The Political Correctness Haters' Club

[SympathysSilhouette]

1 minute ago, Cult Icon said:

Western/Northern European politics come across as very similar to US city politics on the East/West coast (particularly the inner city).  The big sell is "equalism".

 

Industrialized areas are usually hotbeds of socialist politics.

 

It was like this in the Soviet Union as well, with the cities/factories being communist havens while rural areas could be hostile to the communists.  Marx and his supporters (factory workers) emerged from the British industrial zones.

 

I mean beyond that. e.g. most people would identify Democrats as left-wing, but the right-wing of the Democratic party would be very much a right-wing party within the Belgian reality. Of course part of the reason for this is that we don't have a two-party system, thus the spectrum is more fractional.

[Cult Icon]

10 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

I mean beyond that. e.g. most people would identify Democrats as left-wing, but the right-wing of the Democratic party would be very much a right-wing party within the Belgian reality. Of course part of the reason for this is that we don't have a two-party system, thus the spectrum is more fractional.

 

What do you mean, exactly?  on what issues?

 

The thing with national politics is that they are like a crude sledgehammer.  If you were to 'average' the politics from a wide variety of eco-systems, you might get something like that.

 

 The thing with the US (330 M people) is that there are also regional politics.    The details are in the state, local and city politics.   For instance, the NY Metro area has a bigger population base than Belgium and northern european countries.  The politics are far left by national standards and shouldn't be too different from W/N europe..?

[SympathysSilhouette]

Just now, Cult Icon said:

 

What do you mean, exactly?  on what issues?

 

The thing with national politics is that they are like a crude sledgehammer.  If you were to 'average' the politics from a wide variety of eco-systems, you might get something like that.

 

  The details are in the local and city politics.  The thing with the US (330 M people) is that there are also regional politics.  For instance, the NY Metro area has a bigger population base than Belgium and northern european countries.  The politics are far left by national standards and shouldn't be too different from W/N europe..?

 

On a variety of issues. e.g. even the Christian Democrats have no interest in changing our gay marriage and euthanasia rights back to their 20th century versions. That entire debate has shifted so much it's not longer a left-right issue (other than in the extreme of the far-right).

[Cult Icon]

7 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

On a variety of issues. e.g. even the Christian Democrats have no interest in changing our gay marriage and euthanasia rights back to their 20th century versions. That entire debate has shifted so much it's not longer a left-right issue (other than in the extreme of the far-right).

 

If you were to run a left -right test on NYC, you would probably get very similar results as Belgium

[Cult Icon]

politically incorrect:  I strongly suspect that women in western countries are, on average, more powerful than men if financial, corporate, and political power is less valued in one's calculus.  There are other types of power, advantages, and freedoms in life.

[SympathysSilhouette]

7 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

politically incorrect:  I strongly suspect that women in western countries are, on average, more powerful than men if financial, corporate, and political power is less valued in one's calculus.  There are other types of power, advantages, and freedoms in life.

 

That is leaving an awful lot of real power out of the equation.

[Cult Icon]

6 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

That is leaving an awful lot of real power out of the equation.

 

Social powers, legal powers, and the ability to condition/control men to work for them, control over the course of one's life, one's intimacy, and freedom from working/learning a trade, living an easy, carefree life, treated with less abuse, put on a pedestal in an entirely unearned manner by much of the opposite gender, etc. are also "real" powers.  The majority of GDP and male human energy- consumer goods and services are aimed towards female needs or spent by men seeking to attract and/or keep them.

 

[elfstone]

I read somewhere that Putin is actually around 5' 4 tall

[gotportugal]

‘Bill Nye’ Episode on Netflix Omits Segment Saying Chromosomes Determine Gender

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A segment saying that chromosomes determine one's gender on an episode of the educational children's show "Bill Nye the Science guy," is cut out on the Netflix version.

Netflix did not edit Bill Nye The Science Guy. The series was delivered that way by Buena Vista TV, according to a Netflix spokesperson.

In the original episode, titled "Probability," a young woman told viewers, "I'm a girl. Could have just as easily been a boy, though, because the probability of becoming a girl is always 1 in 2."

"See, inside each of our cells are these things called chromosomes, and they control whether we become a boy or a girl, " the young woman continued. "See, there are only two possibilities: XX, a girl, or XY, a boy."

