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I'm kinda surpised Adriana is gonna be in again this year. I thought she was gonna miss it due to her pregancy. However, since she gave birth in the middle of September, I guess that gives her enough time to get the weight off.

I guess it's up to me to update this thread. This season is a big step up from last season. Debra knows everything about Dexter now. She understands why her brothers kills, and that some level he is doing a good thing and saving people's lives. Still, accepting what he does is still going to be a struggle, her being a Lt. and all. It was getting real interesting with that Mobster going after Dex and the whole Miami Metro Police Department, but I guess that might be over with, the fact that that Mobster is in jail and all. However, now we have a new girl, Hannah, who used to run with a serial killer, and seems to have participated in his killings. Her part has been small so far, but it looks like her character will be more involved now. Not quite a Debra, with the expecption that she might become ANOTHER VICTIM?!

She just seems to get pregnant at the right time, doesn't she? Heidi Klum, Korolina Kurkova, and Adriana Lima have missed some VSFS because of pregancies, and Adriana is gonna have to sit out again this year because she is likely gonna give birth too close to the show. However, Alessandra either get pregnant right after, or just before so she isn't showing yet. She has been in every show since 2000, and because she gave birth about 2 months ago, she should be in tip-top shape by the time VSFS 2012 rolls around.

How can somebody get in your posts and change the smileys u posted along with them? Just went into the Dexter thread, and somebody did JUST THAT!!! Please find out who it was and BAN 'EM!!!

Some asshole changed the smileys I posted with my posts on this thread. HOW F'N PATHETIC!!! Was it u, frenchkiki?

Good ad. Not a really a "Lost" fan, but I remember Harold from HBO's "OZ", a show I used to watch religiously. He was a major character as well as the narrator of that show. Obviously SOA and Sheriff Eli Roosevelt are gonna have their hands full. Both Jax and Chibs were pissed off that Tig went that route. Although Jax said that some black guys rolled up and shot Clay, and didn't say that the 1-9 Kings were involved. Also Eli mentioned that he was the baddest gangster out of Oaktown.

And the saga continues: The Wire Raising Hope Nikita Grimm Blue Bloods The Secret Circle United States of Tara Breakout Kings Prison Break House Here I go again: Once Upon A Time The Good Wife Hung Terra Nova Alcatraz Body of Proof Hawaii 5-0 (new one) With DVR, Tivo, and DVD's nowadays, you can always catch up on your favorite shows and never miss a episode.

And the saga continues: The Wire Raising Hope Nikita Grimm Blue Bloods The Secret Circle United States of Tara Breakout Kings Prison Break House

I definitely watch too much TV, so here goes: The Wire Boardwalk Empire Dexter Homeland Shameless New York Undercover Oz 24 90210(new one) Six Feet Under Living Single Californication Hung Vampire Diaries Revenge Rome Game of Thrones The Borgias Nurse Jackie The Big C Luther I do have more, but I think I'll stop right here.

Glad to see you saw it went both ways, Michael.

They are gonna have to add a model or two this year, or bring one who wasn't in the 2011 show back. Both Alessandra and Adriana are pregnant. Adriana is gonna give birth late this year or early next year, so she is definitely out. When ale announced her pregnancy late this year, she said she was already 4 months along. That means she will give birth in late May or early June, and therefore will most likely participate is this year's show. Because of Adriana Lima's situation, they might have to make another one of their models an official angel, or bring one back. I'm guessing Rosie can come back, and Izabel was a one-time angel as well. However, their angel contracts are up, so who knows what might happen?

I do watch this show, and thanks for starting a thread on this. Even though there are a lot of cop shows out there, I started watching this one for two reasons: 1. It takes place in the the city of L.A., the city I grew up and still live in. 2. Great cast. Regina King has had a long movie career before appearing on this show. Shawn Hatosy has been in some movies as well. I remember Ben McKenzie from the O.C., so I was kinda interesting to see him act now that he can't play a teenager anymore. They are keeping it interesting by adding Lucy Liu to the show and having high-profile guest appearances on the show such as Lou Diamond Phillips.

