The 2016 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show

[silverstarfish]

1 hour ago, QueensQueensQueens said:

The same thing happened with Jennifer Lawrence. She's relatable but she ain't good.... and wouldn't "no waist" be relatable? A lot of women nowadays are large with no thick,straight waists..... + How are you crying about them not being relatable but then say you want to look like a godess???

 

Goddess in the sense that models should either has the same or better proportion than regular girls, not worse. Either a square waist or short legs is fine, not both. For example, Doutzen has no waist, but everything else is top-notch. Alessandra literally has a 50/50 body. It's so noticeable when she's forced to stand beside other girls, so she's always bending her legs at the finale.

 

And it's less about me crying about these models being relatable, but more in the sense that VS wants to expand its demographic and customer base. In order to do that, they need to rapidly revamp to adapt to changing consumer tastes, i.e. to the Asia market, instead of relying on old standbys from a decade ago. Obviously, what they have been doing is not working. Adriana and Alessandra may do well in North America, but girls who look like Miranda, Elsa etc do well in China.

[BeautifulNightmare]

31 minutes ago, elfstone said:

She wants to copy Candice  

 

Thats what i was thinking lol! It's obvious that its not natural, but I cant really explain why. It just doesnt seem like her natural personality. I used to think Candices voice sounded a little silly but its not annoying and doesnt feels fake like Saras.

[almanaotemcor]

52 minutes ago, Polqu said:

 

She's the type of mature sexy woman who's hot as hell whom VS will never ever contract or cast for anything.

 

I think VS make some bad (significantly) choices with some of her models. Like someone has said before, they're trying too hard with all that "make that unknown gir a star" that doesn't work nowadays. IMO Romee's case works as an example, push her so hard, but nobody gives a fuck about her.

 

I'm going to sound typical but i think (besides I like them or not) they lost her chance to had girls with star power with some of this models: Barbara P(she had/have a huge fan base, was everywhere, etc), with (young) Irina, Rosie (let her go too soon), Maryna Linchuk (time ago when she was HF relevant) or Doutzen (specially known in Europe) Imaan (she had some extraordinary seasons, booking huge campaigns, adds diversity) Sasha Luss (HF killer seasons, edgy look) for example. And, of course most of SI girls who actually had a mature and sexy looks.

 

It is the sad truth. Now seeing it from that side I think that in these times it would not work to place a body and face beautiful as Tanya with the amount of barbarities that has left the company in that time. As long as executives do not renew for younger minds we probably will not have a chance that the firm will be relevant again as it did a few years ago. I want so much that in 2017 kick Ed, Monica and any primitive mind ... Hopefully they could make an improvement with the models and clean the house. I can think of so many models that could fit perfectly in VS (and of course, keep some of the angels we already know). So far, without Adriana or Candice the show would not even have a minimum of audience.

[star2011]

Sara has a very hyper and high pitch voice, and people give her hard time for that, so maybe she's trying to learn how to control it! Specially cause she wants to act! Not everything is about candice. Lol

[vsinside]

2 hours ago, Kevork89 said:

So there's no 1080p download up anywhere at all yet?

Nope, not from what I've seen until now.. 

[MB729]

2 hours ago, silverstarfish said:

I'm 23, and only started watching this show form 2014, when Taylor Swift performed. Last year, watched for the same reason, Gigi, and Kendall. This year, watched for Gigi, Kendall, to see how horribly awkward Bella is (LOL) and to watch The Weeknd, and most of my friends would concur.

 

Honestly, people my age just can't relate to 30 somethings who look like they're older (sorry not sorry). Lily has a huge head, why is she even a model? Alessandra and her both have the weirdest proportions, short legs and long torso. How has VS not gotten rid of them? Lily I get, since she's married to some musician, but Ale? She has shorter legs than Taylor, so how is she a model? And honestly, no one my age is attracted to Adrianna....except for guys who are into older(and manly) women perhaps. They have no waist, and I don't want to buy VS products that make me look like that. (short legs with no waist) Doutzen, who's a similar age, by contrast looks breathtakingly gorgeous, and looks like she's 27, not 40. 

