Cult Icon Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 9 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: Yeah, a lot of concern from people whose entire audience is on twitter. I think they are fucked either way. Even if the company does not go down, Elon's vision of it is very different. Only blue checkmarks will get primacy. So the age of non-verified users building very large followings (e.g. @dril) is essentially over. And most of the people who built their audience entirely on Twitter started out anonymously. It would be jarring (for twitter stars) that their entire business/advertising profile is now thrown out of wack. It's even worse if youtube got shaken up. This would undo years of work. However it always seemed that Elon did not like twitter but couldn't separate himself from it. I doubt that he would be very sad even if his investment collapsed. Kind of like the joker in this regard 😛 I am starting to plan my youtube videos and I am considering making them 'youtube neutral' just in case I need to move them to another platform. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 This is what Twitter was before Elon. Anything he does will probably be an improvement. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 And that's what the "intellectuals" on twitter looked like... So smart, so brave Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: Qatar is a place with slavery, homophobia and intolerance. But no one gives a shit. Blue-haired people prefer to scream on Elon for bringing free speech to twitter, rather than calling out a country like Qatar that's full of real bigots. This works with Qatar as well: Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: This version of the joker was good too: Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 Elon buying twitter is one of the few great things of 2022 Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Enrico_sw said: This is what Twitter was before Elon. Anything he does will probably be an improvement. It probably won't exist within a year. So by your logic, no twitter is better than old twitter. It's a POV I guess. Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Enrico_sw said: Gundam is spot on as often Not sure why you are making this about progressive vs. conservative. Every serious business analyst cannot make sense of his decisions, which seem to run counter all logic about how you would run this company shortly after the acquisition. He has alienated advertisers in a matter of weeks. Has gotten rid of almost all of the staff in charge of user security. The Twitter Blue roll-out was such a disaster that it has now largely been retracted already. By any objective measure, the first few weeks of his ownership could almost not have gone any worse. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: Qatar is a place with slavery, homophobia and intolerance. But no one gives a shit. Blue-haired people prefer to scream on Elon for bringing free speech to twitter, rather than calling out a country like Qatar that's full of real bigots. It's one the biggest hypocritical events in the last 20 years. All these countries, players, leagues, etc talk a big game about social justice besides shitting on the Western World with racism, slavery, etc. Now there's crickets from these tards. So stfu or stand by your principles. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: Not sure why you are making this about progressive vs. conservative. Every serious business analyst cannot make sense of his decisions, which seem to run counter all logic about how you would run this company shortly after the acquisition. He has alienated advertisers in a matter of weeks. Has gotten rid of almost all of the staff in charge of user security. The Twitter Blue roll-out was such a disaster that it has now largely been retracted already. By any objective measure, the first few weeks of his ownership could almost not have gone any worse. Have you even watched the video? 25 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: Not sure why you are making this about progressive vs. conservative. I don't. I make this about free people vs. totalitarian bullies Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: It probably won't exist within a year. So by your logic, no twitter is better than old twitter. It's a POV I guess. I have never ever said that. Dude, you are putting words in other people's mouths here. You invent a chimera to refute it afterwards. It's a strawman argument Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: It's one the biggest hypocritical events in the last 20 years. All these countries, players, leagues, etc talk a big game about social justice besides shitting on the Western World with racism, slavery, etc. Now there's crickets from these tards. So stfu or stand by your principles. Yep, exactly. They don't care about "social justice". They just want to attack their favourite scapegoats (straight white men) and get their woke points for that. In reality, these woke mobsters have no principles. Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: I have never ever said that. Dude, you are putting words in other people's mouths here. You invent a chimera to refute it afterwards. It's a strawman argument It's not a strawman, it's based on financial analysis. Unless Musk pumps a crazy amount of money into it to keep it afloat, there is a very good chance the company will go bankrupt. Even Musk himself has communicated this to the staff. And since there is no clear way for him to fix the negative cash flow issues in the short term, it's not really obvious how he can avoid that. Unless he keeps on selling Tesla stock to prop up the company. Obviously he cannot do that indefinitely. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 4 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: It's not a strawman, it's based on financial analysis. Unless Musk pumps a crazy amount of money into it to keep it afloat, there is a very good chance the company will go bankrupt. Even Musk himself has communicated this to the staff. And since there is no clear way for him to fix the negative cash flow issues in the short term, it's not really obvious how he can avoid that. Unless he keeps on selling Tesla stock to prop up the company. Obviously he cannot do that indefinitely. It's become a dialogue of the deaf, now You change the subject and you talk about a different thing. And you didn't even watch Gundam's video. I don't care about the cash flows and business plan of Twitter, I'm not Elon's co-investor (maybe you are, but not me). I care about freedom. The ex-owners were totalitarian bullies. I only care about the bird's freedom. Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: It's become a dialogue of the deaf, now You change the subject and you talk about a different thing. And you didn't even watch Gundam's video. I don't care about the cash flows and business plan of Twitter, I'm not Elon's co-investor (maybe you are, but not me). I care about freedom. The ex-owners were totalitarian bullies. I only care about the bird's freedom. "The bird's freedom", defined by what exactly? I don't see a huge difference on the app itself, other than the nonsense of people pretending to be someone else using their newly acquired blue tick. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 ^ Defined by the fact that the Stasi agents who worked for twitter will stop censoring opinions they don't like. Maybe you don't realize it, but lots of folks hate this thought police that rules big tech platforms. It's smothering, rampant and it sucks out the joy of past civil discourse. This is a nightmare, not a dream: Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 I'm tired of discussing this now. We will see what happens to Twitter. In any case, Musk claims there haven't been substantial changes to how they moderate tweets so by your definition the bird is not yet free. Quote
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