This season was just OK. However, that season finale was EPIC!!! :dance: :hell yea!: Debra finally came admitted to herself and her therapist that she was in love with Dexter , and she is gonna tell him so. I do find it kinda weird that she is in love with her brother, but since they are not related by blood, technically there is nothing wrong with them having a relationship. But the kicker when she saw Dexter:SERIAL KILLER. :shock: I guessing she went back to the abandoned church because she knew Dexter was gonna be there because she advised him to clean up that scene, but instead of getting to break the news about her loving him, saw him kill the Doomsday Killer. Since this season dealt with religion and faith, it's only right that Dexter said "OH GOD!!!" when he saw that she witnessed him killing that guy. This leads us to a lot of questions: How will she react to this? Can she still love Dexter after seeing who he truly is? Will she turn him in? How will his co-workers react if they find out? Regardless of the outcome, the writers gave us something to make our mouths water until next season.

I'm eager to see what's gonna happen in the season finale. It's gonna be interesting to see how he is gonna take down the Doomsday killer. Also, it seems that that guy who is Masuka's assistant and dating Dex's baby-sitter and Batista's sister is somewhat of a freak. He obviously bought the hand with the painted nails the previous assistant stole and put on E-Bay for sale, and now is sending it to Dexter. Is he maybe another blood relative of Dexter we don't know about. Maybe another BROTHER OR COUSIN?! It seems like his mom just had him and Brian, but we don't know about his father, and its also possible either parent had a brother or sister. I mean, who else would know that Dexter is connected to the Ice Trick Killer besides Debra and Captain Matthews? This thing between Debra and Dexter is gonna be disturbing. Why did that shrink have to put that idea in her head? She has always been close to Dexter, but the idea of them being romantically involved sounds sick to me. :yuckky: :x Even though they are not brother and sister by blood, they were raised as such, and I hope their relationship doesn't go beyond that.

Whoa, did you think I condone what she did with Jimmy just because she was also sexually abused at a young age? I think we all agreed that was wrong and sick. :yuckky: :x I was just pointing out I don't think you can feel sympathy for Jimmy without feeling sympathy for his mother. Plus, Jimmy turned his back on the only person who did actually did love him, Nucky.

Sookie had to KILL THAT BITCH!!! That was the 2nd time Debbie tried to kill her. What, was she gonna let her live so she could get another chance? Not to mention she killed Tara, Sookie's best friend.

To answer your question, some overtly religious people become that way because they believe they got "GOD" on their side, therefore what they do cannot be wrong. And true, Nucky is gonna be pissed when he finds out. As far as Jimmy goes, Nucky killing him was shocking to see. I did have a feeling that Nuk would never forgive him for turning his back on him. Not to mention he did try to have him killed. However, I do kind of find it hard to feel sympathy for Jimmy. Granted, his sick mother who sexually abused him as a infant "and" as an adult made him that way. Thing is, if we feel bad for him, shouldn't we feel bad for Gillian, who was raped by the Commodore and had Jimmy when she was on 13? Not sure what will happen to his son, stuck with her. And will Richard Harrow become a father figure for him? Jimmy's death leaves those characters in total disarray, and one wonders if they will be back next season.

Nobody wins against me, SWEET LOU. Yours_Forever, nice way to dodge my ORIGINAL POINT!!! I only brought that up was because they did it again. Granted, Jax didn't necessarily blame the niners for Clay's shooting, but he said some Black guys did it, and everybody bought it. Say what you wanna say about protecting the club, but it really wasn't necessary this time around. I'm sure the club wouldn't hold it against Opie shooting Clay if they knew what Clay did to his father, as well as the fact that he killed John Teller and tried to get Tara killed. Now, this thing is gonna come to a head. Tig killed the leader of the 1-9 Kings' girlfriend, who is also the daughter of one of Oakland's top gangsters, who, as Sheriff Eli Roosevelt puts it, is the most DEADLIEST gangster out of Oaktown. The Sons had to come to Tig's aid. Were gonna have to wait and see how that situation turns out in the next season. It is sure gonna be a main issue. Granted, this is just a show, but sometimes show stir up emotions in you, good and bad. I'm a black man, so I have faced that type of racism.

