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He wasn't? I just assumed. But ok even if he wasn't there for Christmas, my point kind of remains the same. He was at her house. Around her kids... etc. I agree that it's annoying but it's kind of hard NOT to think about because he's actually changing what we see of her. It's not like he's in the background or dating her and we don't like him and it's just that. He is trying to play a role in the route her career goes or doesn't go. And I feel he is influencing what we care about as fans. It's kind of hard not to be concerned about it tbh.

I feel that if their relationship was solid in any sense though he wouldn't have to be reactive to a break up rumor let alone OVER reactive. I know this is a hard point to really debate, because how would an egotistical and insecure man react to gossip to him and adriana breaking up? It could be that they can have a stable relationship from the perspective of Adriana and he can still freak out. But really this is kind of the fall out of the way that he is. I mean that's what you get boo. You've built a relationship on trying to manipulate, so much so that he has to police every comment he receives. I mean no matter what happens or whether they're in a good place or not, maybe he'll just ALWAYS be that way. My mom always says that shady / manipulative people are always suspicious of others because they assume/project their traits onto others. And often times those types of people are ALWAYS in panic and paranoid. No matter how good things are, they're worried because they're frauds in some sense.

You guys have brought this up before but I just wanted to reiterate. No body from Adriana's personal life follows Metin or has shown any appreciation for him. No one from her family. And this isn't some one off thing like with Matt Harvey. This man has been with her for half a year. He was at HER house for Christmas. He has met HER children. He has been at least introduced to SOME family and yet no one has any desire to even make an appearance based connection with him at all. I think that's strange and like you all have said. Telling.

I think that's actually a very good point. I didn't think about this. And I think skeptics might say it's a reach in that you can't deduce something like that from grammar, but at the same time she has a lot of posts on instagram and it's not hard to pick up on patterns and the best evidence is that most of the time she's writing in english and we can understand exactly what she means and there's no misinterpretations for the most part. I always like to think of counter points when I'm considering the likelihood of a point , and I think there's something to be said about the fact that Adriana rarely makes LONG posts, so there is a chance that part of what's happened is due to the length of the post and there was bound to be a misinterpretation or miscommunication due to it. But having been on here and observing her relationship with Metin, we can't really say that because we're NOT impartial observers that have no context. We have the context of his manipulation and know what he's been up to. And with all of those pieces together. I agree with you and I think this is a pretty important thing to note.

This is what I think maybe happened (and of course feel free to point out why I could be wrong-- just a thought). I think for whatever reason Adriana was upset with Metin and what people on instagram were maybe saying (since so many people have been pointing this out) made her somewhat suspicious of Metin in SOME way. Not saying she agrees with what she reads but maybe there was SOMETHING she read somewhere that resonated with her and it caused a fight between her and Metin. Because Metin does NOT always take to making a public statement or anything. I mean he's a bit dramatic but even for him making a comment like that about suing people who say things about him that are untrue and things about their love? It sounds like maybe they came close to breaking up because Adriana pointed out that actually he is a little bit manipulative. It's hard to explain but she can read comments and be able to bring them up while still think the best of Metin. But maybe she read something about him being controlling and even if she doesn't believe it, challenged him in SOME way. Or in general maybe she read anything public that put Metin in a bad light and there was a chance of a break up. Because why else would Metin get spooked enough to do it *now*? Right? I mean I feel he was afraid of a break up and just lashed out. I could be wrong but I can't think of any other reason for him to take the route he did. We know that he likes to manufacture things to bring attention on himself. But there are so many ways to get attention . That specific post, it was for attention YES but from how I perceived it, there was some kind of paranoia there. Some kind of angst. What do you guys think?

^ You don't really have to go there or comment about it if you don't want to. And I'm sure that those things have been discussed and entertained before, but I'm not familiar so I'm going to have the conversation anyway (to the extent that someone replies or has insight that's new to me). I do agree that it's exhaustive in itself talking about Metin. In my opinion all of the last four years have been riddled with jerks and emotionally manipulative individuals that have taken advantage of her, she should try to learn from it by being more cautious of those she gives her time and love to. Things don't change by doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Part of the gamble of dating is that no one can guarantee that the people we choose to date are going to be stand up characters with no shadiness. But in Adriana's case there seems to be a lot of clues in the instances I've observed. I wish she could get better at recognizing them.

That's fair. I don't know much about her relationship with Marko and it's possible they weren't stable. I just assumed that for a certain period of time they had been, just due to being at the point of getting married and having two kids and etc. It's strange that it feels like she and marko split such a long time ago but it was just in 2014. Not that long ago. Yet at the same time it feels like it has been longer and she has spent her time with losers since.

The midnight selfish was so beautiful she was glowing around that time in general

I can't really think in line of "who are we to judge" when it comes to emotional matters because we essentially judge almost everything when it comes to Adriana, and IMO it's always from the spirit of wanting good for her. And so it seems more excusable. And again I don't think that other people doing something, makes it more acceptable or makes it ok. Celebrities do things I disagree with all the time. I still wouldn't want Adriana to do them as in some cases it would change how I feel about her as a person. When it comes to these childish behaviors that stem from emotion... I judge her in that I think she needs to grow up and stop. But I still hope for it from a place of some concern rather than just wanting to ridicule. It for me translates like she's a little bit unhinged and frantic, always. Has she had any stable relationships after Marko?