 

Lady Gaga is a horrible choice for a performer. She's weird, and not mainstream at all. VS needs either a big-name performer, or balance The Weekend with performers such as A Great Big World, which performed a couple years ago, who just played the piano and sung in the background.

I'm 22 and I couldn't disagree with you more. If anything, The women that actually look like mature, sexy, adult women are the largest draw to the show for me. I don't want to see teenage-looking girls in lingerie because I'm not a teenager nor do I want to look like one or find that appealing. I'd rather aspire to look sexy, fierce, and confident like the Adriana's and Alessandra's of the show. I don't want to see a bunch of girls that look like they should be in high school classes with my little sister. 

 

As for "no one your age" being attracted Adriana... who do you know?! Genuinely curious, because I don't know a single person in my age group, regardless of gender that isn't attracted to Adriana or doesn't find her beautiful. There's a reason she was the only model in the entire lineup to trend worldwide during the show and trust me, it's not because no one's attracted to her. She's most certainly not the problem with VS. If anything, she IS Victoria's secret and she's holding them together. 

 

And say what you will about Lady Gaga but two things trended during the show: Adriana Lima and Lady Gaga. No other model, no other performer. And while Lady Gaga's new leaf she's turned may not be as popular as her music of the past (truthfully, I hate it), to say she's not "mainstream" isn't fully accurate. She's still a star in her own right, even if her light's a little dimmer now than before. She's been on a popular TV show with a cult following, she's working on a movie with Bradley Cooper, she has her own cult following, and she's a performer that actually has a genuine love and appreciation of fashion and the creativity of it. She's an entertainer through and through. 

 

VS has a lot of issues, but Adriana and Lady Gaga weren't either of them. 

[unali]

1 hour ago, almanaotemcor said:

It is the sad truth. Now seeing it from that side I think that in these times it would not work to place a body and face beautiful as Tanya with the amount of barbarities that has left the company in that time. As long as executives do not renew for younger minds we probably will not have a chance that the firm will be relevant again as it did a few years ago. I want so much that in 2017 kick Ed, Monica and any primitive mind ... Hopefully they could make an improvement with the models and clean the house. I can think of so many models that could fit perfectly in VS (and of course, keep some of the angels we already know). So far, without Adriana or Candice the show would not even have a minimum of audience.

You are right about everything, but don't get you hopes up about VS changing anything, including models. I think it is going to stay this way until show gets canceled soon and they will focus only on PINK, which brings them the most cash.

[QueensQueensQueens]

2 hours ago, silverstarfish said:

 

Goddess in the sense that models should either has the same or better proportion than regular girls, not worse. Either a square waist or short legs is fine, not both. For example, Doutzen has no waist, but everything else is top-notch. Alessandra literally has a 50/50 body. It's so noticeable when she's forced to stand beside other girls, so she's always bending her legs at the finale.

 

And it's less about me crying about these models being relatable, but more in the sense that VS wants to expand its demographic and customer base. In order to do that, they need to rapidly revamp to adapt to changing consumer tastes, i.e. to the Asia market, instead of relying on old standbys from a decade ago. Obviously, what they have been doing is not working. Adriana and Alessandra may do well in North America, but girls who look like Miranda, Elsa etc do well in China.

Now,  I understand..

[Ludivine08]

48 minutes ago, MB729 said:

I'm 22 and I couldn't disagree with you more. If anything, The women that actually look like mature, sexy, adult women are the largest draw to the show for me. I don't want to see teenage-looking girls in lingerie because I'm not a teenager nor do I want to look like one or find that appealing. I'd rather aspire to look sexy, fierce, and confident like the Adriana's and Alessandra's of the show. I don't want to see a bunch of girls that look like they should be in high school classes with my little sister. 

