hm...I love VS shows, they´re always special and full of energy, and beautiful women in amazing outfits you know, it´s not like usual runways, where the only thing you can see are skinny models looking like this

It´s a real SHOW, and I can´t see nothing wrong there. USA is ridiculous in some ways - see, Hollywood - there is nothing more nastier, spoiled and filthier than that, and now we have VS fashion show, where beautiful women walk theirselves barely clothed, somethimes half-naked, and someone is resentful about THAT?? :D damn :D

I think it´s all about that it´s nothing new anymore - you know, it was a big BOOM, in the age when people didn´t show much of themselves in public, now all you can see everywhere is a naked body

all they have to do is spread their wings to Europe and other parts of the world

I wish they'd use real women like back in the day instead of cute girls. Their ratings would go through the roof.

They need more women with "normal" bodies, like Tyra Banks and Heidi Klum. Sure, they were tall, but were also well proportioned. They also need more famous models, women who are famous then just being a model. Heidi has the "Project Runway" show, and Tyra would do a movie here and there.

They need more women with "normal" bodies, like Tyra Banks and Heidi Klum. Sure, they were tall, but were also well proportioned. They also need more famous models, women who are famous then just being a model. Heidi has the "Project Runway" show, and Tyra would do a movie here and there.

Exactly. And they need more personality so that the public can relate.

They need more women with "normal" bodies, like Tyra Banks and Heidi Klum.

They're normal? I'm moving to L.A.

She means like not thinner than normal.

Tyra's got the sexiest body ever.

hm...I love VS shows, they´re always special and full of energy, and beautiful women in amazing outfits you know, it´s not like usual runways, where the only thing you can see are skinny models looking like this

It´s a real SHOW, and I can´t see nothing wrong there. USA is ridiculous in some ways - see, Hollywood - there is nothing more nastier, spoiled and filthier than that, and now we have VS fashion show, where beautiful women walk theirselves barely clothed, somethimes half-naked, and someone is resentful about THAT?? :D damn :D

I think it´s all about that it´s nothing new anymore - you know, it was a big BOOM, in the age when people didn´t show much of themselves in public, now all you can see everywhere is a naked body

all they have to do is spread their wings to Europe and other parts of the world

Exactly,i think if they would open shops in Europe,... and also do a runway show there i think it would be good for VS,when they aired the VSFS here in Belgium they showed the show a week later again because of the good ratings even though it was aired the first time at 24:00,so i'm sure there's potential for VS in Europe

hm...I love VS shows, they´re always special and full of energy, and beautiful women in amazing outfits you know, it´s not like usual runways, where the only thing you can see are skinny models looking like this

It´s a real SHOW, and I can´t see nothing wrong there. USA is ridiculous in some ways - see, Hollywood - there is nothing more nastier, spoiled and filthier than that, and now we have VS fashion show, where beautiful women walk theirselves barely clothed, somethimes half-naked, and someone is resentful about THAT?? :D damn :D

I think it´s all about that it´s nothing new anymore - you know, it was a big BOOM, in the age when people didn´t show much of themselves in public, now all you can see everywhere is a naked body

all they have to do is spread their wings to Europe and other parts of the world

Exactly,i think if they would open shops in Europe,... and also do a runway show there i think it would be good for VS,when they aired the VSFS here in Belgium they showed the show a week later again because of the good ratings even though it was aired the first time at 24:00,so i'm sure there's potential for VS in Europe

whow, you´re such a lucky to had it shown there... envy totally agree with ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUA-eDNzqFk

it was originaly shot in europe at cannes back when they had real models....with real model bodies. Girls that were just perfection....amazing stunning faces, big boobs, tiny waists, long legs, and big booty's ...what models should be....perfection in everyway. I dont see whats the point in idealizing "half beauty's" where their beauty just stop at the face. VS is supposed to be "what is sexy" ...half those girls are just pianted on cleavage and clothing covering their ribs and butts. with a blank pretty face.

If you took away heidi's boob job and she had no makeup on she would just look like a boring average girl.

....notice how they are not all made up to look the exact same as eachother?

The models used to walk to elegant now they just stomp, stop, and stomp back.

Gisele, karolina and ANa were good varietions of skinny girls...now they get carried away and its like elise crombez and andi muise and stam and morgan d and izabel....like those girls have nothing to them and their faces are just average they dont have big piercing eyes or big pouty lips or amazing jaws...they just look like average girls.....i know a million tall skinny girls with faces like that. But its rare that i see a girl as beautiful as Oluchi with the whole package. Alot of them just look bored as hell too...but then some over do it. I think that karolina, angela lindvall and ale know how to work the runway perfectly.

I was so incredibly dissapointed this year...the performances, the first set and the scotish set, the walks (adriana and selita looked like they were on crack, gisele was looking down the whole time and the rest of the girls looked like they were slipped quaaludes.), the camera's were all over the place.

Jeisa has a great body...but she is incrdibly boring when she walks....they need a walking lesson from miss j.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUA-eDNzqFk

Please, tell me you didn't just say that Heidi has fake breasts. :knives:

There's probably nothing that will change your mind, but I have to at least try:

Yeah I was disappointed by Jeisa's performance. I think Ale isn't all that good on the cat walk.

Models today suckass. Seriously, I don't buy this unique bs. If I saw those unique girls like Sahsa P. on the street I wouldn't even notice them.

Eventough TV ratings fall,their sales always increase.VS making more profit now

.There is lots of options on TV and VS is not a huge deal now when they are in late 90s(idea of the fantasy bra,first online fashion show etc) and start of 2000.In 2001 show(they got the best ratings) it was such a big deal because they were going to back to NY again.They always used ''it'' girls,in 2001 there was Maggie Rizer,Alek Wek,Karen Elson and Audrey Marnay.I don't think its anything to do with girls.Its just about people have more option and idea doesn't sound interesting or captivating as they sound before!Also all the angels doing a good job on sales and marketing ,VS sales increased so I don'T think that they mind it that much.

But of course I definetly don't want to see the half of the models which appear last year;Like Ajuma,Jeisa,Elise,Andi,Heather M,Caroline Winberg etc...I would like to see Naomi,Isabeli,Fernanda,Carmen Kass again!They are adding so much energy to the show unlike the models who I listed above!

She means like not thinner than normal.

Thanks for getting my point, but I'm a he.

look like normal tall skinny girls.

As they say, "all good things must come to an end".

VS shows have run it's course and they have run out of the WOW factor.

It's the same thing each year, and the models they hire are becoming more and more high fashion. I'm sorry, but in the US the majority of men don't want to see a woman like Natasha Poly in lingerie, they want to see healthy looking bodies. Curves good, couture worthy bodies ... at least not for VS. God I adore Bianca, but she's just not right for VS.

Also, guys don't want to look at "cute" girls. It's all about the raw sex appeal, and models like Jeisa, Hana, Rosie don't cut it. Yes these woman are pretty, but there's nothing about them that remotely screams SEX, or makes someone think naughty thoughts. VS needs to take a few ques from Playboy and less from French Vogue.

Also, bring a host back, play better music, stop with the HUGE FUCKING HAIR! Sleeker hair = better , show more backstage footage like in the 2002, the 2002 production was awesome..... and lastly.. better themes. Perfect phrase for VS to live by is less is more

^^

yep!

i second all of that, Josie.

p.s. strawberry, Heidi's breasts are most certainly NOT fake. i don't know how you can possibly think that. look at them shaking! they're REAL. seriously.

wardrobe malfunctions.