11 hours ago, BreezyOcean98 said:

Wow. I knew Ali felt dark. Had no idea he in Epstein black book and call logs! Get out!

Yeah, this stuff is publicly sourced and vetted. To be clear, because I think someone asked, I have not heard ANY speculation about Candice being involved in any of the Epstein stuff and I want to be clear that I am in no way insinuating that.

I just don't understand why she would willingly stay friends with someone who has such deep ties to Epstein. Ali allegedly was close enough to have called Epstein 4 times within one month. And also had ties with Brunel. It's alarming. I understand that Candice has known him since she was young but is this not still disturbing? The world gives so much heat to anyone that was even spotted in a photo with any of Epstein's associates. Candice has certainly not been questioned about this at all.

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I've read many times about this theory that at those levels of fame (and especially in the modeling industry) there are many open relationships or ones where the partners aren't “exclusive,” as they say, at least for a while or during a certain phase. Whether it’s something explicitly agreed upon by both parties or a sort of unspoken understanding, that would explain why many couples stay together despite rumors (and often more than just rumors, but actual evidence) of infidelity on the part of many of them, usually on the boyfriend’s side.

After all, it’s an industry where there are likely to be weeks or months when they barely have time to see each other, surrounded by many temptations… so I wouldn’t be surprised if Candice and Hermann (or any other couple), while they were officially a couple, had both been with other people, without that constituting infidelity as such. This dynamic can change when they decide to start a family or simply because they agree to be exclusive, and then involving third parties becomes much more toxic or outright cheating.

18 minutes ago, Csalir said:

I've read many times about this theory that at those levels of fame (and especially in the modeling industry) there are many open relationships or ones where the partners aren't “exclusive,” as they say, at least for a while or during a certain phase. Whether it’s something explicitly agreed upon by both parties or a sort of unspoken understanding, that would explain why many couples stay together despite rumors (and often more than just rumors, but actual evidence) of infidelity on the part of many of them, usually on the boyfriend’s side.

After all, it’s an industry where there are likely to be weeks or months when they barely have time to see each other, surrounded by many temptations… so I wouldn’t be surprised if Candice and Hermann (or any other couple), while they were officially a couple, had both been with other people, without that constituting infidelity as such. This dynamic can change when they decide to start a family or simply because they agree to be exclusive, and then involving third parties becomes much more toxic or outright cheating.

I had heard that during the first year of her relationship with Hermann, she was talking to the son of a billionaire shipbuilder. However, the following week, Candice went to Brazil, and Hermann’s family got to know her. I don’t think Candice is the type to cheat; she was loyal and in love—otherwise, she wouldn’t have stayed with a "regular" model for 13 years. There were rumors that Hermann had accused Candice of having affairs related to her work, but all the famous people she was associated with were connected to her through Joan, Ali, and their other mutual friends. I don’t know—perhaps her loyalty to that man, followed by witnessing his infidelity, awakened a desire for revenge in her. She once said she wanted a marriage like her parents’ and to be a family-oriented woman like her mother; I’m not sure why she changed—maybe it’s due to being single for so long and losing hope of finding love—but it is clear that her personality has shifted

1 hour ago, NotABird said:

I don't know much about what Candice's relationship with Hermann was like but I've heard from those that know her that she's cheated on him before on multiple occasions. I can believe that he was probably awful to her too and cheated. Seems like a very rough relationship and good for both of them for being out of it.

Don't want to jump to assumptions but based on her being willing to trample on friends in order to date Tom and Kanye, it would be hard to believe that she one day just woke up and decided she wanted to be more famous/be linked to A-listers. She is coming across as someone that has been plotting to 'blow up' for some time. Presumably she has thought herself superior to Hermann for some time. Or at least I've heard as much. I've also heard that she stopped talking to her family for a while over Hermann and that he was a source of tension between her and her family. No bueno.

Well, if as you said it was all planned by Candice, why didn't she go after an A-lister right after she broke up with Hermann in November 2018, 5 months after giving birth to her second child? As far as I know, after Hermann came Pietro, the guy Candice desperately wanted, who is a model like her, but not as rich and famous as she is. Candice tried so hard to get back with him again in 2021 when she went to do a Tropic of C photoshoot in Puglia where he was; there’s even a photo of her sitting on his shoulders at the beach back then in 2021.

