7 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

oh my how the tables have turned LOL

 

 

The thing I don't get about January 6th is the GOP presenting itself as the law and order party but apparently also being alright with a mob storming the seat of power? You cannot have it both ways. "Violence and riots are bad, except when it's our supporters doing it, then it's fine." is not a law & order position.

^

It's politics, it's not supposed to make any sense!

 

Trump doesn't want to come back to twitter.

 

I think it will be at his loss.  Elon will certainly give him a lot of freedom to project soft power.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

oh my how the tables have turned LOL

 

 

What she says is at least very biased and close to wrong:

- "used it to incite an insurrection": there's at least a debate around that.

- "multiple people died" / 5 people died including 4 Trump supporters (one shot by the police, three "natural causes") and one police officer whose death was later classified as "natural" (source).

- "the VP was nearly assassinated": there was a pipe b*mb close to the DNC but the police haven't found the perpetrator yet and haven't established a link with the Capitol events yet.

- "hundreds were injured": true. At least one thing is

 

It doesn't mean that what happened wasn't terrible, but facts matter #factsmatter.

According to AOC, should Maxine Waters be on Twitter, then?

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Maxine Waters encourages supporters to harass Trump administration

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/maxine-waters-trump-officials/index.html

 

3 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

The thing I don't get about January 6th is the GOP presenting itself as the law and order party but apparently also being alright with a mob storming the seat of power? You cannot have it both ways. "Violence and riots are bad, except when it's our supporters doing it, then it's fine." is not a law & order position.

 

"It's OK when we do it" seems to be the speciality of the DNC. Remember the "summer of love" in 2020. 19+ people got killed, there were looting, burning during months. Entire areas were occupied by thugs for months.

 

But the DNC and its allies in the media said this was mostly peaceful.

1 hour ago, Cult Icon said:

^

It's politics, it's not supposed to make any sense!

 

Trump doesn't want to come back to twitter.

 

I think it will be at his loss.  Elon will certainly give him a lot of freedom to project soft power.

 

Politics doesn't make any sense.

 

Trump won't win in 2024.

 

The US is too far gone in left wing extremism. 

 

It's just my opinion (maybe I'm wrong).

13 hours ago, Stromboli1 said:

He's back, cue the screeching soy boys.

 

 

 

 

 

How many people have voted for this? I can't see the result on twitter.

5 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

"It's OK when we do it" seems to be the speciality of the DNC. Remember the "summer of love" in 2020. 19+ people got killed, there were looting, burning during months. Entire areas were occupied by thugs for months.

 

But the DNC and its allies in the media said this was mostly peaceful.

 

Here's a crazy notion: perhaps looting and burning down cities is bad and storming the capitol is bad too?

 

My point is more that you cannot complain about one and then just claim the other is fine or justified. Either you are against violence and property destruction or you are in favor of it.

Just now, SympathysSilhouette said:

Here's a crazy notion: perhaps looting and burning down cities is bad and storming the capitol is bad too?

 

Yes I agree with that.

 

Just now, SympathysSilhouette said:

My point is more that you cannot complain about one and then just claim the other is fine or justified. Either you are against violence and property destruction or you are in favor of it.

 

I agree with that too. This message should also be sent to the DNC.

5 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

Politics doesn't make any sense.

 

Trump won't win in 2024.

 

The US is too far gone in left wing extremism. 

 

It's just my opinion (maybe I'm wrong).

 

I think Trump has a far better chance than DeSantis, who the GOP seems to be rallying around to get rid of Trump.

For one thing his national profile is already far bigger. And DeSantis always seems small to me when asked to operate outside of his Florida safe haven.

I think the GOP hopes that Trump won't run so they can go with the safer candidate. But I think DeSantis is actually the weaker candidate by far. Just someone more willing to work with the old party hierarchy, like Mitch McConnell. Trump is more of a maverick and those guys don't like that.

2 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

My point is more that you cannot complain about one and then just claim the other is fine or justified. Either you are against violence and property destruction or you are in favor of it.

 

1 minute ago, Enrico_sw said:

I agree with that too. This message should also be sent to the DNC.

 

 

I will add another point.

 

Either you censor all the "hatemongers" (that includes Maxine Waters, BLM, etc.) or you censor no one.

 

A one-sided twitter  was a danger to democracy.

I think DeSantis would be a weaker candidate for the GOP than Mitt Romney even was.

But it seems Trump has become persona no grata for a lot of the older GOP leadership.

Just now, Enrico_sw said:

 

 

 

I will add another point.

 

Either you censor all the "hatemongers" (that includes Maxine Waters, BLM, etc.) or you censor no one.

 

A one-sided twitter  was a danger to democracy.

 

Musk still claims he hasn't changed anything about content moderation. I have no idea if that is true or not.

I don't want to defend the guy all day, but that's what he said on Jan 6th.

 

It doesn't seem pro-violence to me

 

13 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Musk still claims he hasn't changed anything about content moderation. I have no idea if that is true or not.

 

Twitter is still a huge mystery but at least it "seems" a bit less biased today.

23 hours ago, Stromboli1 said:

 

 

I'm browsing the internet to see the reactions among people and it seems split between two extremes (like often):

- those who say FIFA has sold its ass for money

- those who say Europe is a mean place (which is factually wrong)

 

Even some Europeans defend this idea that Europe (and all white people) are bad (which is racist, but well...). If you look at history, this is nonsense. There has been colonisation, slavery and racism in many places.

 

North Africa seems to be a contentious subject. When some ppl tell them that North Africa was Berber, then was colonised by the Arabs, then colonised by Turkey for 400 years, then France for only one century, they just don't know it or are angry you tell them the truth.

4 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

The thing I will never understand is people giving their money to these folks.

 

Me too. Let's say that people are surprising sometimes

12 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

I don't want to defend the guy all day, but that's what he said on Jan 6th.

 

It doesn't seem pro-violence to me

 

 

I'm not talking about Donald, I'm talking about a lot of the media personalities and GOP politicians who have since tried to minimize what happened that day.

1 minute ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

I'm browsing the internet to see the reactions among people and it seems split between two extremes (like often):

- those who say FIFA has sold its ass for money

- those who say Europe is a mean place (which is factually wrong)

 

Even some Europeans defend this idea that Europe (and all white people) are bad (which is racist, but well...). If you look at history, this is nonsense. There has been colonisation, slavery and racism in many places.

 

North Africa seems to be a contentious subject. When some ppl tell them that North Africa was Berber, then was colonised by the Arabs, then colonised by Turkey for 400 years, then France for only one century, they just don't know it or are angry you tell them the truth.

 

Infantino is full of shit. He does not care about colonialism, he just wants people in Europe and the U.S. to shut up about the barbaric treatment of migrant workers by Qatar.

That's it. He is a cynical little man.

 

I just wish the U.S. AG office had actually pursued its FIFA investigation instead of shutting it down in exchange of the U.S./Mexico/Canada being awarded the 2026 WC.

It's pretty clear there are still a lot of people at FIFA who should really be in jail right now.

6 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Infantino is full of shit. He does not care about colonialism, he just wants people in Europe and the U.S. to shut up about the barbaric treatment of migrant workers by Qatar.

That's it. He is a cynical little man.

 

I just wish the U.S. AG office had actually pursued its FIFA investigation instead of shutting it down in exchange of the U.S./Mexico/Canada being awarded the 2026 WC.

It's pretty clear there are still a lot of people at FIFA who should really be in jail right now.

 

Yep, I agree. A 100%.

 

Sepp Blatter was a big crook as well.