Boardwalk Empire Recap: Season 2 Episode 12 – To The Lost Jimmy and Harrow surprise a KKK meeting and start shooting people. They demand the names and addresses of the guys who shot up Chalky’s. They only have to kill like four people before the assembled racist turds get the point. Manya is now hiding out in the basement of a synagogue but still giving poetic but long-winded descriptions of his status. Doyle, Nucky, and Owen are sitting across from him, trying not to look bored. Nucky understands that Manya has had a rough time of it recently but explains that Waxey Gordon is a business partner. But Manya informs Nucky that Waxey is in business with Jimmy and that they should help each other out. Nucky notes that Manya doesn’t look to be in a position to do anything, but Manya tells him that if Angela could still talk she would tell him otherwise. Jimmy and Harrow deliver the KKK guys to Chalky, plus $5,000 for each family. Chalky declares the strike over and Jimmy asks Chalky to tell Nucky that he wants to talk. “Welcome back, fellas!” says Chalky, as the KKK guys are dragged to the ground and beaten. In the car, Harrow tells Jimmy that whatever he does to try to change things, they’ll never forgive him. I’m not sure who Harrow is referring to here: the African-American people of Atlantic City or Nucky and his comrades. Or both. Emily is working on walking when Nucky arrives home. Katy informs him that Margaret left a little bit ago and didn’t say where she was going. Turns out that Margaret has gone to see Randolph with Father Brennan along for moral support. Father tries to do all the talking but Margaret sends him out. Randolph tries to understand where Margaret is coming from, and Margaret explains that her husband beat her and her children, while Nucky has never been cruel to her. Randolph tries to guilt Margaret by pointing out that she’s putting her children’s safety and comfort above everyone else’s. Nucky and Fallon are discussing how Margaret’s testimony will sink him when Chalky calls. Nucky goes to visit Jimmy, who informs him that the Commodore is dead. Jimmy regrets not killing him sooner, like the moment he suggested betraying Nucky. Jimmy knows that there’s nothing he can say, but hopes that there’s something he can do. Nucky demands the truth and Jimmy tells him that the attempt on his life was Eli’s idea. Margaret’s knitting a scarf and boiling water for tea, which makes sense since it’s like 100 degrees. Nucky comes to talk to her about the fundamental differences in their faith. His version of God demands that he love his family. There is more God in the love that he feels for her and the children than in all of the churches in Rome. “I adore you and our family. My entire universe is in these walls. The rest can disappear,” he says. It’s really quite lovely, but Margaret is of course skeptical. Nucky needs and wants her to marry and is upfront about the fact that she would save his life by doing so. “I’m afraid. I don’t want to die or spend my life in jail. I would never admit that to anyone but you,” he says. Margaret doesn’t have an answer for him at the moment. The Commodore’s death certificate, listing his cause of death as an accident, has arrived costing a pretty penny. His will leaves his estate to his servant, the one who tried to poison him. Jimmy tears up the will, so that the estate can go to him and then to Tommy if anything happens to him. Neary, Ryan, and Boyd arrive and Jimmy shocks them by ordering them to recant their testimony and blame everything on Eli. Margaret is awoken the next morning by the sound of Nucky cheering on Emily. She looks out the window and is thrilled to see Emily working on walking with the encouragement of Nucky and her brother. Later, she tells Nucky that she’ll need him to accompany her to church, where she’ll make a full confession and then marry him. Randolph is practicing her opening argument while Margaret is making her confession and while Jimmy and Harrow are approaching Neary’s office. Neary is in the midst of diddling his secretary. Jimmy advises her to go for a coffee break and not come back. As Margaret and Nucky tie the knot, Jimmy and Harrow walk Neary through his confession/suicide note…and then they walk him through his suicide, too. Helpful guys, those two. In court, Randolph