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tons more appeared today:

 

Unknown, the first probably Russian Guard (militarized police), with the black uniforms and the tactical shield.  One soldier has an anti-drone EMP gun.


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Russian Spetznaz, good close ups of their battledress.  Rifle grenades carried in 5-pouch packs.

 

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Russian Guard (militarized police) Spetnaz

 

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Russian paratroops after the raid of the H-airport (at the same spot of Ukraine's first lady.)  That particular ruined aircraft has become symbolic:

 

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Afterwards the fighting near the capital (also Russian paratroops with their airborne troop carriers).  

 

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paratroop battledress:

 

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frontline war correspondent, Yuriy Butusov, editor-in-chief of Censor.net  (Ukrainian journalist) had these claims passed around on social media yesterday.  The Russians are performing breakthrough operations on the Adviika axis.  The town of Peski was flattened yesterday.  This fortress region is a defense in depth, satellite images show endless trench lines in a checker-box pattern. :

 

 

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Daniil Bezsonov, spokesperson for the DRP put these claims up on telegram.  This can be seen as an example of the current Russian narrative- portraying the Donbass as a meatgrinder, a daily massacre:

 

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The whole front in Donbas is boiling.
Every day our troops are building their offensive potential in all directions. Slowly but surely we move forward, liberating village after village, height after height. Novolugansk is ours, which means that the next village will be Kodema, from where the enemy most often delivers artillery strikes on Gorlovka. And then Bakhmut (Artyomovsk).

Everything is going according to plan and we are moving forward. Our every step is preceded by diligent work of reconnaissance and artillery units.

Often (not for military expediency, but for informational and political reasons) Ukrainian soldiers have to hold every piece of land while suffering huge losses. Therefore, any settlement that is under our control is, first of all, a huge loss for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yes, every time the military-political leadership of Ukraine announces an organized retreat of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to "more advantageous" positions, which practically means defeat.

To date, no more than 10% of the Ukrainian military that was here at the beginning of the military operation remains on the territory of Donbass. The rest were killed, seriously wounded, deserted or captured. In their place came "fresh cannon fodder" in the face of territorial defense and mobilized. Yes, defense is much easier than attack, and there are still many people in Ukraine, but the motivation and skills are not the same.

In the not too distant future, the day will come when the remnants of the defense potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be exhausted and our troops will rush in an avalanche. But until then we must continue to deal slowly, carefully and methodically with the enemy in order to preserve the lives of our soldiers.

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These "leaked documents" have been getting viral on social media.  

 

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What makes them unusual is that if legit- and not Russian propaganda, they disclose a casualty leak on the Ukrainian armed forces.

 

- Ukrainian combat units an average of 43-48% strength.  

- 191,000 casualties (KIA and WIA, not including MIA) for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

 

These numbers are approx. what I expected.  Minimum 200 killed a day for the first 162 days of the war is 32,400 dead, times 6 to include wounded and the sum total is 194,400 casualties. (KIA and WIA, no MIA)

 

However I do not know if "AFU" includes territorial defense, national guard, and other Ukrainian paramilitary formations which constituted approx. half of pre-war land forces (320, 000) men.

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The combat trials in the Ukraine have revealed quite a bit about Lockheed Martin's HIMARs' capabilities.  The HIMARs is kind of like a poor man's short-range ballistic missile.  It is cheaper than short ranged, self propelled ballistic missile launchers but much more expensive than heavy MLRS.

 

Like short ranged ballistic missile launchers and heavy MLRS firing special ammunition, it has very good range and accuracy, and can attack targets into the operational depths (eg. over 100 KM).  

 

But the weakness of the weapon is its high cost (each projectile is 150K dollars) and low payload  (120 KG explosives) so it has problems taking out hardened targets, like bridges.  The high cost means that it cannot be used as regular artillery for area barrages.  The Ukrainians are using them as reserve weapons.

 

In comparison the Russian short ranged ballistic missiles have 500KG explosives (Iskander) and cruise missiles have 400 KG explosives.

