led to the death of hundreds of thousands of people when the war could have been ended in negotiations some time in 2022- the US and UK governments sabotaged the talks in Turkey.

 

3. As I pointed out the cold hard realities of military power - industrialization, adaptation, and mobilization has dictated things over time.  The chickens have come home to roost.

[Enrico_sw]

"Sweet Baby inc" is getting exposed now.

 

 

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@Stromboli1 have you seen that?

 

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12 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

I wonder if Elon Musk has political ambitions (as Trump 2.0).  He said no but his account on twitter is extremely political.

 

I don't know. Maybe. At least he's fighting for the people. He's fighting against the extremists that try to infect our favorite pieces of art.

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5 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Not only that, but most CEOs would avoid being so clear about their political leanings.

 

Most American CEOs are extremely clear about their political leanings. Bob Iger, Jeff Bezos, Jack Dorsey (Muks's predecessor), Larry Fink, Michael Bloomberg, etc. => all of them are pretty clear about their "wokeness" and their love for far left extremism.

 

Wokism has infiltrated capitalism in the past 5 years. It's an infection.

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I do wonder if Musk's 'endgame' is to become a politician maybe 10 years plus down the line after the retirement of Trump.  Either that or he will support any replacement for Trump.  

 

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23 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

Most American CEOs are extremely clear about their political leanings. Bob Iger, Jeff Bezos, Jack Dorsey (Muks's predecessor), Larry Fink, Michael Bloomberg, etc. => all of them are pretty clear about their "wokeness" and their love for far left extremism.

 

Wokism has infiltrated capitalism in the past 5 years. It's an infection.

 

IMHO WOKE in US corporate culture was just a natural social pattern, as back in the 2000s it was called 'Corporate diversity'.  The US has a diverse population so it is natural that corporate propaganda would create such initiatives to maintain workplace morale and make their company look more attractive for PR and potential employees.

 

It always appeared to be disingenuous as with the current forms.

 

A lot of the modern WOKE stuff is due to the way Americans are educated, especially those with liberal arts degrees.  So as they rose in the corporate ranks they started to having their 'own ideas', which has proven to be negative in the field of entertainment.

 

WOKE, feminism, etc. and other 'social justice' movements however strongest fuel is in the economic area:  massive economic problems and failure of the American dream for approx. half of the population to have the standard of living, family, and social life they want.  

 

It is the politics of discontent and unhappiness, and social failure, originating most strongly from a broken economic and gov't system.

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Feminism and other politics of unhappiness would naturally fade away ( significantly- half way I believe) if men with high school or even middle school diplomas could get jobs where they could buy a house in a few years and securely live a middle class lifestyle with a family on a single income like in the 1950s-1960s.  De-industrialization secured this loss.

 

The most basic and important things like housing, education, and healthcare have become unaffordable and women have become wage-slaves with family declining in importance.  Corporations have become much more powerful since the 1960s and the individual much weaker.  Economics and Culture has de-evolved into a very twisted set of priorities, it is actually family formation that is no. 1 in life and the backbone of a functioning society, not the endless chasing of delusions.  Sadly there seems to be no way to repair things.

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2 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Medvedev is an internet troll...

 

 

 

Medvedev is a former president who is still deputy of the security council. Also a lot of his rhetoric leading up to the Ukraine war has come to pass.

Pretending that him denying the existence of the state of Latvia is no big deal and certainly does not mean that the Baltics might soon be threatened by Russia is naive at best.

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41 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Medvedev is a former president who is still deputy of the security council. Also a lot of his rhetoric leading up to the Ukraine war has come to pass.

Pretending that him denying the existence of the state of Latvia is no big deal and certainly does not mean that the Baltics might soon be threatened by Russia is naive at best.

 

It's like how Biden claimed that 50% of the Russian economy would be lost due to sanctions and how people in the West falsely made up stories that Putin would be overthrown somehow due to the war.

 

Medvedev tweets are like any other political troll's tweets, they are mostly fiction directed to stimulate the imagination of extremists and are completely at odds with what the Russian state/Putin is doing and saying.

 

Journalists from the West like to use this as the most flimsy sort of 'proof', when they clearly know nothing about the enemy country that they pretend to be experts about.

