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Well, not general looks but body looks for the premise of putting everyone on roughly the same page (judged on the merit of the body). As to the some may think they look better with a tatoo, I'm sure most people think a person they think is pretty with a nice body looks better than someone they think is a butterface, but that still has no bearing on the direction we're going. I know you're well-meaning so I'm going to restrain myself from comical/sarcastic analogies and just limit it down to, I respect your opinion, but in all due respect this is a non issue to me . I won't refuse a mostly tatted person, but if a tat can be easily avoided on a person with one distinctive one that isn't generally visible anyway, I will. Though I must say in the whole last comp I didn't see one tat anyway.

The scoring is over (unless for fyi), but thanks . Glad you like though the head covering was originally Stamaholic's idea . I don't think that would be fair. If they change what they look like by getting tattoos shouldn't the pictures show how they actually look with the tattoos? I'm not understanding that on 3 different levels . I guess I win , but its one of those ungratifying victories like the guy that wins the argument with his lady and gets no action as a result . Thanks, I'll definitely try that . And to all in general, I was meaning to say even if everyone isn't fooled necessarily, just focusing on the bodies alone for comparissons in and of itself I think will make it more competitive.

Was just curious what you and Ophelia thought .

Since some never really learn how to connect with the camera with intensity and she has already I'm sure she should be fine .

I always thought it would be nice to have a subsection for one of the two (competitions or polls) and then both sides would probably be served .

+1 Also, cool, had never seen an Eskimo model before .

Love Daria as an editorial and her's is respectable, but Ylia x3 , just has a swagger and smoothness that stands out more .

Christy Turlington x3 1.5 Each Adriana Lima x2, Karen Mulder x1 Candice Boucher x3

4.5 one of my 3 favorite up and comers .

Oluchi x3 Gisele x2 Best Song of the 00s

And I'd like to say you're nice and funny and your commentary is always funny or interresting, congrats Ana'sBFF !!!

+1 As a side note, Barbara looks so young . People say Miranda looks young but she always looked more like a 16 with a 12 year old face to me where as this one looks literally like a little girl. That gif vanessaa had was cute though.

Thread Edited... AGAIN, model threads are not a place for bashing or baiting. And to break it down more specifically, people here just want pics and videos anyway, so random gossip about non-work related things, especially delivered in the negative light that it has been, only serves as baiting (baiting of course being against the rules). Once you know what the outcome of said statements is, it becomes baiting even moreso. The negative vibe that now surrounds this once peaceful thread is chasing members away and that's not good. To break it down even moreso, the Bar thread is finally kindof sortof under control and we (the staff) refuse to have another one . So a 2-3 (or more) month suspension will follow my next speech of this kind in this thread, please don't make it come to that .

Done. Still need the other half of your links Oh, I didn't see the rules and assumed it was just cover versions 1 vs. 1 . Okay, in light of that I added the original's videos and unnominated some as I was already trying to decide which spots to give to Layla and BabyJude but that just took care of itself .

Dioni, no ! Not that she was the best, but she wasn't the worst and I was hoping she'd stay around longer, but she fought well I guess . Petra Nemcova x3 Cindy Crawford x3 ............................................. 1.5 Each Emily Didonato x3

This lip thing reminds me of Wheatley (who ironically has more masculine bone structure too). Not that I hate her, nor would I call her ugly (but then I wouldn't call anyone ugly in general because I was called 'fat' as a kid before I started football at least), but that just brought her to mind, please don't be mad , but its just like you set me up for an alley oop (for non basketball viewers alley oop - when a player tosses the ball up for another player to catch and dunk when the defense if off guard. The play is seldom stopped once more than halfway executed, but can be avoided by blocking out (Joe Sports Dictionary). Ironically there's more than a few models around here either I or people in my family and friends have met that most here would say the same about if they knew , *sings Nobody knows the troubles I've seen...* only models just don't have visibility now so their 'bitchiness' is unknown and irrelevant to the general public. If you can summon the gumption to smile and giggle in a couple interviews (PR's gold) you can get the 'wow and she's nice too' and most won't know the difference and more than a few are better off for it. That is of course not to say the crimes we know are excusable because there are crimes we don't know, as I've been hit with both a phone and even a lamp myself by my ex, I just threw that out because it came to me .

I was gonna add that one myself, but would you believe I couldn't find the Dylan version on YouTube anywhere? Maybe you can have better luck finding it? There was a version on there a couple years ago, but they took it down and now its mostly 'my cousin singing All Along the Watchtower, tell me what you think' ect. . There's a guitar hero version on there I think though . Well yeah, I guess the names and spellings are inevitable , but that's partially because I refuse to look it up to correct beforehand because if it was regular conversation I wouldn't be able to so it seems like cheating/not the real me . If I have to have the same embarassment online as in real life then its worth it just for that . And yeah, the original song's called "Crossroad Blues" but the remake is called "Crossroads" proably because it isn't a blues version . Thanks for the Levee info and although I knew about The Miracle's version (like the Gladys version) but thosre are ironically among my least, if not absolute least favorite songs by them by far and the Marvin version is by far my favorite version in general. Speaking of Smokey, can I replace "I Will Always Love You" with "Who's Lovin You" by The Jackson 5? I don't really like "I Will Always Love You" but just thought it was worth a mention since its one of the best and mos successful, but if I could make the switch it would be nice .