 

The HIMARs concept might work if Lockheed Martin continues to lower the price.  Currently it is a bit of a weird weapon as it combines accuracy/range with lack of firepower.  The Russian heavy MLRS has special ammunition that combines both high firepower and high accuracy/range.  

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First video has Krasnopol laser guided artillery shell by drone.  The second one is an artillery strike by regular artillery.  The laser guidance is typically done by ground troops or the Orlan-10 and other laser-equipped drones.  What makes the first video interesting is that the tank is moving.   The drone follows the tank and guides the shell.

 

The shells of the Krasnopol cost some $23,000.  The US excalibur costs a few times more.  A T-72 modernized that costs half a million dollars- and far more with serving costs- gets knocked out by a single guided shell.  M1 Abrams, Panther tanks, and other Western tanks that cost up to 20 million dollars each are in a bad state now.

 

 There are long ranged ATGM mounted on IFVs, infantrymen have high quality ATGMs themselves.  Modern artillery destroys them with precision strikes.  Airpower destroys them.  Ballistic missiles destroys them.  In this day and age, the tank is so gimped from a cost effectiveness POV.  

 

Their tactical utility has declined to the level of open-topped SPGs of WW2 now, which due to their light armor were only conditionally useful as infantry support and defensive anti-tank weapons.  They could not close with the enemy.  

 

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I have caught up recently with the Ukraine war with new sources and I understand it better now.

 

1. In the first week of July, the Russian command halted in front of the Zelensky line and effectively performed an operational pause.  It is evident that they assessed that they did not have the strength to retake the remainder of the Donbass.

 

So they initiated full-scale artillery and air offensive on 7/5 but winded down to limited ground operations.  They gradually withdrew Russian professional military units from the Donbass and relocated them North and South, or back to Russia.  The current announcement of an operational pause comes 1 1/2 months too late. 

 

2. 2/3rds of the Russian army in the Ukraine is now in the rear and not holding the frontline.  This suggests that the Ukrainian military is not seen as much of a threat to them.   Russian air force has increased in size to 430 aircraft, 360 helicopters.

 

3. The Russians hugely expanded the Separatist militas with tanks, armored infantry vehicles, and artillery with many new mechanized infantry formations, new tank units, and new motorized infantry units. They now constitute a legitimate militia army and are actually the ones holding and attacking in the Donbass.  Currently they are performing limited operations in reducing the defense-in depth, slowly grinding it away.

 

4. The Ukrainian professional army has likely already been destroyed by the Russians, with remnants melting into a large, ill-equipped militia army.  The Donbass is now a siege of sorts, containing a large portion of Ukraine's army and is getting heavy strikes everyday, taking losses.  The longer this occurs the force that holds it will degrade.  The Western wonder weapons continue to inflict small setbacks to the Russians, that taken together incrementally slows them down.

 

5.  Putin increased the size of the Russian military by 137,000.  This and other signals implies that sometime in the Fall, the Russians will launch a strategic offensive with a rebuilt and refitted army to attack Ukraine.

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6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

I have caught up recently with the Ukraine war with new sources and I understand it better now.

 

1. In the first week of July, the Russian command halted in front of the Zelensky line and effectively performed an operational pause.  It is evident that they assessed that they did not have the strength to retake the remainder of the Donbass.

 

So they initiated full-scale artillery and air offensive on 7/5 but winded down to limited ground operations.  They gradually withdrew Russian professional military units from the Donbass and relocated them North and South, or back to Russia.  The current announcement of an operational pause comes 1 1/2 months too late. 

 

2. 2/3rds of the Russian army in the Ukraine is now in the rear and not holding the frontline.  This suggests that the Ukrainian military is not seen as much of a threat to them.   Russian air force has increased in size to 430 aircraft, 360 helicopters.

 

3. The Russians hugely expanded the Separatist militas with tanks, armored infantry vehicles, and artillery with many new mechanized infantry formations, new tank units, and new motorized infantry units. They now constitute a legitimate militia army and are actually the ones holding and attacking in the Donbass.  Currently they are performing limited operations in reducing the defense-in depth, slowly grinding it away.