 

As for "no one your age" being attracted Adriana... who do you know?! Genuinely curious, because I don't know a single person in my age group, regardless of gender that isn't attracted to Adriana or doesn't find her beautiful. There's a reason she was the only model in the entire lineup to trend worldwide during the show and trust me, it's not because no one's attracted to her. She's most certainly not the problem with VS. If anything, she IS Victoria's secret and she's holding them together. 

 

And say what you will about Lady Gaga but two things trended during the show: Adriana Lima and Lady Gaga. No other model, no other performer. And while Lady Gaga's new leaf she's turned may not be as popular as her music of the past (truthfully, I hate it), to say she's not "mainstream" isn't fully accurate. She's still a star in her own right, even if her light's a little dimmer now than before. She's been on a popular TV show with a cult following, she's working on a movie with Bradley Cooper, she has her own cult following, and she's a performer that actually has a genuine love and appreciation of fashion and the creativity of it. She's an entertainer through and through. 

 

VS has a lot of issues, but Adriana and Lady Gaga weren't either of them. 

Exactly, i am 32 but the majority of my friends are younger who are early twenties or mid twenties and say they think Adriana is really beautiful and hot, and some say she isn't that beautiful anymore do think that about the young Adriana. 

 

Personally I think Adriana should leave VS, she had her days and they were good, but you should stop when its time. Also the show definately changed and feel she doens't fit in anymore. A model like Sara Sampaio could really be a similar angel that Adriana used to be. 

[Ludivine08]

2 hours ago, silverstarfish said:

 

Goddess in the sense that models should either has the same or better proportion than regular girls, not worse. Either a square waist or short legs is fine, not both. For example, Doutzen has no waist, but everything else is top-notch. Alessandra literally has a 50/50 body. It's so noticeable when she's forced to stand beside other girls, so she's always bending her legs at the finale.

 

And it's less about me crying about these models being relatable, but more in the sense that VS wants to expand its demographic and customer base. In order to do that, they need to rapidly revamp to adapt to changing consumer tastes, i.e. to the Asia market, instead of relying on old standbys from a decade ago. Obviously, what they have been doing is not working. Adriana and Alessandra may do well in North America, but girls who look like Miranda, Elsa etc do well in China.

I believe they always had diversity, if not the last years even more with Asian models?

 

The problem with Alessandra's body: she probably heard that all her life but somehow became supermodel, just the way Kate Moss was way to short.

 

The models are close to perfection but its difficult to have it all, like long legs, small waist, curvy + skinny. 

[peroxideblonde]

there are many models i don't like but at least they're good on the runway

and then there's Kendull, she was the worst

[coolboy]

The ratings were worse than last year

[Ludivine08]

25 minutes ago, peroxideblonde said:

there are many models i don't like but at least they're good on the runway

and then there's Kendull, she was the worst

Kendull ? LOL

[peroxideblonde]

Just now, Ludivine08 said:

Kendull ? LOL

yes you never heard of it? it's her new nickname

[Ludivine08]

No I didn't, but I wasn't on social media/forums/celebrity talk/ general media for a long time so that explains it I think. 

 

[bump]

I watched TRA just for Elsa's opening and I'm actually not disappointed. I really like Elsa, she's one of my favorites but I thought her opening was going to be horrible, just plain out fucked up because of the dragon...but she did awesome!!! and U2!!! I like U2 a lot!!!

 

My favorite segment ever was Miranda opening PINK in 2007 I think it was because of the song LOL it was "Get Free" by The Vines...

 

I also loved the Circus one from 2012 I think because of the music, I'm not a huge fan of The Doors or Billy Idol, but I loved that mash up. I want more mash ups!!!

[Ludivine08]

'' I want to eat a bucket of ice-cream and look at the models flawless bodies and feel zero self-esteem. And then feel inspired or motivated by then(it will on last a couple of days). ''

OMG so true. 

You're right, you want the heavenly unattainable model on the runway. 

Cute and bubbly is good for the PINK segment, as long as it doesn't spread out to alllll the segments.