THIRD PRELIMINARY ROUND, LOT 2 OF 3: 9 Linda Evangelista 10 Lucia Dvorska 11 Megan Ewing 12 Rebecca Romijn 13 Christy Turlington 14 Claudia Schiffer 15 Jennifer Lamiraqui 16 Chanel Celaya THIRD PRELIMINARY ROUND, LOT 1 OF 3: 1 Paulina Porizkova - prefer Mila though... 2 Chanel Iman 3 Adriana Lima 4 Almudena Fernandez 5 Selita Ebanks 6 1.5 7 Olga Kurylenko 8 Bar Refaeli

Wow, I would have lost money betting you were going to say, "I don't get Erin's appeal at all, there's hundreds of thousands of girls that look like that" or something like that . But she could model really well before VS .

"odd hard round ones" Yeah...I always wondered if those hurt . But anyway, I have breast implants myself, pectoralis major muscle injections that is . Well, not really, I think someone just had an outie shrunk or something and a distant cousin had a unibrow plucked, but just didn't want to be left out I guess .

19. All Along The Watchtower - Jimmi Hendrix (original by Bob Dylan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuxJH2Mj30 20. Crossroads - Cream (Original by Robert Jordan) 21. Heard it Through the Grapevine - Marvin Gaye (Original by CCR) 22. Beyonce the Sea - Bobby Darin (Original by Roger Williams) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoCrD88RP4 23. Whe the Leveee Breaks - Led Zeppelin (Original by Robert Jordan) 24. With a Little Help From My Friends - Joe Cocker (Original by The Beatles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYDvQ1HH-E 25. Proud Mary - Ike & Tina Turner (Original by CCR) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoE0d8REr_M 26. Who's Loving You - The Jackson 5 (Original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles) 27. Respect - Aretha Franklin (Original by Otis Redding) 28. Twist and Shout - The Beatles (Original by The Isley Brothers) 29. Rockin' Robin - The Jackson 5 (Original by Bobby Day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5aXRefKRdQ 30. You Shook Me - Led Zeppelin (Original by Earl Hooker and Muddy Watters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHb2D2V4x3k *edit* All Along The Watchtower - Jimmi Hendrix (original by Bob Dylan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuxJH2Mj30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igE_N6gegfg Heard it Through the Grapevine - Marvin Gaye (Original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles) Beyonce the Sea - Bobby Darin (Original by Roger Williams) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoCrD88RP4 With a Little Help From My Friends - Joe Cocker (Original by The Beatles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYDvQ1HH-E Proud Mary - Ike & Tina Turner (Original by CCR) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoE0d8REr_M Who's Loving You - The Jackson 5 (Original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles) (starts 00:50) Respect - Aretha Franklin (Original by Otis Redding) Twist and Shout - The Beatles (Original by The Isley Brothers) Rockin' Robin - The Jackson 5 (Original by Bobby Day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5aXRefKRdQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmBmD3s-R9s

5 - most beautiful so far to me . Combination of cat eyes, great profile, high cheekbones, amazing lips and smile . Nice body for a model and great model in general and about 20 years into her career in those pics and still holding her own . Her and Tyra are my favorites in the comp in general .

1. Zoe Saldana (1) 2. Thandie Newton (5) 4. Beyonce Knowles (5) 7. Liya Kebede (9) 8. Tyra Banks (4) 9. Noemie Lenoir (3) 10. Emanuela De Paula (5)

Kiki's on a mission . I guess I'll help :morning: . 1. Zoe Saldana (3) 2. Thandie Newton (5) 4. Beyonce Knowles (5) 7. Liya Kebede (9) 8. Tyra Banks (5) 9. Noemie Lenoir (3) 10. Emanuela De Paula (5)

I wanna try this again . For one, just curious to see the different results of A) some different voters and B) the same voters after a bit of time and C) the difference in person vs. person as in person vs. person all votes are equal so the dynamics are different (a 3-5 has more power than a 9 or 10 whereas a x3 is a x3). But the way I want to go is... 1. 5 vs. 5 per round 2. Faces covered (if even 40% doesn't recognize them it serves purpose enough for the experiment ). And even if you do recognize them focusing on body only should add at least a slightly different perspective... 3. I'll get some pics together slowly, but anyone can feel free to nominate casually. 4. Most importantly because of the face covering thing, all nominations must be done through pm only . 5. To nominate you need 10 pics with all major angles shown (for the benefit of those that don't know them or know them well). 6. The person who has the best win/loss record wins . 7. I don't have 1 and 7 totally figured out actually, but that's just where I am .