But in the version of the episode uploaded to Netflix, the segment has been cut entirely. While noncontroversial at the time, the 1996 segment appears to contradict Netflix's new series "Bill Nye Saves the World."

The new show endorses a socially liberal understanding of gender, under which gender is defined by self-identification rather than genetics and there are more than just the two traditional genders.

This is now ridiculous

sex =/= gender 

[Sarah.Adams]

On 5/2/2017 at 2:53 AM, Cult Icon said:

politically incorrect:  I strongly suspect that women in western countries are, on average, more powerful than men if financial, corporate, and political power is less valued in one's calculus.  There are other types of power, advantages, and freedoms in life.

 

you mean they have the power to pussywhip a guy?  

 

 

 

 

 

[Cult Icon]

more like being a moocher and not getting punished for a litany of bad behavior- cradle to the grave

 

on average, it is better to be a woman than a man

[17 Moments of Spring]

On 2017. 05. 02. at 2:51 PM, Cult Icon said:

 

Social powers, legal powers, and the ability to condition/control men to work for them, control over the course of one's life, one's intimacy, and freedom from working/learning a trade, living an easy, carefree life, treated with less abuse, put on a pedestal in an entirely unearned manner by much of the opposite gender, etc. are also "real" powers.  The majority of GDP and male human energy- consumer goods and services are aimed towards female needs or spent by men seeking to attract and/or keep them.

 

 

You sound very much like Esther Vilar.  According to her everything that is considered 'masculine' is a thing that supports women. I tend to agree.

 

*****

 

 

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 I have observed these things since a very early age.  Basically it's common sense, (that's also proven in evolutionary psychology) among men that we generally do not say in front of women.

[SympathysSilhouette]

There are many things that are diametrically opposed to this notion, first and foremost male violence.

Check out the stats for domestic violence, honor killings, ...

In general, it's not men who tend to fear for their lives when they get out of a bad relationship.

[frenchkiki]

^^ This

[Cult Icon]

5 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

There are many things that are diametrically opposed to this notion, first and foremost male violence.

Check out the stats for domestic violence, honor killings, ...

In general, it's not men who tend to fear for their lives when they get out of a bad relationship.

 

Talking about non-dysfunctional households in the US and in my personal experience, which is the majority of households.

[SympathysSilhouette]

20 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

 

Talking about non-dysfunctional households in the US and in my personal experience, which is the majority of households.

 

If we are talking about the most extreme case of partner violence, meaning one partner murdering his current or former partner, then just in the US, over 11000 women were killed in between 2001 and 2012. Of course there are many more serious domestic violence cases that never reach that extreme.

 

If we are talking just women who have experienced physical violence at the hands of their partner, the number is nearly 40 million in the US. That is hardly a negligible number.

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4 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said:

 

If we are talking about the most extreme case of partner violence, meaning one partner murdering his current or former partner, then just in the US, over 11000 women were killed in between 2001 and 2012. Of course there are many more serious domestic violence cases that never reach that extreme.

 

If we are talking just women who have experienced physical violence at the hands of their partner, the number is nearly 40 million in the US. That is hardly a negligible number.

 

You are emphasizing the extreme negatives while ignoring the positives that women enjoy from day to day- pretty standard.   Women are major political constituents for identity politics and it is their interest to advance victimization.  Research results in the US are often slanted towards their backers or whatever is more beneficial for the group.   Chop off the tail end of the distribution and things are more positive.

 

Naturally political incorrect views are accumulated through personal experience and not theoretical presentations.  

[Sarah.Adams]

20 hours ago, Cult Icon said:

 I have observed these things since a very early age.  Basically it's common sense, (that's also proven in evolutionary psychology) among men that we generally do not say in front of women.

 

I can see that besides being an expert on nutritional science you are also an expert on evolutionary psychology 

 

I wasn't aware evolutionary psychology has proved your point of view .... it would be nice of you to provide some citation (assuming that you know what citation means in scientific literature)

 

Pretty curious to see if this crap managed to infiltrate science (as many crap did in the past) .... or if it is just you being self-righteous once again .... 
 

[Cult Icon]

I guess I should visit my personal library

 

Apparently you know more about the calories I ingest that I do (the calorie counter).