can hardly believe the blatant witness tampering. But with essentially no cards to play, she agrees to let the judge declare a mistrial. Eli is released on his own recognizance, but Halloran, who confessed to killing Hans Schroeder, gets sent to Leavenworth. Gillian watches as Jimmy and Tommy arrange a pony ride at the beach. Jimmy tells Tommy about how he used to come out here by himself and tells Tommy that he’ll be able to do the same when he needs to. Nucky comes to bed a little drunk after celebrating the mistrial. He insists that he had nothing to do with Neary’s suicide and Margaret insists that she believes him. There’s more good news: Congress is going to approve the road appropriations, so he’ll need her to sign the deed back to him. “Maybe God is giving me another chance,” he says. Eli is sitting on the porch when Nucky comes to see him. “Hot enough for you?” asks Eli. “Yes, and how about those Phillies and my brother tried to have me killed,” says Nucky. “Et tu, Eli?” Eli doesn’t get the reference and Nucky says that it’s from Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar. “There’s a character named Eli?” Eli asks and I die laughing. Eli insists that he had nothing to do with the attempt on Nucky’s life, but that’s not what Jimmy said. Nucky tells him that he needs to plead guilty. He’ll do two years at the most, but be out in one, while Joan and the kids are well looked out for. It’s the best he’s going to get. Lucky and Lansky are pitching this whole heroin thing to Rothstein, who says that they could start an import business, Chinese lanterns perhaps. Nucky calls and asks Rothstein how he would feel if Manya were suddenly to be amongst the departed. Rothstein, given the nod by Lucky, says that he would have no opinion. Van Alden, Sigrid, and Abigail are moving into an apartment in Cicero, Illinois. (Cicero, since this show is dripping in symbolism, was the Roman philosopher who called for a return to traditional republican government after the tumultuous dictatorship of Caesar.) They have new names: Mr. and Mrs. Mueller. Jimmy and Harrow are sharing a drink and some stories from the war. Harrow used to think that that was where he was meant to be. Jimmy assures him that no one was meant to be there. Nucky calls and says that he’ll be meeting Manya in an hour. Harrow offers to go for Jimmy, who he tells him that it’s something he needs to take care of. Personally, I would want Harrow as back-up just in case, but whatever. Gillian looks a little concerned that Jimmy has gone out and notices that Tommy is wearing Jimmy’s dog tags. “You’re gonna be a big man in this city one day,” she tells him. “Just like your father.” Jimmy meets up with Nucky, Owen, and Manya, seemingly cuffed, at a war memorial that is still under construction. “Now you will have your revenge?” asks Manya. “Is that what this is?” asks Jimmy, as Eli appears behind him with a shotgun. Manya reveals that he’s not actually tied up. “This is the only way we could have ended?” asks Jimmy, but Nucky insists that this was his choice. “I died in the trenches years ago,” says Jimmy. “So who’s gonna do it?” he asks looking at Owen, Manya, and Eli. “I am,” says Nucky, pulling a gun from his vest. Jimmy tells him that the first time he killed someone he vomited for two days straight. He assures Nucky that he’ll get through it, all he has to worry about it is when he runs out of booze and company. Nucky cuts him off by shooting him. “You don’t know me, James,” he says. “I am not seeking forgiveness.” He shoots Jimmy in the head and Jimmy dies underneath the large, bronze doughboy. We flashback to Jimmy in the trenches, hearing the whistle and climbing out into nomansland. In the morning, things look rather idyllic at the Thompson household. Margaret asks Nucky where he was last night and he tells her that he ran into Jimmy. Margaret is initially pleased to hear that they cleared the air, but her face falls when Nucky tells her that he reenlisted. Nucky goes to meet Bader, Moran, and Fleming at the future site of the highway to celebrate. Margaret goes to Nucky’s desk and ponders the deed and the map showing the future highway. She signs the deed, scratching out the beginning of her old last name and correcting it to Thompson, then signs it over to Father Brennan’s church.

