Just now, Stromboli1 said:

 

To me it has red flags all over it and seems like a deal gone bad scenario.

 

No, it has red stains all over it as Trump is dismembered and in pieces 😂

Just now, Cult Icon said:

No, it has red stains all over it as Trump is dismembered and in pieces 😂

 

Okay, but the skeptical hippo in me senses that they fully do not intend to pay up upon delivery of Trump DOA.

 

You better have major back up and contingency plans in place.

1 minute ago, Stromboli1 said:

 

Okay, but the skeptical hippo in me senses that they fully do not intend to pay up upon delivery of Trump DOA.

 

You better have major back up and contingency plans in place.

 

based on what knowledge?  

 

I know you are a Trump supporter

Just now, Cult Icon said:

based on what knowledge?  

 

I know you are a Trump supporter

 

Just have a feeling and it would be no different for me if the situation was reversed and meeting with American intelligence for delivery.

7 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

Can we give Trump away to the Iranians and collect 80 million dollars??? 

 

5 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

how about give him to the Iranians for free?  

 

 

 

Serious question time...

 

Are y'all Trump supporters or are y'all Republican  supporters? 

 

Personally, I've  never liked him, from the first time I saw  him in the media  decades ago. 

On 1/24/2020 at 9:28 PM, CandleVixen said:

Serious question time...

 

Are y'all Trump supporters or are y'all Republican  supporters? 

 

Personally, I've  never liked him, from the first time I saw  him in the media  decades ago. 

 

I'm a Trump supporter, I have no love for Democrats and Republicans. The ineptitude of corrupt crony politicians combined with biased big tech and corrupt media paved the way for someone like Trump to become POTUS. I prefer Trump drains the swamp for 4 more years cause he's perfect for it. Then I hope America can get back to sensible political discourse by doing right by the people and for the people. I despise political correctness and identity politics.

 

I really do like Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard too, wish they're around for the 2024 presidential election cycle.

 

Yang is the only presidential candidate talking about the future, the rest are talking present and past.

 

The American infrastructure is in decay and outdated, it needs to be modernized and be built for the future. 

On 1/24/2020 at 10:28 PM, CandleVixen said:

Serious question time...

 

Are y'all Trump supporters or are y'all Republican  supporters? 

 

Personally, I've  never liked him, from the first time I saw  him in the media  decades ago. 

 

I am no longer interested in politics, see it as an inherently unhealthy pastime, and am very disgusted at both the right and left. (media, political leadership, zeitgeist of ideas)  Trump's first two years was the last straw of a long decline in interest.

 

I was happy to see Trump win because I was hoping to see some sort of positive shock/political change but it didn't happen.  The left has largely followed the same trend and the right has become disturbing.   I am probably more liberal now (in a Zen sort of way, live and let live with absolutely no interest in modern liberal politics) than ever before due to studying psychology, spirituality, and Buddhism for the past couple of years and experiencing a sharp change in my mindset.

 

I no longer care about this country or care about any sort of vision for the future that would require a set of policies to see it to fruition.

@Cult Icon @Stromboli1 

thank you for your posts. 

You're welcome!

On 3/23/2019 at 2:29 AM, CandleVixen said:

Who thinks that our current president is going to be a one and done president?

 

I certainly say YES. 

 

He's getting a second term. For his base, the only thing that matter is that he is mean to the people they hate. As long as he keeps on doing that, they'll vote for him.

 

He wasn't wrong when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't matter.

On 1/29/2020 at 3:37 AM, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

He's getting a second term. For his base, the only thing that matter is that he is mean to the people they hate. As long as he keeps on doing that, they'll vote for him.

 

He wasn't wrong when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't matter.

 

Trump/Alt Right/Right wing are at heart, frustrated patriots/nationalists.    I am saddened to say that an army of scammers and charlatans have hook-winked millions of people.  Americans deserve better than that.

 

Interestingly enough, recently I read some of General George Patton's memos for the US 3rd Army in WW2 and they reminded me of Trump.  Patton is one of Trump's idols.  

 

However, Patton's vulgarity, sense of humor, and boasting was backed up by his own genius and the high qualities of the US Army at the time.  So there was "iron" behind his words.  He was a great cheerleader for the troops, and this was backed by well developed combat systems.

 

 

9 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Trump/Alt Right/Right wing are at heart, frustrated patriots/nationalists.    I am saddened to say that an army of scammers and charlatans have hook-winked millions of people.  Americans deserve better than that.