Another thing, what Candice did to Joan was terrible and there is no questioning that, especially since she is already becoming known worldwide as the "backstabbing friend" who betrayed her friend to get her guy. This is becoming Candice's "biggest scandal" throughout her entire career so far. Now, failing to align or even admit the facts of how Candice was cheated on by Hermann multiple times, particularly during her pregnancy with her second child and also after the birth of her second child, is something that everyone in Vitória, ES, in Brazil knows—just check it. And that, indeed, is extremely disgusting in my opinion

4 hours ago, NotABird said:

Yeah, this stuff is publicly sourced and vetted. To be clear, because I think someone asked, I have not heard ANY speculation about Candice being involved in any of the Epstein stuff and I want to be clear that I am in no way insinuating that.

I just don't understand why she would willingly stay friends with someone who has such deep ties to Epstein. Ali allegedly was close enough to have called Epstein 4 times within one month. And also had ties with Brunel. It's alarming. I understand that Candice has known him since she was young but is this not still disturbing? The world gives so much heat to anyone that was even spotted in a photo with any of Epstein's associates. Candice has certainly not been questioned about this at all.

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I think this was a "you had to be really deep in the fandom, blink and you miss it type of thing"

But she was actually accused of being in the Epstein files, it obviously wasn't her, the email was absolutely written by someone who didn't speak or write English very well, and Candice is a very private person, but she made a comment on a TikTok about this I think?

It really was a blink and you'll miss it type moment, bad people don't reveal their evil deeds, so maybe it's a bunch of BS, her character seems to be in serious question now, but back then this is what she said, and I think this is all she said, and we took it at face value

it was a one day thing and then it never came up again

5 hours ago, Badobaran said:

Is there anything else you know about Candace that we don't know?

5 hours ago, NotABird said:

Yeah, this stuff is publicly sourced and vetted. To be clear, because I think someone asked, I have not heard ANY speculation about Candice being involved in any of the Epstein stuff and I want to be clear that I am in no way insinuating that.

I just don't understand why she would willingly stay friends with someone who has such deep ties to Epstein. Ali allegedly was close enough to have called Epstein 4 times within one month. And also had ties with Brunel. It's alarming. I understand that Candice has known him since she was young but is this not still disturbing? The world gives so much heat to anyone that was even spotted in a photo with any of Epstein's associates. Candice has certainly not been questioned about this at all.

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Do you know other stuff about Candice or Joan, that would be greatly appreciated 🤗🤗🤗 or Behati or Doutzen or anyone

Glen Powell...? Maybe people talked about what he had going on with Joan 😈

Or what the deal is with the Mohammed Al Turki dude, did Candice get into "yachting"

Idk what you know, or are comfortable revealing so it's difficult to know what to ask 🤭

I'm already gathering some topics are off limits for you 🫠😉😊😇😅🤗😭

You just gotta download us on your day off with all the juice 😊

1 hour ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

I think this was a "you had to be really deep in the fandom, blink and you miss it type of thing"

But she was actually accused of being in the Epstein files, it obviously wasn't her, the email was absolutely written by someone who didn't speak or write English very well, and Candice is a very private person, but she made a comment on a TikTok about this I think?

It really was a blink and you'll miss it type moment, bad people don't reveal their evil deeds, so maybe it's a bunch of BS, her character seems to be in serious question now, but back then this is what she said, and I think this is all she said, and we took it at face value

it was a one day thing and then it never came up again

Yeah, she said if she wants a yacht she would get her own, which is obviously ridiculous because she has been spotted on a yacht with one of those Russian billionaire oligarchs, I forgot the name. Candice is obviously addicted to fame and fortune and is trying to hold onto the same level she had 10 years ago, hence the recent boob job. We shouldn't let Candice distance herself from the Epstein files just because she denies the claims. She has been the face of a franchise for over a decade with deep connections to Epstein. Even if she never had any actions toward her that were unseemly or never had any interaction with Epstein she had to know other models working for VS that had, especially with all the stuff that has come out about publicly just about Ed Razek. Now you can say that she might not have know the extent of all the crimes and stuff, but now after the fashion show was put to a stop specifically due to these ties, and the ties are now well established she seems to have no problem helping the company attempt to rebrand with the fashion show starting back a few years ago. There is just no way she is so oblivious about the dark history of VS and its owner Les.

Now the Tom relationship makes a lot of sense, because it goes back to what I was saying about her seeking attention and money. It just seems like one of those purely transactional relationships to me.

As for all the post cleanup and stuff, I would like to see in a DM all the violations Pink was talking about too, because I didn't see any of that stuff mentioned in the posts I was checking and browsing. I think they just don't want us discussing things that could call a celebrity's character into question, like as if the celebrity reading these forums is the only place they are hearing these negative things from

This thread has become increasingly toxic... anyone can create an account, say "I've heard this, I've heard that", with 0 credibility or evidence, and certain users will take it as gospel, regardless of the fact that it directly contradicts or entirely disregards what we know.

