1 hour ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

Weirder (to me at least) than the electoral college is the fact that Wyoming (population 570K) has the same amount of senators as California (population just under 40 million).

 

So the two California senators represent 70x as many people as their counterparts from Wyoming. And this is supposed to make sense because...

 

I'm aware of the so-called Connecticut compromise, but we are now well over 200 years later, the population realities in the U.S. are vastly different than they were back then.

 

Checks and balances

21 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

A few things:

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I want to answer, but I think it's best if I wait until you've read the books (at least Twilight, Z and Birth of Tragedy). His concepts are developped extensively in the books and I've often found out that some "pundits" largely misinterpreted his words. It's better if you make your judgement based on his words.

 

21 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

Yes, Nietzsche was not a racist, however he comes across as an elitist.  The "Last Man" is a rather pessimistic and cruel (frankly rather stupid) concept.

 

It depends what you mean by "elitst". Sometimes this type of words have various interpretations. If it mean birth privilege, castes or any form of prejudice, then no. If it means that certain people are better than other in certain fields, then yes he is. And I agree with that.  It's quite obvious in sports, but in all sorts of fields. It doesn't mean that the more talented people should oppress the other. Quite the opposite. But it's a natural process that the more talented lead the way. It happens all the time in nature. 

 

Also, I think Nietzsche would  be OK with the concept of "mobility" in the hierarchal structures (though I can't quite back that up with his words from what I remember).

 

As for the last man, it's better if you read Z before judging it.

22 hours ago, CandleVixen said:

Does anyone else think that “The Purge” movies are about to happen, starting in November?

 

Except that it won’t be for one night a year. It will be 24/7/365

 

I don't know this movie, but it sounds like it. I hate to see useless violence. I don't like to see people hating each other just for "opinions". The worst of the worst is when people fight each other because of the color of their skin. It's terrible. Supposedly, everybody knows that, but some famous/influential people say they fight against it, while in fact they actually promote it.

 

I don't understand why the moderates don't manage to overthrow the extremists. It's painful to watch.

 

Polticians should listen to people like him:

 

People are fleeing San Francisco, because of how dirty, unsafe and crazy it has become

 

15 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

I want to answer, but I think it's best if I wait until you've read the books (at least Twilight, Z and Birth of Tragedy). His concepts are developped extensively in the books and I've often found out that some "pundits" largely misinterpreted his words. It's better if you make your judgement based on his words.

 

 

It depends what you mean by "elitst". Sometimes this type of words have various interpretations

 

Elitist in terms of his (very demanding) program of his version of enlightenment (the superman, amor fati and eternal return) and also the nature of the theories he has about the way the world/people works.    Overall it seems like something that only very few people can manage and unnecessarily hard on oneself.  

 

Do as I say, not as I do......... rules for thee and not for me.

 

Fuck these elitist fucks!

 

8 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Elitist in terms of his (very demanding) program of his version of enlightenment (the superman, amor fati and eternal return) and also the nature of the theories he has about the way the world/people works.    Overall it seems like something that only very few people can manage and unnecessarily hard on oneself.  

 

 

Oh, I see. Yes, it's quite demanding. I don't know if it's unnecessarily hard. I came across his books at a time when I needed to spend time on such things.  I immediately liked him, mostly because of how he considers music (Music is very important to me).

 

Then, I read more of his work and there were some things I liked and agreed with, and, some other things that I didn't like. He uses the "hammer" on many things and sometimes he makes what we would call "gratuitous attacks" on people or ideas that are really uncalled for and unjustified. He can be a bit brutal at times, but all in all, he's very interesting (even when you disagree with him).

1 minute ago, Stromboli1 said:

Do as I say, not as I do......... rules for thee and not for me.

 

Fuck these elitist fucks!

 

 

SF looks like a city from a third-world country. One of my friends used to live there. He's intellectual, lefty and French. You'd think that he would be in his natural element. Unfortunately for him, he's rational and moderate (that's a capital crime there ). We haven't discussed in a while.

 

I visited him some years ago and I remember that the city was quite dirty.

 

I completed an audio of a ~14 hour NYU Nietzche course awhile ago, which acquainted me with his basic concepts.  Overall I found his concepts to be a mixed bag as you can see here.  Of course reading the books would offer more details.  

 

When I get to Nietzche my main goal is to 1. see his insights into masculinity and tragedy 2. what the existentialist thinking process/consciousness is.  This is why I am doing the existentialist phenominologists right now and doing it first as consciousness insights are what I'm primarily looking for.  So my interests in Nietzche's actual ideas are secondary.

