Oooh I read that wrong. My apologies on that one.
I've never argued about liking that stuff or not. All I'm doing is to point the fact that it remains being music and those who make it are real musicians.
Yeah, don't twist my words. I said:
Which I rounded with:
Those are the basics of the tonal system: the Major scale, tritone found in the dominant chord and the V7 -> I resolution. Everything else comes as a consequence of this and as an add on to these basic aspects.
I don't know how bringing the circle of fifths changes any of this.
The music proves it itself.
And...
"Mahler was the source of the Second Viennese School"
You're denial on this is like saying that Oasis has no Beatles influence. Or that Judas Priest has no Queen influence. Or that Steve Vai took no influence from Satriani or Zappa...
The point here is: no music comes out of nowhere. Not even the weirdest atonal and serial stuff..
And I still don't understand why it seems to "hurt" (for the lack of a better word) you so much that the likes of Mahler, Wagner, Strauss, etc are important influences for composers as Schoenberg, Webern, Boulez, etc