18 minutes ago, summerc said:

I know you and I have had some disagreements on this topic, but nonetheless it's been fun discussing and speculating with you and others 😅

What do you think the chances are Joan was Deuxmoi's "source"? She probably didn't think the real timeline would be revealed.

I wish Candice would choose better men, and in some cases better friends, for herself, but I'm most thankful my initial thought that Candice wasn't the villain in all this was correct.

I wonder what Joan's thought process is that hooking up with a freshly divorced man while he's also hooking up with your friend is okay, but your other friend dating him two years later is the ultimate betrayal? It really feels like Joan is the "BACKSTABBER". Maybe she was always looking for a reason to turn on Candice.

Joan being the source for the tip in July? I'm not sure, there were a lot of influencer type people at the White Party, but maybe, how would they know that Candice and Tom were going to go public right? It had to be someone kind of in their orbit

I also wish she would choose better men, I'm like sis, what are you doing 🙄

I don't know about her friend group, she seemed really close with that whole Joan crew, weird Bravin seems distant, sad Gita seems distant, she probably has a lot of friends we know nothing about too

I thought it seemed so out of character, that she would steal Joan's man, but Joan was being so aggressive about it, I thought maybe it's true [...] I can not believe she took this path over [...] she had on and off two years ago, I don't think that's a sane thing to do, could she be hurt, yeah, of course, but being so aggressive about it, WEIRD

I also think that's crazy, how Joan was so buddy buddy with Irina at VSFS 2026, if she and Irina were sleeping with Tom around the same time, or an even closer period of time than Candice did

I've said this in a couple posts, but Joan always seemed to be the one more into the friendship, personality wise they just seem so different, but I've been in those types of situations before, where you kind of just go along to get along with this person so different than you, because you have history with them, and they're not SUPER problematic, rather than say how you really feel,

I might be wrong about this, but I feel like, Candice only really got close to Joan around 2020??? Am I mistaken, have they always been close, in old Candice photos, I feel like Behati and Doutzen were her closest model friends

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8 hours ago, summerc said:

+1. Tom is the town bicycle. There's a misogynistic undertone to it all, and the worst part is Joan is playing to that crowd, too.

I think Candice will come out of this just fine. She's maintained her composure through it all, while Joan looks like an immature, petty teenager trying to start drama over an on/off fling two years in the past.

I saw a theory that Ali was helping Joan to book jobs... it would explain why Candice + Joan did the Elie Saab show and Anne Klein campaign together. Maybe Joan was upset she didn't book the Gucci show in NY? Whatever it is, I don't think we'll ever know. It seems Joan doesn't want us to know, and Candice is holding back out of respect for their former friendship.

If Tom distancing himself from Candice is what it takes for this to be over... so be it. I will say, though, it's possible Candice wanted something serious, but she'll change her mind in light of this drama. I just hope this ends soon.

Joan obviously likes the attention, but given the new information that's come to light... is there much else Joan can do/say besides post shady stories?

An insider close to Tom saying he doesn't like the drama and wants to distance himself, sounds like a polite way of saying he and Candice won't last much longer.

Hopefully what we've all learned is anything Joan says should be taken with a grain of salt. She's clearly not an okay person.

But for the Elie Saab show in Paris, Candice didn't thank Ali and The Lions. She thanked Joan's management. Itis an interesting theory though. I think things have been going on for a lot longer than a few months between Candice and Tom. He followed Ali in like February. They may have been flirty with each other prior to getting together. They did the Gucci cruise show together in May.

Candice knew to be careful from the start. They never followed each other on Instagram, and she didn't do her usual thing where she likes posts of the guy she's with.

I will say that I am surprised that everyone in the friend group, except Eduardo, has sided with Joan when they know what truly happened. There's probably more to the story we don't know about.

42 minutes ago, db92 said:

But for the Elie Saab show in Paris, Candice didn't thank Ali and The Lions. She thanked Joan's management. Itis an interesting theory though. I think things have been going on for a lot longer than a few months between Candice and Tom. He followed Ali in like February. They may have been flirty with each other prior to getting together. They did the Gucci cruise show together in May.

