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Hannah #1 IT'S WHAT SHE DESERVES

I wasn't a massive fan of the 2011 rookie class as it had both Kenza Fourati and Shannan Click and both girls I strongly don't like, the last great rookie class was 2013 with Em Didonato, Hannah Davis, Natasha Barnard and Kate Bock. Overall I think 2012 and 2013 were pretty okay even though I wasn't a massive fan of either cover (Kate was great, but they chose very bad pictures), 2014 was already kinda underwhelming even tho the cast was still quite solid, 2015 had some amazing shoots (like Nina and Hannah F's) but also some very meh ones and there were some bad casting choices that none of us agreed with, but 2016 was the first year we were all collectively in shock at how bad it was and it has just gone downhill from there with this year hitting a new low. I remember complaining about Julie Henderson and Jessica Gomes being a magazine back then... Little did I know I'd come to miss them both My main question is tho, what happened to photographers like Walter and Bjorn Iooss? Ben Watts? James Macari? Derek Kettela? None of them have been back and they were all pretty good (unless they got fired for being gross, in which case I get it) EDIT: There's more Raphael Mazzucco, Kayt Jones, Riccardo Tinelli, Stewart Shing... Honestly now that I'm noticing, it seems like their best photographers stopped working with them? IDK but a lot of them haven't shot in the last two years or more and I think it really shows in how bad and boring the photography has become.

She has been done with VS for a while, I'm pretty sure her contract expired in late 2019 along with Candice and Martha. None of them were included in the Mother's Day campaign (huge sign for Candice, one of the only two Angels with kids) nor have they've been in any of the "at home" content and their only pictures in VS' social media are from older shoots but none of them have done VS since at least the very small Christmas stuff from last year, for context, even Romee who is pregnant is still showing up with new content in the VS social media so it is odd af these women are MIA. More importantly, VS did not wish Martha a Happy Birthday like they do every year with all the angels so sis is gone. The VSxFLL collab was probably in the FLL end, they have been putting models that don't do VS or haven't done VS in years like Edita, Hailey, Georgia May and others and we know Elsa has worked for FLL before and hopefully she will work more with them now because their work together was always A+ quality. As far as the agency change goes, CAA is not a modeling agency, it's more of a talent/PR firm and they handle girls like Heidi, Rosie, Alessandra, K-Upton, Leomie, Candice and Adriana, this probably means Elsa is ready to start expanding her business beyond modeling even more which doesn't come as a surprise at all... MAYBE SHE WILL FINALLY RELEASE THE GODDAMN CLOTHING LINE!?!?!?! Because all the other girls have released licensed deals since joining CAA so maybe this is why Elsa went there. So just in case, let's all start saving them coins for it.

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Tati should just trademark Choices tbh, it's all I think about when I hear it as well But yeah, a lot of people gave VS shit for giving certain Angels bad outfits, but we've known since the Heidi/Gisele days that top dogs get to pretty much choose their outfits. These women have no one to blame but themselves for the poor outfit choices, like Adriana had the most gorgeous outfit to open in 2010 but sis changed it to the meh one she got because she wanted to be more comfortable as well.

I think the last time I was like WOW, was probably 2012. 2013 and 2014 were good, not mind-blowing but still good, 2015 was already shaky and 2016 was IMO the beginning of the disaster we now have.

According to Google, MJ became Senior Editor in 2014, I'm not sure when in 2014 but this means even the 2015 issue was influenced by the previous editor because they start working in the magazine with a lot of time so I'm sure 2015 was a mix of the previous editor and MJ, so the first time we got a magazine 100% under MJ's reign was 2016. Here's some things that happened in 2016: - Hannah Ferguson was robbed of the cover. - Ashley Graham made her debut in SI and got a cover. - Ronda Rousey made her debut and also got a cover. - Barbara Palvin was a rookie and her career bounced back, probably the best decision from that year. - It was the last year for Irina Shayk, Emily Didonato, Gigi Hadid, Lily Aldridge. - Mia Kang somehow beat the likes of Caroline Kelly, Daniela López Osorio, Kyra Santoro and Megan Williams in the first of any horrible Model Searches. In contrast, 2015 gave us the beautiful All-American locations issue with Hannah Davis on the cover, a rookie class that had Erin Heatherton, Hailey Clauson, Rose Bertram and Solveig among others. The previous editor, Diane Smith was with the magazine since 1999 and we all know 1999-2013 were damn good editions, 2014 was good too, 2015 was okay and after that it has all become a trainwreck so I'm sorry but I do blame the direction of the magazine on MJ because things started to go downhill the minute she has full power.

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Her original music is so good, she really needs to pursue singing more

The interview for FNI was actually quite nice, the interviewer was really good and covered so many different topics and Adriana was so open about so many things. I enjoyed it quite a lot.

Here's Adriana talking about ending her VS career and her overall experience with the brand, she also says her voice was heard regarding the VSFS outfits, which means this woman really wanted those ugly ass outfits she got

So many good shoots recently, I'm loving all her recent work, it seems like she gained a bit of weight back and it looks great on her. I think this long break has been actually pretty good to a lot of girls.

