March 15, 20232 yr Candice could have, should have scored major deals with the big fashion houses and other contracts, and also become more mainstream famous a la Gigi Hadid, but she stayed with VS for too long which was IMO, a mistake because it meant she had a lot of restrictions. She should have left around the same time as Rosie or Miranda, leave at her peak and exploit it to her benefit, it's the same Gisele did back in 2006. I am guessing that's what Ali meant? That she could have, should have diversified more and earlier in her career. Not that Candice is the only one who made the same mistake, I think none of the girls saw the downfall of VS coming so they chose to be loyal to the brand thinking it would turn them in the next Heidi/Tyra and that they would eventually get a Gisele/Adriana level of paycheck and of course, even if none of them ever really got there, staying with VS also used to mean financial stability in an industry that is merciless.
March 15, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, kaos said: Candice Swanepoel - Photoshoot 03/11/2023 10 MB | 00:00:16 | 1080x1920 | mp4 K2S You were a couple days late, I’m already on the 8th season of this gif
March 15, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, Clauds said: Candice could have, should have scored major deals with the big fashion houses and other contracts, and also become more mainstream famous a la Gigi Hadid, but she stayed with VS for too long which was IMO, a mistake because it meant she had a lot of restrictions. She should have left around the same time as Rosie or Miranda, leave at her peak and exploit it to her benefit, it's the same Gisele did back in 2006. I am guessing that's what Ali meant? That she could have, should have diversified more and earlier in her career. Not that Candice is the only one who made the same mistake, I think none of the girls saw the downfall of VS coming so they chose to be loyal to the brand thinking it would turn them in the next Heidi/Tyra and that they would eventually get a Gisele/Adriana level of paycheck and of course, even if none of them ever really got there, staying with VS also used to mean financial stability in an industry that is merciless. fair enough, thanks for the reply with that all being said, maybe she wanted to do exactly what she did and is happy with her career and her life? unless, of course, she has stated the opposite and I missed that Candice never struck me as the type to chase down immense fame and fortune.
March 16, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, MERPER said: fair enough, thanks for the reply with that all being said, maybe she wanted to do exactly what she did and is happy with her career and her life? unless, of course, she has stated the opposite and I missed that Candice never struck me as the type to chase down immense fame and fortune. I am sorry but Candice did not sign a VS contract out of the goodness in her heart, she signed a VS contract because she wanted easier money and recognition, which VS was notorious for providing in the 00s. The problem is that by the time Candice got a contract and became a top-tier Angel, the decline within VS had started and by the mid-10s there was nothing to stop the trainwreck and she jumped ship too late. Not saying she isn't happy though, and I am sure she got plenty of money out of VS and she enjoyed not having to work as much as other girls to make her money because she had steady paycheck, enough that she was able to start her own brand which seems to be doing well. The problem with it tho, is that she became known as a swimsuit/lingerie model, and that is a hard gig to keep up once you start getting older, that's why diversifying is so important, so that once you are past your body prime (or you just get bored of it) you can still book other jobs in other areas. This is why many models turned down VS contracts or left relatively quickly, because they did not want to be tied-up to one thing for so long. Again, using Rosie and Miranda as examples: they also started with VS, became known as lingerie/swimsuit models, the difference is that they left VS early enough that they still had plenty of time to do other things, started their own brands/collabs, etc and now they are in a position where if they never want to do a lingerie/swimsuit shoot again, their careers will be okay, Rosie has become a style icon and Miranda is making so much bank with Kora. Candice, however, is still mainly known for her body because that has been her bread and butter for more than a decade now, but will that still be her bread and butter in ten years? Hard to tell, which is why I think she's trying to diversify now, so that she has broader options in the future. Had VS not had the downfall they did, I am sure Candice would have pulled an Adriana and stay with VS for 20 years, which would have been completely okay. Clearly tho, that clearly will not be the case because we all know what happened to VS.
March 16, 20232 yr Candice has the same career as Adriana, with the difference that she started 8 years later. At one point, they are more commercial models than HF models or fashion magazine editorials. I remember that in the world of fashion everyone hated when a model signed as an angel with VS, it was like the sentence to her career as a model beyond posing in lingerie. VS demanded a lot of exclusivity, if you signed as an angel with them, yes, they will pay you very well to compensate for the exclusivity, but your career will pretty much come down to VS, which obviously isn't the most prestigious or glamorous company.
March 16, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Clauds said: I am sorry but Candice did not sign a VS contract out of the goodness in her heart, she signed a VS contract because she wanted easier money and recognition, which VS was notorious for providing in the 00s. The problem is that by the time Candice got a contract and became a top-tier Angel, the decline within VS had started and by the mid-10s there was nothing to stop the trainwreck and she jumped ship too late. Not saying she isn't happy though, and I am sure she got plenty of money out of VS and she enjoyed not having to work as much as other girls to make her money because she had steady paycheck, enough that she was able to start her own brand which seems to be doing well. The problem with it tho, is that she became known as a swimsuit/lingerie model, and that is a hard gig to keep up once you start getting older, that's why diversifying is so important, so that once you are past your body prime (or you just get bored of it) you can still book other jobs in other areas. This is why many models turned down VS contracts or left relatively quickly, because they did not want to be tied-up to one thing for so long. Again, using Rosie and Miranda as examples: they also started with VS, became known as lingerie/swimsuit models, the difference is that they left VS early enough that they still had plenty of time to do other things, started their own brands/collabs, etc and now they are in a position where if they never want to do a lingerie/swimsuit shoot again, their careers will be okay, Rosie has become a style icon and Miranda is making so much bank with Kora. Candice, however, is still mainly known for her body because that has been her bread and butter for more than a decade now, but will that still be her bread and butter in ten years? Hard to tell, which is why I think she's trying to diversify now, so that she has broader options in the future. Had VS not had the downfall they did, I am sure Candice would have pulled an Adriana and stay with VS for 20 years, which would have been completely okay. Clearly tho, that clearly will not be the case because we all know what happened to VS. I do think there is some truth to this, if she was busy modeling during her prime years after VS she could have been an even more successful model rather than getting caught up with the unexpected downfall of VS. Another factor I think you may be completely overlooking is her motherhood and relationship, which now that she is single she is getting back into modeling, likely trying to chase that same success and recognition she had early in her career. Anything about why she wasn’t more successful is mostly speculative. She also should start doing more of these actual studio photo shoots and runway appearances again rather than her low quality Instagram modeling for her swimsuit brand if she cares about being more successful. Then again if it wasn’t for her VS success, she wouldn’t have been able to make a profitable swimsuit brand where she overcharges based on name recognition of being a famous model (from what I can tell this is the brand, could be off I didn’t do too much research honestly)
March 16, 20232 yr ok to be clear i did not mean to ever imply she signed a VS contract out of the goodness of her heart all I am saying is that unless she has specifically said otherwise, she always struck me as being happy/content with her career choices and lifestyle whereas the original post that started this entire convo implied her career went terribly wrong from my perspective, being a big fan but not the most knowledgeable on everything candice, she just struck me as someone who was happy being with them, working less than others did, while enjoying her privacy and life with her boyfriend/husband (what happened leading to their divorce is irrelevant to this convo) and her children almost like she was always good being a loving wife/mother first, loving her privacy second, and on the side doing modeling for a major company she made the choice not to get into TV/movies or be very active on social media and I've always felt that is exactly how she wanted it to be. She just never, at any point, struck me as the kind to overly promote herself and show too much of her and her man, her letting loose, her fun personality, etc.
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