 

IF Russia invades the Baltics/Poland NATO will use nuclear weapons on them.  What the Russians want is the demilitarization of Ukraine and turning it a North Korea/South Korea type situation with a DMZ.

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On 3/5/2024 at 5:35 PM, Cult Icon said:

In the US & UK- it was mainly the conservative right that de-regulated and de-industrialized both countries to a staggering degree, leading to the creation of a lot of poverty and disfunction in society.  The Unions were on the left.

 

You're talking about Reagan/Thatcher in the 80s. The de-regulated both foreign trade and internal economies. That's not what I think is best, but at least that was consistent and they didn't attach a ball to their industry's feet.

 

In the 90s, people noticed that there was a need for regulations (health, environment, etc.) and they were right. Some regulations were needed. Internally and externally. And simple ones.

 

Since the 2010s, there's a big folly in the West (especially in the European Union): very stringent regulations within our countries and free trade with countries that have close to zero regulations (China, India, etc.). This is the recipe for de-industrialization.  The Left is holding this view and wildly so. Parts of the Right (including Trump) see the folly and impact of it.

 

That's why our agricultors have been protesting in France in the past months. They're smothered by regulation while cheaper and less qualitative products come from overseas freely.

 

Today's Far Left has a fantasy: punishing Westerners and destroy the West. That's their prime goal.

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On 3/5/2024 at 5:35 PM, Cult Icon said:

The majority of service jobs come from the result of the bloated overdevelopment and overcompetition (I believe there is such a thing!) of industries- the physical/tangible 'wealth' of the society itself has not improved much at all (and even decrease) and the psychological-physical cost on human well-being and health can increase as it has in the US & Asia.  

 

I believe that the grip of mega-corporations and their negative impact on the economy is due to under-competition. Companies have been buying each other like crazy for the past decades. In many sectors: steel, aluminium, turbines, glass, plastic, entertainment, Fast-moving consumer goods, big tech, etc. These are oligopolies (and sometimes monopolies). Finance is dominated by giants like Blackrock (BTW, f** Larry Fink).

 

Small business have been crushed by these giants.

 

These mobs try to "force behaviour" (that's what Fink said). They are screwing up the middle-class, because they don't give a shit.

 

That's their dream:

Spoiler

 

 

This is not very different from communism.

 

 

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On 3/5/2024 at 5:35 PM, Cult Icon said:

Consumers are also not "perfect economic actors'- they also can be "captured" much more easily than economic theories assume with aggressive propaganda/marketing and lock-in by powerful corporations/industries.

 

This is true. But powerful corporations are the result of "under-competition".

 

Basically, there should be competition everywhere it's possible (and the state should ensure that by breaking down oligopolies/monopolies) and regulation where it's not possible (which concerns very few sectors).

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F*** you, Larry Fink.

F*** BlackRock.

F*** woke capitalism.

F*** the woke mobs.

 

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51 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

Feminism and other politics of unhappiness would naturally fade away ( significantly- half way I believe) if men with high school or even middle school diplomas could get jobs where they could buy a house in a few years and securely live a middle class lifestyle with a family on a single income like in the 1950s-1960s.  De-industrialization secured this loss.

 

The most basic and important things like housing, education, and healthcare have become unaffordable and women have become wage-slaves with family declining in importance.  Corporations have become much more powerful since the 1960s and the individual much weaker.  Economics and Culture has de-evolved into a very twisted set of priorities, it is actually family formation that is no. 1 in life and the backbone of a functioning society, not the endless chasing of delusions.  Sadly there seems to be no way to repair things.

 

That's what I think. I would just add that mega-corporations (aka the result of under-competition) allied with far left ideologies to screw up the middle class.

 

Mega-corportations and Marxism are very close in terms of ideologies. They both hate freedom and crush oppositions. The middle class was f*** by both of these ideologies.

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Mega-corporations love feminism, it helps them enslave women in BS jobs and crush the family to get more consumers. This is woke trash.