They had multiple outfits. And Ale never missed the show. My bad. Ale got pregnant at the right time, like right after the the 2007 show, which allowed her to not mess the 2008 show. 3 months is plenty of time to lose weight. True, KK and Isabeli walked twice. Now, Isabeli looked great in the 2010 show. So far, the fact that she has had two kids hasn't made her body any worse for wear, so she could definitely come back to do VSFS in the future. KK, I'm not so sure. While she looked good at the 2010 show, she has suffered from hypothyroidism in the past, which makes her a risky pic for future shows.

How did I not see it before? I remember when he came back from in the pilot episode last year, the way she jumped into his arms, it was like he was her husband or girlfriend on the side. Since they showed him visiting his wife first, I actually thought she was his girl on the side. When I found out she was his mother, I wondered why she looked so young. Eventually, we learn about her and the Commodore, and what he did to her, which one of the main reason she SO FUCKED UP!!! Still doesn't excuse what she did. Plus, Jimmy should think about her raising his kid. She sexually abused him, even when he was a baby, who says she won't do the same to her grandson?

I see a lot of people talking about bring some vets back. While novel idea, I think that is a LOT of wishful thinking. How many still have contracts with VS? Not to mention, you can't turn back the clocks of time. So which veterans are we talking about? Do those girls still have it? Even when they brought back vets, their roles were limited. In the 2010 show we saw the reappearance of KK and Isabeli, but they only appeared one time. Doutzen only missed the 2010 show because she was pregnant. I missed seeing Rosie, but she will probably be back next year(I hope). Also, I don't know how longer Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio are gonna do this. Adriana has been doing in the VSFS since 1999, and Alessandra since 2000, save for the years they had babies. They are both 30 now. My best guess that eventually their roles will be limited more, so we are gonna see more and more newer models every year from here on out.

Well, Mexicans were secretive, and now we know why. They were in cahoots with the CIA, and they need this deal with the Irish Kings to happen. So, Clay gets to live, , Jax takes his rightful place at the head of the table, and we got to look forward to another season. . I'm sure there are gonna be some twists and turns, but we know some of the things they are gonna have to deal with: 1. This thing with the 1-9 Kings ain't going away. Not only did Tig kill the leader's girl, her father is supposedly the Most DEADLIEST Gangster out of OAKLAND!!! :blueeyedbaby: That is gonna turn into a war. 2. Jax ability to be leader of the Club. Will he take it in the direction his father wanted it to go, or will be similar to Clay? I seriously doubt he would be a cold-blooded as Clay, but you never know. 3. His relationship with Tara and Gemma. Tara decided to stay with Jax, and that he is the head honcho, she might be the new Matriarch and possibly a challenge to Gemma. Gemma covered her tracks and Usner's of their possible involvent in John's death. She may have destroyed the evidence, but Tara saw those letters, too, so she has leverage she can use at any time. Gemma gets too bold, Tara can tell Jax, which would create a rift between Jax and his mother, one I don't think she could ever repair.