Candice knew to be careful from the start. They never followed each other on Instagram, and she didn't do her usual thing where she likes posts of the guy she's with.

I will say that I am surprised that everyone in the friend group, except Eduardo, has sided with Joan when they know what truly happened. There's probably more to the story we don't know about.

There is 100% more To this. That’s obvious. We will never know all of it cause it involves things that happened or were said in their private lives.

I obviously am on Candice’s side here [...] but I think it’s still too premature to just assume Candice is fully clear of wrongdoing here. I hope she is and want her to be but I’m prepared for another shoe to drop with leaked text messages or something.

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1 minute ago, Westside said:

I honesty don’t think she’s into him. The only thing he has going is that he has fame and money which is appealing to her. I always thought she was going to end up with a Latin man since that’s what she’s into. At this point, Joan should just say what truly happened and close this chapter of her life and move on.

The same as Candice. All this liking posts and being shady ain’t helping either of the

18 minutes ago, MERPER said:

There is 100% more To this. That’s obvious. We will never know all of it cause it involves things that happened or were said in their private lives.

I obviously am on Candice’s side here and think John is borderline psychotic but I think it’s still too premature to just assume Candice is fully clear of wrongdoing here. I hope she is and want her to be but I’m prepared for another shoe to drop with leaked text messages or something.

I agree, I’m not fully clearing Candice out of this just yet. I feel both Candice and tom are to blame here. Tom is probably the only one enjoying the drama. He’s life has always been drama, first he leaves his pregnant girlfriend for Gisele, then he takes his football career more seriously than his marriage which results in a divorce, and now the Joan/candice drama. Joan ain’t going to stop until everything gets fully revealed and I’m up for it. I’m also waiting to hear from Candice story but I don’t think she’s going to be giving any. By Candice reps not confirming or denying her and Tom’s relationship is giving not serious and just sleeping with each other. Ali, Candice agent is just using this because it bringing more spotlight to Candice but not the good kind.

Regardless of what Candice may or may not have done, I think she has handled the situation well. Judging by the "likes" she left on certain posts, it seems she is furious, though I don’t expect her to react in a rash or impulsive way. I am certain she is receiving sound advice from her representatives. Once the intensity and drama subside a bit, she will likely issue a formal statement via Instagram. I see her distancing herself from Joan’s drama—primarily to clarify matters regarding her own private life—and I don’t believe she will go after Joan in any way.

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Candice’s mom liked this..

26 minutes ago, db92 said:

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Candice’s mom liked this..

Her mom did the same with Andres. She followed him. I guess it might be true after all.

4 minutes ago, Westside said:

Her mom did the same with Andres. She followed him. I guess it might be true after all.

Eileen followed Andres before all that and still follows him just like Pietro's family still follows Candice and also Andres' sister follows her.

1 minute ago, Westside said:

Her mom did the same with Andres. She followed him. I guess it might be true after all.

And she also did the same with pietro too. Candice really has to have a talk with her mom. Idk how true it is, but supposedly now they are saying tom does not want anything serious and does not want to go public whereas Candice does. I can 100% see tom ending this with Candice.

The Tom Brady store will open in December 2026 in Miami, and Candice will probably bring.

It wouldn't surprise me that deuxmoi "source" is Joan. And it also doesn't surprise me them taking her side of Joan was the first and the only one to run their mouths to them just like she was the only one running her mouth on social media. Also, no one knew about her and Tom, no one cares either, so should had the most to win, she gets attention, her story with that man out and gets everyone on Candice's throat so her bitterness could be fulfilled.

1 hour ago, Westside said:

And she also did the same with pietro too. Candice really has to have a talk with her mom. Idk how true it is, but supposedly now they are saying tom does not want anything serious and does not want to go public whereas Candice does. I can 100% see tom ending this with Candice.

I don't remember Eileen following Pietro, especially since people was targeting her and Candice leaking her home address and tagging Eileen in photos of Pietro calling him gay and saying he was using Candice as cover up while claiming him being around gays was proof of his homosexuality

1 hour ago, Paul Fernandes said:

The Tom Brady store will open in December 2026 in Miami, and Candice will probably bring.