7 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

SF looks like a city from a third-world country. One of my friends used to live there. He's intellectual, lefty and French. You'd think that he would be in his natural element. Unfortunately for him, he's rational and moderate (that's a capital crime there ). We haven't discussed in a while.

 

I visited him some years ago and I remember that the city was quite dirty.

 

Who'd want to live in an overpriced shithole?

6 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

Oh, I see. Yes, it's quite demanding. I don't know if it's unnecessarily hard.

 

Isn't the central theme of his philosophy "uncovering the true self, unshackling social conditioning, and following the self while deviating from the "herd", and then evolving into the superman and creating a tailored life that is extremely potent.  All the while enduring what could be enormous suffering and hardship?  That is not something that an average person can do very easily or willing particularly with the practical limitations of, eg. most people aren't that intelligent & introspective and life gets in the way (we need to make a living, fit in to society, manage relationships, families, children, etc.).  The average person does not want to challenge themselves in that way.  Deviating from the "herd" can be catastrophic depending on one's life conditions. It seems that even Nietzsche didn't pull it off in any practical sense.  This is why there are relatively few people who have fabulous lives like that.

 

 

7 hours ago, Matt! said:

 

 

That's Robin's team!

6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Isn't the central theme of his philosophy "uncovering the true self, unshackling social conditioning, and following the self while deviating from the "herd", and then evolving into the superman and creating a tailored life that is extremely potent.

 

Yeah, pretty much. It's a bit grandiloquent (and his words often are), but you're free to interpret it your way. I certainly wouldn't use grand words and grand ambitions like he did, but I like the general idea.

 

6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

All the while enduring what could be enormous suffering and hardship? 

 

That's not whay I got from his words. I don't see it as a painful path and I don't remember him arguing that it needs to be full of suffering and hardship. He says that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but he doesn't mean that you should seek suffering.

 

6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

Deviating from the "herd" can be catastrophic depending on one's life conditions.

 

Deviating from the herd means questioning the values of values. It doesn't mean that all these values are wrong and I don't see it as a way to cut ties with everybody. It's not a condescending way of seeing the world. At least, I don't see it that way. It's more a promise for yourself to get better, it's not a way to despise others.

 

6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

This is why there are relatively few people who have fabulous lives like that.

 

Life is shit for everybody. It's never perfect, we just have to try to improve ourselves and make it as best as we can based on what we've been given.

 

---

 

PS: you don't have to agree with everything he says to benefit from his books. Just cherry-pick and take what you want out of it. As I said, that's what I did. For me, it's not a system, it's not "all or nothing", you can take things and leave others.

On 9/1/2020 at 2:51 AM, Cult Icon said:

 

did you use the japanese voices ?  The japanese voice actor for Jin is "hardcore" and more authentic.  

 

this game has been a huge success, a big budget sequel is likely.  GOT has a lot of promise.

 

I like Jin's Japanese voice, this guy is a voice actor in many animes and he mostly plays swordsmen/samurai.

 

I usually use English voices in games, so I can use gaming as an excuse to improve my English... I know some Japanese but I can't understand more than a few words, so I'd have to read subtitles.

 

English voices in this game are good, for example Ishikawa's voice is from the guy that plays Jules-Pierre Mao in the Expanse. I immediatly recognized his voice, it's pretty neat and it has big strength (even if the guy is not really physically impressive in reality).

26 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

That's Robin's team!

@Matt!

 

BTW, Robin is definitely wife material. Such a fine woman.

Spoiler

 

 

 

accurate....

NOPE!

4 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

BTW, Robin is definitely wife material. Such a fine woman.

 

 

Yes, I approve this message 

 

19 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

 

I don't know this movie, but it sounds like it. I hate to see useless violence. I don't like to see people hating each other just for "opinions". The worst of the worst is when people fight each other because of the color of their skin. It's terrible. Supposedly, everybody knows that, but some famous/influential people say they fight against it, while in fact they actually promote it.

 

I don't understand why the moderates don't manage to overthrow the extremists. It's painful to watch.

 

Polticians should listen to people like him:

 

The Purge movies and series, are about the United States has one night a year, from sundown to sunrise, murder is legal. 
 

To me, the recent upset is not just about race vs race, it’s also religion vs religion. It’s been that way for a long time, though recently it’s been escalated. 
 

So, who’s to blame in the recent uprisings? Everyone. That is  as it’s always been, only recently added social media and the instant actions/reactions into that mix. 
 

 

I’ll have to check out the video later.