Boardwalk Empire Episode 11 recap: Under God's Power She Flourishes In this episode everybody's past pretty much come back to haunt them: First off, the ghost of Hans Schroeder comes back to rear its ugly head. It effects Nucky, Margaret and Eli. Eli, who is in jail after being arrested by the feds on the orders of Esther Randolph, based on information provided by Deputy Halloran. His lawyer says if he admits to murdering Schroeder because Nucky ordered him to, he can get life in Prison, instead of being put to death via the Electric Chair. Nucky, on the order hand is telling Margaret to prepare for the worst. Both has been subpoenaed by the Federal Government. Margaret, feeling that God is punishing her for all the wrong she has done, as well as her daughter(who has contracted polio), is thinking about testifying, and tells Nucky such. He warns her not to do it, and even though he doesn't says it plainly, he indicted that he will kill her, or at least have her killed, if she does. Mickey Doyle get a wake up call, too. Realizing that Jimmy Darmody can not handle the reins of power, Mickey, Al Capone, Meyer Lanksy, and Lucky Luciano sell the liquor among them. They are chatting Jimmy won't be coming back because his wife and her girlfriend was killed. Mickey tells them that it was Manny Horovitz that did it. When Doyle asks when Jimmy comes back looking for his share, the other three tells them to pay him out of his share. When Mickey ain't down with that, Luciano reminds him that because of a life insurance policy he signed with Arnold Rothstein in the first season, that he is actually worth more dead than alive, so he best do what they say. And we get to see Jimmy in his college days, before he enlisted to fight in France in World War I. There, at Princeton he meets Angela for the 1st time, and she seems to be a friend with "benefits" type of girl. When Jimmy gets her pregnant, he gives her a roundabout marriage proposal. They really don't know each other very well, so it seems the pregnancy is the only reason why they got married in the 1st place. His mom, Gillian, comes up to visit him. It is revealed even at this stage, Nucky had influence and power enough to make this happen. Gillian meets Angela, and Gillian is still young and pretty, so a lot of the college guys flirt with her. One of Jimmy's teachers gets a little too frisky, its not really clear if he tried to raped her or just got too rough with her, but something obviously happened, and Jimmy beats his ass down. As Jimmy takes his mom, who is drunk to his dorm room to sleep it off, we learn Gillian loves her son TOO DAMN MUCH. I remember when she is in a previous episode told Angela when she changed his diaper when he was a baby, she used to kiss his "little winkie". :yuckky: Anyway, when Jimmy is helping her get to sleep, she tells him how she used to lay with him when he was a baby and that it felt like they were alone in the world. We he goes to kiss his mom and the forehead, Gillian instead kisses him on the lips, tells him "There's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with any of it" and they proceed to have sex with each other. :x That is so wrong on so many so many levels. If there is one thing you shouldn't put your penis in, it is the vagina YOU CAME OUT OF!!! Sure, she was drunk, but she knew what she was doing. After all, she initiated it. Anyway, he wakes up, mother's gone, and he seems to realize the severity of what he has done with his own mother, she the troops outside his window, and decides to enlist in the Army that same day. Even our favorite lawman we love to hate Buren Van Alden gets caught up. In talking to Nucky, one of his black servants mention that his church, while doing baptisms in a nearby river, that Van Alden drowned a agent who worked with him, Agent Sorbo. This came to light of the U.S. Assistant Attorney General Esther Randolph( base on Mabel Walker Willebrandt ). When a lawmen at her office tried to arrest him, he shot the lawman in the leg and ran. Jimmy eventually got the news that his wife was murdered, and he was sad about it. His mother, of course, who didn't like her anyway, doesn't care. She is so cold, acting like it was no big deal, and they will just move on like nothing happened. Even when talking to him, Gillian says they should tell his son that his mom went away to draw, then tell him that she went to live with her friends in Paris and wanted him to stay with his father. While Jimmy is sitting there with tears in his eyes, she goes to suggest that her grandson will eventually not remember who she is. Jimmy gets up, grabs his mother by the neck say "I'LL REMEMBER, I'LL REMEMBER". He appears that in his fit of rage he might choke his mother to death, so the Commodore attacks him with a stick. Despite him having a stroke, he pins Jimmy to the wall, and put the stick to Jimmy to his neck, chocking him. However, the stick breaks and winds up stabbing the Commodore with it in the stomach. When Jimmy pulls it out, his mom tells him to finish him off, sho he stabs him again in the chest. He did get injured in the shoulder, but I'm guessing it was from the fall her had after he killed the Commodore. As he comes to, he sees his his friend Richard Harrow cleaning up the scene. Jimmy son, Tommy is there to see him. When he asks where his mom is at, Gillian says "I'm here. Everything's fine". She grabs him to put him to bed. Before she goes up, she forgives Jimmy for choking her, saying he didn't mean it, and that it never has to be mentioned again. She even feels like she would be a better mother to her grandson than Angela would be a mother. She even suggested to Angela that she can have her youthful adventures and she would raise Tommy when Jimmy was in Chicago working for Torrio and with Capone. So, next season, the finale. They flash it quick, but it looks like Chalky White and the blacks who help run A.C. will get their share, even taking over importing the liquor. I'm eager to see what else transpires.