This is not happening knowing Candice, she'd probably go to South Africa for Holidays and skip Basel again

1 hour ago, medicenevs said:

It wouldn't surprise me that deuxmoi "source" is Joan. And it also doesn't surprise me them taking her side of Joan was the first and the only one to run their mouths to them just like she was the only one running her mouth on social media. Also, no one knew about her and Tom, no one cares either, so should had the most to win, she gets attention, her story with that man out and gets everyone on Candice's throat so her bitterness could be fulfilled.

I definitely see it this way, either her or her manager Kyle. They should check her management only having one client and no portafolio available, for a model that's suspicious.

11 minutes ago, MissPadilla said:

I don't remember Eileen following Pietro, especially since people was targeting her and Candice leaking her home address and tagging Eileen in photos of Pietro calling him gay and saying he was using Candice as cover up while claiming him being around gays was proof of his homosexuality

She didn’t follow pietro. In a Halloween party she commented and liked comments that were calling them a couple. But the comment she made was deleted

14 minutes ago, MissPadilla said:

This is not happening knowing Candice, she'd probably go to South Africa for Holidays and skip Basel again

If they announce they are in a relationship, she’ll probably go. Otherwise, I also dont see her attending it. She also does something for tropic of c during the art basal. I dont know if she did something last year.

It’s so funny watching people lose their shit over this on Twitter and no realize it’s fake. Got a good laugh, thought I would pass it on.

16 minutes ago, RIP_Cabrini_Green said:

It’s so funny watching people lose their shit over this on Twitter and no realize it’s fake. Got a good laugh, thought I would pass it on.

Idk how people cannot tell it’s fake. There’s also some AI pictures of both tom and Candice on his boat and people are losing their minds. They haven’t even announce they are together. This is based on a source (Joan). Giselle at this point don’t care who tom sleeps with, she’s happily married.

11 hours ago, MERPER said:

There is 100% more To this. That’s obvious. We will never know all of it cause it involves things that happened or were said in their private lives.

I obviously am on Candice’s side here and think John is borderline psychotic but I think it’s still too premature to just assume Candice is fully clear of wrongdoing here. I hope she is and want her to be but I’m prepared for another shoe to drop with leaked text messages or something.

I'm sure Joan is going to wait until Candice has some big moment to drop something so that it gets maximum coverage.

9 hours ago, almanaotemcor said:

Regardless of what Candice may or may not have done, I think she has handled the situation well. Judging by the "likes" she left on certain posts, it seems she is furious, though I don’t expect her to react in a rash or impulsive way. I am certain she is receiving sound advice from her representatives. Once the intensity and drama subside a bit, she will likely issue a formal statement via Instagram. I see her distancing herself from Joan’s drama—primarily to clarify matters regarding her own private life—and I don’t believe she will go after Joan in any way.

I don't think she'll say anything at all especially if they end things. She'll want it to go away quickly.

3 hours ago, Westside said:

And she also did the same with pietro too. Candice really has to have a talk with her mom. Idk how true it is, but supposedly now they are saying tom does not want anything serious and does not want to go public whereas Candice does. I can 100% see tom ending this with Candice.

It's the first Tom-Candice post I've seen her like so I guess we'll have to see. Her mom is an interesting one.

Yeah, there's an article in the daily mail saying he's happy with how things are and doesn't want to put a label on anything while Candice wants to be more open and serious which I find surprising. Tom likes women thinking he's a bachelor. He isn't ready to settle down again.

6 minutes ago, db92 said:

I'm sure Joan is going to wait until Candice has some big moment to drop something so that it gets maximum coverage.

I don't think she'll say anything at all especially if they end things. She'll want it to go away quickly.

It's the first Tom-Candice post I've seen her like so I guess we'll have to see.

Yeah, there's an article in the daily mail saying he's happy with how things are and doesn't want to put a label on anything while Candice wants to be more open and serious which I find surprising. Tom likes women thinking he's a bachelor. He isn't ready to settle down again.

Seeing how he put his FOOTBALL CAREER first than his family. I can see him not wanting a serious relationship. He is enjoying his bachelor status