While the speculation was fun at first, it's become increasingly mean spirited with certain users attacking Candice's character because she had a falling out with ONE friend — and the details of that are unclear at best. Every other attack on Candice's character is based on unfounded claims.

It would do everyone well to have some humanity and remember Candice — and for that matter, Joan, Behati, Doutzen, Glen Powell, and whoever else you all want gossip on — are real people with real feelings. They aren't made up characters who exist solely for your amusement. Begging for the most salacious gossip, with 0 care to whether it's true or not, is cruel.

As to certain users calling Candice's character into question because of Ali's connection to Epstein, and VS's connection to Epstein... are you also going to call into question the character of every model who is signed, or has been signed to The Lions? How about every VS Angel? Or is it only Candice who should be held to a higher standard than everyone else?

sigh this thread has turned into a dumpster fire. can the incels please leave and let us admire Candice's beauty

15 minutes ago, ghostops117 said:

sigh this thread has turned into a dumpster fire. can the incels please leave and let us admire Candice's beauty

Those who complain that we should post photos instead of just talking are simply lazy people—the very same individuals who haven’t posted a single photo themselves in all these years. The *Bellazon* account "Piuma" used to post, but they don’t anymore; "Divine Candice" shut down all their accounts, and Reddit isn't the right platform either. Consequently, no new photos are being posted here, and Candice is gradually fading from memory. If someone speaks up, that’s just freedom of expression; if others don't like it, that’s their own problem—and if there’s an actual issue, the content will be removed. We are the last remaining fans, and rumors are simply part of the world of celebrity. This account has fewer than 15 active members, and only about half of them are sharing their opinions. We aren't "die-hard" (fanatical) fans who would defend Candice regardless of any mistakes she might have made

14 hours ago, NotABird said:

I'm not sure but I did hear from a mutual friend of Joan and Candice's that Candice sent Joan a message in October a few weeks before the VS show to apologize again since her prior apologies went without acceptance. Not sure about what happened exactly but I heard the message was very upsetting to Joan because Candice passed on any accountability and continued to make excuses. My guess is she wanted to send a message prior to having to see Joan in person at the show since that would be awkward. Candice tried several times in the preceding months to apologize to Joan and Joan had rejected the apologies but apparently something Candice said in October really set Joan off.

Also have heard that Candice and her team have been misrepresenting how things went down between her and Joan and have been planting stories/information concerning Joan, and that it had recently come to Joan's attention. This may inform why Joan had a few angry posts on social media and was triggered.

That seems plausible. Candice unfollowed Joan while they were on location of the show. I wonder if she tried to talk to Joan in person as well. As long as Joan doesn't speak up and release more information, Candice and her team will continue to plant stories to control the narrative just like Joan did calling out Candice at the beginning. She can't keep being passive aggressive online. It wouldn't shock me if she's waiting to drop something with a publication for maximum impact because she knows Candice will never address it directly.

14 hours ago, NotABird said:

I don't know much about Hermann so I have no opinion. I've heard they had a very toxic relationship with infidelity on both sides. No one knows a relationship so I am not interested in pointing fingers at all in terms of why a relationship fell apart or didn't work out, especially when they share kids and that long of a history.

In general, I'm quite neutral on Candice and always have been. I do find this Joan stuff to be disturbing because I think doing something like this to a friend of 15 years, does speak to a lack of integrity and character. Especially all to gain an aging retired football star that pumps his face with derma filler and is in the phase of life where he will sleep with anything that moves. It's all very unbecoming of her. And if others are to be believed, this is representative of a pattern with Candice.

Yeah, I struggle to wrap my head around throwing away a 15 year friendship over someone who has shown to now want to commit. I can only believe that Candice wants this to be her endgame. She has gone all in on him which is why she's been willing to go along with the paparazzi being called. It's crazy to think back just a year ago they were doing an Anne Klein campaign together talking about being best friends to now this.

9 hours ago, Badobaran said:

Could it be that Candice was dating Bad Bunny? She was at his restaurant opening and his concert, and I recall them taking photos together. I also remember Candice on vacation wearing a white T-shirt that said "Bad Bunny"—much like how, when she was dating Harry Styles, she used to play his songs

That was because the restaurant is owned by Dave Grutman, the husband of her friend Isabela Grutman. She went to Anita's birthday in another local also owned by Dave.

The Harry stuff was planted by Deuxmoi by his fans who wanted to troll after Harry was seen holding hands with his personal trainer. She used his music way before that and followed after the VSFS 2017, the gay friend was Eduardo who went with his friends to his shows in Brazil.

1 hour ago, summerc said:

This thread has become increasingly toxic... anyone can create an account, say "I've heard this, I've heard that", with 0 credibility or evidence, and certain users will take it as gospel, regardless of the fact that it directly contradicts or entirely disregards what we know.