I know right? I think it wouldn't happen. I don't think adriana would want it to given some of the drama they deal with but the more he might feel his relationship is in danger the more public or outspoken he seems to be. I can see him manipulating her or being a nightmare about it. Ugh. No girl... noooooo

^ she looks absolutely amazing. Never seen this before, thank you!!

I know it's not likely but imagine this... Metin on the red carpet with her at the award season events in jan/feb I think I would actually cry for her. Leprechaun / Leper would milk that carpet press so damn hard. Smh.

OH we disagree. I mentioned that she doesn't give us new pictures. And I totally agree that she's not obsessed with Instagram in the way that many models are. Like she won't spend an hour getting the perfect picture for ig. Or care about her page aesthetic like Devon Windsor. She definitely doesn't care about Instagram as it relates to her brand. But in my opinion she still cares about Instagram obsessively in other ways. Even if it's a way to channel her emotions. It's like she's 16. You might say that has more to do with her emotions than ig, sure but ig is the platform she uses to channel that and I do think that even if it's for herself and not for the sake of appearances, she uses ig as an outlet and it's kind of lame. Like a grown woman unfollowing and following her boyfriend fifty five times. You can argue that it's not obsessive or lame but this being something clearly subjective **personally** I would argue that it's absurd and reminds me of 16 year olds that update their Facebook status every time they fight with their boyfriend. They still choose to focus / obsess with that platform to make a point to themselves. It's really childish IMO. And I don't care how many female celebrities or male celebrities do it. Still childish and makes her seem like a bumbling child. I just want her to for once be in a relationship and not have to immediately after a fight think, oh you know what? Let me go to Instagram and unfollow him, I'm mad at him. Only so they can make up the next hour and she uses ig as a form of establishing it to herself. Sorry I clearly feel strongly about this being a childish tactic and in my opinion she should try not to get on ig after every bout of emotion.

Mte. I bet he's behind it. Watch him get rid of it and make a new one now that the most obvious thing is called out. Why does adriana care so much about ig. I know metin is lame. But I wish adriana didn't live on there. And she does. She takes her emotions out through ig. It's sad that we don't even get a lot of posts out of her ig obsession.

+1. I was telling another user on here that one thing these situations have done for me is kind of speak to the idea that Adriana is not a person that is very smart or has a lot of common sense. I know many will disagree and that's totally fair, some might say that it's not fair to judge people who are in love. But for me if you are going to be 40 soon, blind love is no longer viable for an excuse. It's pretty disturbing actually the inability to make smart choices when it comes to this because she's exposing this man to her loved ones too. But mostly it's shocking because he is so obvious and like some of you point out its not even just her dedicated fans that have picked up on leprechauns agenda. Random people on ig are putting two and two together.

Here is the horrible ig translation incase anyone is curious. And by the way I love Adriana's skin glow in that picture. Despite who she is next to.

So Metin followed an Instagram "A1heellooo" I'm pretty sure this is either his private account or a private account of adrianas.

Guys think about how desperate he is. He posted that story with Minnie but it wasn't even a video and it wasn't a picture where you could see the full dog or even the face? Like there was zero point in posting just minnie's fur. All he wanted was to capture his hand on her dog. He's so see through. SO SAD. At least be a little bit smarter in your tactics you psycho.

I also think she doesn't care much about privacy in this context. It seems like she was really pissed at him and is working her way back to being normal with him . When they're on a good standing I'm sure she will post a picture of them together. Lame.

Also, do they follow each other? When I search who they're following they don't show up. However on their actual pages it says they are followed by each other. Glitch?

But if it is I'm sure metin is soon going to post a "subtle" Instagram picture where we can see part of the shoe lmao

MTE. Like you're a leprechaun that found the pot of gold and you have the luxury of being able to spend time with/date ADRIANA LIMA. Why are you on instagram?! And it's not even like he's just sharing a post. Every time I check the activity page, he has done something on instagram within the last 15-20 minutes. Regardless of the time of day.

I wouldn't be surprised if he filmed it for attention either but *SHE* uploaded it (booooo) TBH The miami location tagging was unnecessary but not any more or so than the rest of the post which was a novel about her and their love. I agree it's super obvious, but the entire caption was extremely obvious and makes me shake my head. Can someone that speaks Turkish translate the full text? I want to know if there's something I'm missing out on due to having to rely on a translator. I also love the "I am silently watching the malicious endeavors that try to make me look like someone else" SILENTLY WATCHING? By deleting any comment that paints you in a bad light, Metin?

Why did they unfollow each other if he was going to post this

^ usually when a woman changes herself for the person she happens to be dating, the woman is closer to age 16 than 36. Not to say that it can't happen to women in their late 30s but it means that they're not grounded in who they are in a strong enough way. Insecurity and the need for a man shouldn't define you. But for adriana it seems to. And that's depressing.