Joe > Average

Beauty: Angela 16, Abbey Lee 7 Body: Angela 19, Abbey Lee 4 Sexiness: Angela 20.5, 2.5 Winner: Angela Lindvall Alessandra Ambrossio vs. Fernanda Tevares Beauty: Fernanda 13, Alessandra 12 Body: Fernanda 14.5, Alessandra 10 Sexiness: Fernanda 12, Alessandra 12 :| Winner: Fernanda Tevares Chanel Iman vs. Naomi Campbell Beauty: Chanel 15.5, Naomi 11.5 Body: Naomi 20, Chanel 7 Sexiness: Naomi 18, Chanel 9 Winner: Naomi Campbell (post in progress...)

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Two different industries . The controversy over thinspiration (no offense) is part of the reason fashion became so estranged from the mainstreem market to start with. There's really no need for endless debates about the fall of the supermodel, they basically just alienated the mainstreem market and celebs filled the void. Only fashion is a unique industry in that out of a combination of pride and self sufficiency refuse to even pretend to act based on compliance with mainstreem ideals the way the film, music ect. industries do. The fashion industry heads know that no matter what they choose to do their fans will adapt and accept it whatever it may be so they are all about their own agenda. Its not so easy in the film and music industries because while you have an agenda like all businesses do you still endlessly seek to comply with and please the mainstreem and their trends and ideals. So thus "too thin" for an actress is a different standard as a result.

She was smashable alright back in the Mean Girls days . She's not physically appealing now so much because of her issues, but my problem is more with the media's obsessive coverage than Lindsay herself .

That's good . I must admit even as a fan I'm guilty of agreeing with them myself . I doubt it would turn the heads of most people on its own if she were an everyday person, BUT that her personality makes it endearing and makes the most out of it. But I don't see average is an insult but it obviously is used as an insult depending on the text. "great body, but averave face" gives a negative connotation to the word average despite the fact that most people are average, that's why its average. It also makes the compliment even to the body nullified because its just used as a vehicle to diss the face. But on that same token, there are models who say they were considered below average beauties in school and because their face is considered "edgy" ironically enough they are able to have success and even be interpreted as beautiful to some. So if she had an average body she would more than likely find herself not pretty enough for commercial and not ugly or unique enough for high fashion and have had to knock out some of her teeth to make it as a model. So a model with a worse face and body is less likely to be ridiculed, so its all very interresting .

Well...keep me updated !

Same NA - 4 . She's cute, I love her on the show and there's just something about her I find comforting, refereshing and pleasant . Its also funny (gets umbrella for stones) how fashion fans of course say how models should have all the cosmetic commercials back like the used to ect. but its funny since most people I know don't know models when they see people like Halle Berry, Freida Pinto, Evangeline Lily...on cosmetic commercials and compare them to the models, they don't know the difference . I would have done it a long time ago myself because more women relate to actresses and singers than models. Its just great business (gets bigger umbrella). Sure its unfair in a way because the actresses/singers ect. have what they already had plus more while the models lose, but on the positive side the increased emphasis on looks over substance opens more doors than ever for models to act at least . And then even better you get a middle aged actress like Andie McDowell, Halle Berry ect. to target the women with the most money (middle aged and up) and its just pure marketing gold . NA - 4

Renee x3

I share the sentiments of surprise at the GaGa thing. I don't particularly dislike her, but there's obviously 100+ hotter celebs out there. I must say in a way I'm even more surprised about Krisetn Stewart . 1. Because she's popular for Twilight, which isn't popular with the Men's Mag crowd I don't think . 2. she doesn't come off as even trying to be sexy and I don't even know whether she thinks of herself that way. And 3. I can't think of a more average looking actress (not that that's bad). Of course there are some worse looking, but she's about as average as they come. There's probably at least 10 or more Kristens in every high school classroom in America. That said, I do like her because her demeanor combined with her averageness just puts me in the mind of the thick and thin friend at school and that makes me feel kindof warm and fuzzy .

Beauty: Adriana - as a side note, its funny when I was finding those pics I was amazed how many smiling candids there were. Its amazing some have such nice smiles that don't smile in their work . Body: Marisa :brows: two of the best in fashion Sexiness: Adriana, Large and in charge. Or tall glass of water as some say down here. Very tall and also a very natural, confident, womanly sultriness .

:shock: :shock: :shock: I was in a hurry and guess I typred backwards accidentally :| . But I guess I shouldn't be surprised you're the only one to pic that up . Estella wins...but 4 votes needed... Thanks to Chocolate for blocking . (Team SI, Marisa Miller, Pictures by Me) (Team VS, Adriana Karembeu, Pictures by Me)

Thanks for the vids . And yeah, I put 1.5 each because it took me a really long time clicking throught the links and on those I couldn't decide and then I had to go . But I guess since the round is still up I can decide :| .

I go bafroom all by myself .

Ladies... :| Ummm... 1. If a name is spelled wrong all one needs to do is tell a moderator . 2. Merging threads is nothing personal, its just that we have to pay for the space so it makes no sense to have more than one thread per person . Regardless of who starts the thread, everyone who contributes is important .

@ you guys New song with Will Smith's son :|

Interresting that Marie Ange is doing better against Laetitia than Tori Praver is against Doutzen <_< .

She's cute, I like the modesty of her smile .

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NA - 2 Thanks for the info lisa .

We (maddog specifically) are working on some technological updates actually. I'll put a word in. In the mean time, I started a "thank you" thread in Milestones and Hospitality for thanking people for what they do. You can thank those who's contributions you appreciate the most there in the mean time . That said, I remember two members that didn't post pics much (The Joker and irenistiq) and I wouldn't trade their one liners for all the scans in Vogue, but in light of the whole, the sentiment is understandable of course .

96x3 - Would have taken it for Tyra alone, but she's got a nice buddy so its double the fun. Plus I would have chosen a different pic for Petra's cover because her bosom looks hard as stone there, especially for a non-muscled woman. *edit* WTH its over :shock: ? I missed most of it :| . But congrats on job well done Roxanne .

Wow, I didn't know she had a cover, please post it in her thread !

Yeah, those Eastern Canadians sorry, couldn't resist . Family member who's a fan still has 0 votes :persuazn: !!!