 

Interestingly enough, recently I read some of General George Patton's memos for the US 3rd Army in WW2 and they reminded me of Trump.  Patton is one of Trump's idols.  

 

However, Patton's vulgarity, sense of humor, and boasting was backed up by his own genius and the high qualities of the US Army at the time.  So there was "iron" behind his words.  He was a great cheerleader for the troops, and this was backed by well developed combat systems.

 

 

 

But even back then they had to reel in Patton at times. I remember the incident where he struck a soldier suffering from severe PTSD during a field hospital visit.

 

It's also why the idea of sending him to the Pacific after VE Day was nixed quickly, mostly because the joint chiefs could see that combining Patton and MacArthur would be disastrous considering the men's personalities and temperament.

 

 

12 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

But even back then they had to reel in Patton at times. I remember the incident where he struck a soldier suffering from severe PTSD during a field hospital visit.

 

It's also why the idea of sending him to the Pacific after VE Day was nixed quickly, mostly because the joint chiefs could see that combining Patton and MacArthur would be disastrous considering the men's personalities and temperament.

 

Patton's politics, personality and leadership style was somewhat mismatched for US military doctrines.  He would have been well placed in the Panzertruppe or in the Red Army's Tank forces.  His risk-reward tolerance was higher than those of the other Army commanders.  He wanted to achieve operational excellence and take bigger risks to get them- but the US military, his bosses, and US civil society was not about that.   Eisenhower favored a low risk broad front strategy. That and other political gaffs eventually suck his career and lead to his accidental death in a car accident.

 

His 4th Armored Division was a very outstanding combat formation- arguably the best US armored division of WW2.   The commander/troop trainer, Wood, was very aggressive and dynamic in maneuver warfare.

Well, this is an interesting night. 

A question to ponder, looking ahead in 4 years.  With Trump gone will a new "Alt Right" personality appear to replace him as a frontrunner or will mainstream Republicans take eventually take over?

 

Maybe another billionaire will step up

Nobody knows what Biden's program is, because Biden's program was to be against Trump.

 

Now, Biden's team can reshape their country and the world as they see fit. Their accountability will be nil, because they had no program. Not to mention that big tech (and most of the mainstream media) campaigned for them.

 

In other words, we have no idea what Bidenland's USA will be, but I can already sense that the tensions are high.

12 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

Maybe another billionaire will step up

 

Trump wasn't elected because he was a billionaire. He was elected because people were fed up with a system they didn't like (rightly or wrongly). He was liked by the people, because he was disliked by the mainstream media (again, rightly or wrongly, it's just a sociological analysis - probably a coarse one, reality is often more complex than that, but it's not very far from the truth).

 

As for billionaires, Democrats had their fair share with Bloomberg as a candidate (and Big tech, as political support).

10 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

Nobody knows what Biden's program is, because Biden's program was to be against Trump.

 

Now, Biden's team can reshape their country and the world as they see fit. Their accountability will be nil, because they had no program. Not to mention that big tech (and most of the mainstream media) campaigned for them.

 

In other words, we have no idea what Bidenland's USA will be, but I can already sense that the tensions are high.

We know what Biden's program is, he has his policies on his website. And with the recent victory speech that also gives an idea of what his program is, with fighting COVID coming first.

As for what happens to republicans after Trump, the Republicans have decided what path they want to take and its been the path of no return. Make no mistake 71 million people still voted for Trump and at worst know who they voted for, or they are indifferent and can stomach authoritarianism. Trump's ego won't accept a loss; he'll harangue about the election being stolen for 4 years and come back for round 2, and the GOP will have to either accept him in order to compete - and I think it likelier for him to win that contest - or they split the Republican vote and automatically give Dems the win. Its going to be democracy vs authoritarianism for a while, and the democratic party certainly has some work to do going forward.

27 minutes ago, Sensual said:

 Its going to be democracy vs authoritarianism for a while

 

@Enrico_sw

 

Pretty much that's what the US Trump supporter wants- a strong leader that can get things done and reverse the economic, social, and political stagnation in the US.    Basically a Putin or a Lee Kuan Yew type.  This is not historically unusual in other countries and some have been successful particularly those in East Asia.  Having Biden is not to satisfy the Trump supporter. 

 

To me the politician that was the most authoritarian in the US in recent history was Robert Moses who was the master builder of New York for several decades.  The real mystery to me is are there any genius politicians of the caliber of Lee Kuan Yew/Putin in DC?  Seems doubtful if a bunch of demented losers are all we can raise to the top.