While the speculation was fun at first, it's become increasingly mean spirited with certain users attacking Candice's character because she had a falling out with ONE friend — and the details of that are unclear at best. Every other attack on Candice's character is based on unfounded claims.

It would do everyone well to have some humanity and remember Candice — and for that matter, Joan, Behati, Doutzen, Glen Powell, and whoever else you all want gossip on — are real people with real feelings. They aren't made up characters who exist solely for your amusement. Begging for the most salacious gossip, with 0 care to whether it's true or not, is cruel.

As to certain users calling Candice's character into question because of Ali's connection to Epstein, and VS's connection to Epstein... are you also going to call into question the character of every model who is signed, or has been signed to The Lions? How about every VS Angel? Or is it only Candice who should be held to a higher standard than everyone else?

VS exploits young women. I understand why women get into it because it gives them money and opportunity and many of them come from not the best backgrounds. Candice should absolutely be held to a higher standard because she already has the money and status as being probably one of the most famous models in the world, so she has other options to make money than continue working for a company that exploits women.

38 minutes ago, Badobaran said:

Those who complain that we should post photos instead of just talking are simply lazy people—the very same individuals who haven’t posted a single photo themselves in all these years. The *Bellazon* account "Piuma" used to post, but they don’t anymore; "Divine Candice" shut down all their accounts, and Reddit isn't the right platform either. Consequently, no new photos are being posted here, and Candice is gradually fading from memory. If someone speaks up, that’s just freedom of expression; if others don't like it, that’s their own problem—and if there’s an actual issue, the content will be removed. We are the last remaining fans, and rumors are simply part of the world of celebrity. This account has fewer than 15 active members, and only about half of them are sharing their opinions. We aren't "die-hard" (fanatical) fans who would defend Candice regardless of any mistakes she might have made

Just to shut this debate about DivineCandice.com, the girl who ran the site in the last years is my friend in real life and had been stalked by a guy for years, her biggest account was shut down by Instagram and created dcandicecom after divine Candice on X was also shut down by Twitter for copyright. She kept the site and started over on social media but suddenly started to get fake hack alerts on her mail and the bot verification on the site that made the web lost views, which is what kept the web 100% free. She ended up deactivating because she found a job and is starting a relationship (she allowed me to say it on here since she was close to @db92 ) she's happy with her life outside social media and all the drama she had to face and so far no open to return in any form to any platform.

She shut down the gallery and everything because she kept getting issues to load the site in the last days to share the updated and the site would go down for hours for no reason only to load again around 5AM for her while visible to everybody else during that time.

32 minutes ago, db92 said:

That seems plausible. Candice unfollowed Joan while they were on location of the show. I wonder if she tried to talk to Joan in person as well. As long as Joan doesn't speak up and release more information, Candice and her team will continue to plant stories to control the narrative just like Joan did calling out Candice at the beginning. She can't keep being passive aggressive online. It wouldn't shock me if she's waiting to drop something with a publication for maximum impact because she knows Candice will never address it directly.

Yeah, I struggle to wrap my head around throwing away a 15 year friendship over someone who has shown to now want to commit. I can only believe that Candice wants this to be her endgame. She has gone all in on him which is why she's been willing to go along with the paparazzi being called. It's crazy to think back just a year ago they were doing an Anne Klein campaign together talking about being best friends to now this.

even if Candice wants this to be her endgame, if tom finds another model, he’s dumping Candice for the other one or if he’s just not interested in keeping the relationship going. Unfortunately, in a month or so tom will be seen with another female. I also sense all this narratives are from Candice PR team. Tom and his PR are focus on other important things, such as the opening of his card store. The only way Tom’s PR will say something is if tom starts being accused of something.

Good God... came here for Candice pics, leaving with the New York public library. Waaaaay too much text, not enough photos. I get that its a forum and discussions take place, but this is next level.

Her last story to start with some updates promoting Rosie's business.

46 minutes ago, Bellabuzz said:

Good God... came here for Candice pics, leaving with the New York public library. Waaaaay too much text, not enough photos. I get that its a forum and discussions take place, but this is next level.

Maybe when you get done crying it up you can contribute some photos of your own

Maybe a new Candice S. gossip thread can be made to separate it from the photos thread?

This forum is mainly for a photos/video, not huge conversations that conceal the content.

8 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

Maybe a new Candice S. gossip thread can be made to separate it from the photos thread?

This forum is mainly for a photos/video, not huge conversations that conceal the content.

Actually a good idea, although maybe the mods don't want to encourage gossip so they will rather just pretend it doesn't exist