 

Feminist frequency or "sweet baby inc" are the agents of these corporations to infect the gaming industry. But we resist. We won't get f*** by these powerful douchebags.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

IF Russia invades the Baltics/Poland NATO will use nuclear weapons on them.  What the Russians want is the demilitarization of Ukraine and turning it a North Korea/South Korea type situation with a DMZ.

 

If there is anything I have become convinced of over the past two years it's that there is no way an invasion of the Baltics would lead to a nuclear exchange.

NATO would have to send in conventional troops (or perhaps the alliance won't even exist any more in the way it does now by that point).

Trump seems serious about pulling out of NATO, which would reduce the nuclear deterrent to just the UK and France in a European context.

 

Your own reasoning does not make sense, on the one hand Russia is a war economy with production capabilities that the West cannot match, on the other hand they would have no interest in taking over countries that would pose far less of a challenge logistically and in terms of manpower and equipment than Ukraine did and does.

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1 hour ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

If there is anything I have become convinced of over the past two years it's that there is no way an invasion of the Baltics would lead to a nuclear exchange.

NATO would have to send in conventional troops (or perhaps the alliance won't even exist any more in the way it does now by that point).

Trump seems serious about pulling out of NATO, which would reduce the nuclear deterrent to just the UK and France in a European context.

 

Your own reasoning does not make sense, on the one hand Russia is a war economy with production capabilities that the West cannot match, on the other hand they would have no interest in taking over countries that would pose far less of a challenge logistically and in terms of manpower and equipment than Ukraine did and does.

 

1.  why not?  That was NATO's game plan in the Cold War and why nothing happened.

 

2.   It requires Russia to declare war on Ukraine and mobilize a greater part of society.  An army of many millions to invade Europe, think in terms of 6 million or more and an army in the millions to occupy a country the size of Ukraine.  Not an expeditionary force of 600,000-430,000.  The entire Russian ground force was roughly 330,000+ men in 2022 and their initial force of 160,000.  

 

The claims that Russia wants to take over Ukraine (by Western media, MIC funded war mongering think tanks, and politicians) and invade other countries are bogus.

 

3.  Russia appears to be greatly outproducing and outsupplying the force in Ukraine is a testament to how de-militarized and incapable modern war machines are compared to the Cold War and WW2.  It is not a sign of a high level of capability.  

 

The US bombed Vietnam with a greater weight of fire than WW2 but in this war they struggle to produce basic artillery shells in anywhere near the required number.  Both NATO and Russia are a pale shadow of what they used to be.

 

4. It is still unclear if they intend to launch a second invasion of Ukraine at all.  They could do it and try to clear out the Donbass and the rest of Oblast Z and K but they do not have enough troops in the reserve army to do much more.  There is still no second round of mobilization.  

 

Or they could just continue positional warfare and try to exhaust Ukraine until it collapses and deplete as much NATO hardware and munitions stockpiles until a political solution is achieved.  That is the extent of their ambitions.

 

 

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This is how Russians see the Americans. Interesting.

 

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On 3/16/2024 at 6:19 PM, Enrico_sw said:

 

You're talking about Reagan/Thatcher in the 80s. The de-regulated both foreign trade and internal economies. That's not what I think is best, but at least that was consistent and they didn't attach a ball to their industry's feet.

 

In the 90s, people noticed that there was a need for regulations (health, environment, etc.) and they were right. Some regulations were needed. Internally and externally. And simple ones.

 

Since the 2010s, there's a big folly in the West (especially in the European Union): very stringent regulations within our countries and free trade with countries that have close to zero regulations (China, India, etc.). This is the recipe for de-industrialization.  The Left is holding this view and wildly so. Parts of the Right (including Trump) see the folly and impact of it.

 

That's why our agricultors have been protesting in France in the past months. They're smothered by regulation while cheaper and less qualitative products come from overseas freely.

 

Today's Far Left has a fantasy: punishing Westerners and destroy the West. That's their prime goal.

 

 

Trump's will to impose tariff on Chinese cars is a proof that the Right is trying to defend the Western industry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13210227/bloodshed-donald-trump-rally-automobile-car-imports.html

 

The Left is the prime destroyer of the industry in the West, because of a) their strong regulations in the West and b) their push for free trade with countries that have zero regulations (like China).