Alright folks, COVID-19 discussion ends here. I will be deleting any further posts regarding the matter and handing warnings, this is Taylor's thread, if you strongly want to discuss the global pandemic take it to PMs or threads that are better suited for it, we are being bombarded by COVID information in literally every single platform there is, the last thing people want is to come to a model's thread and have to read even more about it.

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From her Insta I'm so proud of her for opening up about her struggles and trying to help at least a little bit those who are going through the same. Elsa has always been a pro in our eyes and if she hadn't said anything the odds are we would have never known about it at all and she could have kept that image of just being perfect, so I appreciate it a lot that she is showing a more human, vulnerable, real side of her and the industry as well. I've always been a massive fan but this just made me like her even more.

I'm 100% sure they get to stay in the places for free or at a very low rate. Due to COVID-19 I'm sure there will be several places desperate for some promotion in SI, so hopefully MJ and her people will make some good choices instead of giving us the same painfully used and abused Caribbean resort.

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I don't even have a problem with them using beaches because like, it's a swimsuit issue so I do understand they need to showcase them in beaches and yadda yadda, my problem is with them going to the same places every year, how many times have they been to Bali? Too many, same with Maldives, the Virgin Islands, the Bahamas and other places, they keep re-using the same locations over and over again and we've seen them all before. There's more beaches and beach towns out there that they could go to: La Guajira, Colombia - A desert area that meets a beautiful beach, also in the area one of Colombia's pink seas and the salines in Manuare and Cabo La Vela Cartagena, Colombia - A beautiful colonial town by the coast Palawan, Phillippines - Gorgeous beaches but also a bit of jungle, best of both worlds Iceland - Literally any beach in Iceland, not only are the beaches gorgeous but you also are like minutes away from glaciers, volcanoes, waterfalls and the most amazing places you could ask for Norway - Again, any beach or fjord in Norway will do the trick, I particularly think Lofoten is the best but the country is full of amazing places, also Northern Lights! Patagonia, Argentina - Good beaches? Check. Mountains? Check. Lakes? Check. Penguins? YES. Overall Patagonia has like a thousand good beaches where they can go, I don't know much about the Chilean side but I'm sure it's also amazing And this is just top of my head, remembering places where I've been or I know my friends have been to. The problem isn't the constant beach shoots, it's the fact that they always go to the same places, there's more to beaches than water and sand but clearly people over at SI don't know that, they go to the most basic places time after time and don't even take the time to explore it, they just go and stay in some resort and that's it. I understand most trips are probably sponsored but they could at least try to get some more interesting sponsors, they're just lazy.

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I think calling Erin one of their sexiest Angels is a reach, particularly considering she was an Angel at the same time as Adriana, Alessandra, Rosie and Candice who all had longer, better VS careers and were a lot more prominent than she was, Erin was never going to be top dog within VS and that's a fact, I'm pretty sure they would have let her go around the same time they let Lindsay Ellingson go, she was quickly replaced by girl who now have higher profiles than Erin ever did, she's not one of those girls than once they are gone the brand is missing something big like when Gisele, Heidi, Tyra and Adriana left. Were they assholes? Yes, but the fact is that she had signed a contract saying she had to look a certain way, and the industry had different standards back then, VS girls were not even allowed to drastically change their hair without telling VS first if you are neglecting your job, regardless of the industry you will get shit for it. And still, trash-talking your former employee is never a good idea, never, ever, especially when the said employee was the reason why you be came relevant in the first place. Why would other brands want to associate themselves with a girl who could potentially go talk shit about them in the future? That's a hard pass for most of companies. SI was a whole different ball game, the last year she was with them it was a mess whenever she was doing press which is very unprofessional and again, I don't think that's something you can quite make a comeback from.

Oh yeah she is definitely looking better now than she did before, but she is also just 18 (or 19? idk) so it's normal she's still growing into her body and I'm sure that that as mentioned, being away from work for such a long time has been a good thing for her as well, I think that's the case with most of models. I'm kind of hoping fashion week will be cancelled just so the girls can have a break from it because it is brutal on them. But I don't think Kaia will ever have the va-va-voom body Cindy was known for, that's what I meant, I think if anything she'll be more of the Candice/Elsa type of girl, tall, lean and with a nice shape that if used properly will do wonders for her, which I think it's the case in the Vogue Japan editorial, she looks amazing there and you can tell she really has awareness of how to use her body. Which makes her one of the exception from the nepo girls who just look the same in every single picture

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Oh yeah she burned a lot of bridges, not with just those two brands but since those were the ones mentioned we addressed those. Does she even have an agency these days?

Welcome back hun No one knows, they've been working with a gazillion girls lately and not using the alleged Angels as much I think at this point the only ones I'm 100% sure about are Taylor and Romee and that's because I recall VS wishing them a happy birthday recently