 

4. The Ukrainian professional army has likely already been destroyed by the Russians, with remnants melting into a large, ill-equipped militia army.  The Donbass is now a siege of sorts, containing a large portion of Ukraine's army and is getting heavy strikes everyday, taking losses.  The longer this occurs the force that holds it will degrade.  The Western wonder weapons continue to inflict small setbacks to the Russians, that taken together incrementally slows them down.

 

5.  Putin increased the size of the Russian military by 137,000.  This and other signals implies that sometime in the Fall, the Russians will launch a strategic offensive with a rebuilt and refitted army to attack Ukraine.

 

 

 

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haha.

 

Some breaking news recently.  

 

Russia has raised a "Third Army Corps" to be sent to the Donbass.  This formation appears to be 2nd rate in training but with good weapons (T-80, T-90, AK-12, body armor 6B45 series, BMP-3, Buk Air defense systems, etc.  This is visually confirmed.  

 

There are a lot of rumors about this formation, including order of battle and possible size.  60,000-15,000? 

 

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On 8/29/2022 at 6:39 AM, Cult Icon said:

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haha.

 

Some breaking news recently.  

 

Russia has raised a "Third Army Corps" to be sent to the Donbass.  This formation appears to be 2nd rate in training but with good weapons (T-80, T-90, AK-12, body armor 6B45 series, BMP-3, Buk Air defense systems, etc.  This is visually confirmed.  

 

There are a lot of rumors about this formation, including order of battle and possible size.  60,000-15,000? 

 

 

Apparently this force primarily consists out of older recruits (40+) lured in by the fat signing bonus, who have gotten only 3-4 weeks of training. I don't believe they will be a huge factor in the conflict, other than more bodies to throw into the bear pit.

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4 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

Apparently this force primarily consists out of older recruits (40+) lured in by the fat signing bonus, who have gotten only 3-4 weeks of training. I don't believe they will be a huge factor in the conflict, other than more bodies to throw into the bear pit.

 

There are some rumors that they are old and there are a fat signing bonus.  It is probably more like "all age groups".

 

I think they will be a significant factor despite the media's claims.  South of the Donbass arc the Russians have created many penetrations in the line. The 1st and 2nd Army Corps are similar to this unit. (2nd Rate)  The Ukrainian army in the Donbass is in horrific shape.

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14 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

Once in a while, there's a good article in the Huffington Post

 

 

 

I'm not Che apologist but this is kind of a stupid take. He died 55 years ago. Homophobia was then still wide-spread, not just on the right but also on the left.

Also he was a macho revolutionary, not exactly the kind of person I'd even expect to have progressive ideas about sexual preference.

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I worked out the order of battle (open source) in the Donbass and these are my notes. 8/14.  The fighting has been conducted mainly by Ukrainian separatists vs the Ukrainian army.  3rd Army Corps is likely to be inserted on the Southern half of the salient:

 

6 Separatist tank companies
7 Mechanized infantry brigades
9 Mechanized infantry regiments/battalions
2 Mechanized infantry companies
6 motorized companies

plus Approx. a dozen plus (unknown) Russian military combat battalions at the front w/ 3-4 in the rear

are facing:

22 Ukrainian brigades, 2 regiments, 4 battalions, 7 companies

 

Some rumors that this unit is not a "BTG" but a large "O" division.  I suspect that the Russians will continuing painting the Southern side of the salient red with artillery and airstrikes, then use this big unit to mop up positions. 

 

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9 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

I'm not Che apologist but this is kind of a stupid take. He died 55 years ago. Homophobia was then still wide-spread, not just on the right but also on the left.

Also he was a macho revolutionary, not exactly the kind of person I'd even expect to have progressive ideas about sexual preference.

 

 

Interesting how people who say "I'm not xxxx, but..." sometimes end up being exactly xxxx. :rolleyes: 

 

You're a shrewd guy, so you already know it.

 

Che Guevara was homophobic, racist, a torturer... There's no excuse. His nickname "the butcher of La Cabaña" illustrates how he tortured thousands of political opponents (in a typical far-leftist way). Many witnessed him laughing after torturing opponents.

 

This guy is despicable, but since he's a far-leftist, he still gets the love from many. Communism killed 50+ million people in the 20th century, but whatever...

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