Michael* Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Gotham is an American crime television series developed by Bruno Heller, based on characters appearing in and published by DC Comics in their Batman franchise, primarily those of Detective James Gordon and Bruce Wayne. The series stars Ben McKenzie as the young Gordon. Heller is the executive producer along with Danny Cannon, who also directed the pilot. Gotham received a series order from Fox on May 5, 2014, and premiered on September 22, 2014. As originally conceived, the series would have served as a straightforward story of Gordon's early days on the Gotham City police force. The idea evolved not only to include the Bruce Wayne character, but will also tell the origin stories of several Batman villains, including Penguin, Riddler, Catwoman, Joker, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Hugo Strange, Harvey Dent, Mr. Freeze and Victor Zsasz. The first season order consisted of 16 episodes, which was later extended to a total of 22.Synopsis A new recruit in Captain Sarah Essen's Gotham City Police Department, Detective James Gordon is paired with Harvey Bullock to solve one of Gotham's highest-profile cases: the murder of Thomas and Martha Wayne. During his investigation, Gordon meets the Waynes' son Bruce, now in the care of his butler Alfred Pennyworth, which further compels Gordon to catch the mysterious killer. Along the way, Gordon must confront mobstress Fish Mooney, mafia led by Carmine Falcone, as well as many of Gotham's future villains such as Selina Kyle, Edward Nygma, and Oswald Cobblepot. Eventually, Gordon is forced to form an unlikely friendship with Wayne, one that will help shape the boy's future in his destiny of becoming a crusader. Quote
Michael* Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Just finished the pilot. A few heavy-handed moments and some obvious cliches (I couldn't help rolling my eyes at Bruce's skyward scream), but the show looks to have potential. I'll be tuning in again next week. Anyone else watching? Quote
KelAnne_ Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I watched the first three episodes, can't say I'll be too keen to watch anymore. I think it's a combination of I don't like the actor playing James and because I like Batman, not child Bruce Wayne. I'm not also a fan of how hyped up the show was, I was expecting more.. well more close to the comics like it claimed to be. I'm still on the fence with this one because The Penguin intrigues me, but I've also heard people have started giving up on the show after episode four because it's beginning to sink downhill quickly. Quote
PinkCouture Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 ... people have started giving up on the show after episode four because it's beginning to sink downhill quickly. That's exactly how I feel I will probably watch the rest of the season just b/c I have watched so many episodes already. Quote
KelAnne_ Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I think it was silly on their behalf to change the number of episodes from 16 to 22, now the storyline will be dragged along more. A safer option would have been keeping it at 16 to get it over and done with; like Game of Thrones, I'm sure most people wished there was 16 or 22 episodes, but it has 10 (?), so it doesn't drag anything along for too long. Quote
Michael* Posted October 25, 2014 Author Posted October 25, 2014 I thought Selina was a lot more engaging this week, there's a touch of Jennifer Lawrence about the actress playing her. Had trouble wrapping my head around the idea that she would have clawed someone's eyes out at this stage, though. Feels a bit early in proceedings to have that level of violence in the character. The show's biggest drag is without doubt the relationship between Gordon and Barbara. So far, she's the quintessential blank canvas comic book girlfriend. Hopefully that changes later on. Quote
KelAnne_ Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 In the three episodes I watched Barbara annoyed the hell out of me! I swear all she does is stay in her apartment all day? Quote
PinkCouture Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 ^ Well she left the apartment this week I think that's the second time we have seen her outside the apartment Quote
KelAnne_ Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I've seen her leave twice, both times to go to the police station and those two scenes together only lasted around 2 minutes. Gosh woman. All she does is stay at home, bug Jim about his work secrets, then when she leaves the home she goes to his work. I can see why people don't like her character because she really hasn't been written well at this stage. Quote
Michael* Posted October 30, 2014 Author Posted October 30, 2014 To be fair, Jim and Barbara do appear to be living in an art gallery. I'd probably be loathe to leave too. As much enjoyment as people seem to be getting from the Cobblepot and Nygma story arcs (which I personally think are very hit and miss), my favourite character up to now is Harvey, with Fish Mooney a close second. I'm far from being the biggest Jada Pinkett-Smith fan you'll ever meet, but she plays it so over the top that she's hard to dislike. I could easily see Mooney being accepted into the comic book mythos in the near future, a la Harley Quinn. Quote
Limerlight Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I haven't seen the latest one this monday but... I'm mixed. I'm a huge DC fan and to keep giving Batman/Bruce Wayne new origins and messing with story lines Plus to see Harvey not drinking all the time <_< Quote
Michael* Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 It's been a real mixed bag so far. There are a lot of things in it that objectively aren't that great, and it doesn't seem to have a clue whether it wants to be a serious cop procedural, a dark adventure or a light-hearted spoof. In a weird way that's quite fun because you never know what it's going to hit you in the face with next, but I think the best case scenario is that the good stuff is good enough to make the weaker bits forgivable. I suppose one of the biggest problems, from more of a long-term perspective, is that the story will have to arrive at a point where Gordon has no chance of winning his war against the criminals of the city. If he's able to arrest most of them over the course of a season or six, then Wayne's eventual decision to become Batman can't really be justified. Quote
KelAnne_ Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Has anyone else noticed they way Fish always places a hand on her hip and bends down when she's talking? Quote
Michael* Posted December 2, 2014 Author Posted December 2, 2014 Has anyone else noticed they way Fish always places a hand on her hip and bends down when she's talking? Yeah, Jada seems to be under the impression that she's acting in Batman '66 instead. Long may it continue. Quote
Limerlight Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Bumping this. After a mediocre (to me) season one I am really enjoying season two Quote
Michael* Posted November 4, 2015 Author Posted November 4, 2015 I've yet to be entirely convinced by the show, if I'm honest. The first run had just enough of a bigger picture element to keep me coming back, but it didn't take long for the 'cases of the week' to start feeling like a bit of a yawn. If they don't up the ante for the second season, I'll probably get bored and end up switching it off. Quote
Limerlight Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I think my enjoyment of it is being a huge DC fan I want to see where the story goes. I was yelling and cursing and swearing during the 1st season, but I've accepted this alternate universe they have Gotham in Quote
Ophelia_Immortal Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I love DC but I got bored of it really fast. I might check it out if it picks up soon but I dropped it and Arrow around the same time. Quote
Limerlight Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 You never told me you loved DC :shock: Red Quote
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