Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, dilhixitah said: Jesus, are we still on victorian era or something??? It's her instagram, she can post whatever she wants. And it's not cheap AT ALL! For me, she's just showing she's happy with her own body, she's cofident and she definitely doesn't want to try to be like those Kardashians, she's must better than them, she's ADRIANA LIMA. She's not trying to be provocative nor anything of the sort, she's confident on being who she is, and that's great!!! I'm glad most of the comments on IG are saying good things about her yes. Sexiest. They can't even use uni sex adjectives to critisize her. " cheap" " kardashian like" . no one ever uses words like that for men even. Couldn't have at least called her " tasteless" or " problematic " But no, gotta go with the slut shaming adjectives and scenarios Quote
Mira113 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Schemer said: Difference is I wasn't (and still am not) insulting other forum users. Even calling a shot cheap doesn't mean that she as a person in general is. Something people on this topic can't seem to understand. God forbid someone posts anything critical without you lot coming in with personal insults. It is a PR. EVERYTHING ON INSTAGRAM IS PR! And if you don't understand that, you are a naive person. First place this selfie is gonna end up in on DailyMail and later on other tabloids. Oh God. I totally agree with you. I had almost the same silly >argument< yesterday at Stella Maxwell's topic. Yes, guys, believe or not , this photo is cheap. Yes, Kim K and other celebrity models doing this, but they are not Adriana. Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, Iriana said: It's her IG, she can do whatever she wants with it. This is a public forum within which we share our thoughts (positive or negative) about a model's work/posts, I can share my view whatever it is. I have been a fan of Adriana's for years and years- but just because she is my favourite model that doesn't mean I have a duty to agree with everything she does without a second thought. Like it or not, a number of people have responded in the same way as I have. Adriana felt a need to post a suggestive post shower selfie on IG. I disagree with her for doing so. A large part of Adriana's appeal is her modesty outside of her work- she has chosen to sell herself on this image by discussing it in the past. It is a major reason why the general public appreciate her and hold her in such high esteem. There was a reason why she never did this before. Her caption was hesitant. She is too elite and established for this kind of desperate post. It's something I would expect from Irina. That's my opinion on this issue. Adriana told you why she posted that? Quote
dilhixitah Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 The sexism on this forum is way too high If it was a man who had post something showing his abs or some shit, everyone would go crazy- But because it is ADRIANA LIMA, they're calling her cheap. Okay, it makes sense, lol. Quote
duhampi Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Schemer said: EVERYTHING ON INSTAGRAM IS PR! BELIEVING THIS IS IDIOCY! 6 minutes ago, Schemer said: God forbid someone posts anything critical without you lot coming in with personal insults. God also damn someone posts shit every fucking single time without exception. Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Schemer said: Difference is I wasn't (and still am not) insulting other forum users. Even calling a shot cheap doesn't mean that she as a person in general is. Something people on this topic can't seem to understand. God forbid someone posts anything critical without you lot coming in with personal insults. It is a PR. EVERYTHING ON INSTAGRAM IS PR! And if you don't understand that, you are a naive person. First place this selfie is gonna end up in on DailyMail and later on other tabloids. An insult is an insult. And you have done it here. So don't get offended when it gets thrown back in your face, it doesn't matter if its not from the person you directly insulted , karma doesn't need to work that way . The lesson has always been " don't dish out what you can't take back" not " don't dish out what you can't take back directly from that person" You have not right to tell someone to watch their mouth, when you can't neither Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, dilhixitah said: The sexism on this forum is way too high If it was a man who had post something showing his abs or some shit, everyone would go crazy- But because it is ADRIANA LIMA, they're calling her cheap. Okay, it makes sense, lol. And they really think they are right. Please . Like I said, on another forum where people are still fans but not like us, they found it fine. And they hate the kardashians. The way they user to describe this instead of how they could says it all. Quote
Iriana Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, TKC said: yes. Sexiest. They can't even use uni sex adjectives to critisize her. " cheap" " kardashian like" . no one ever uses words like that for men even. Couldn't have at least called her " tasteless" or " problematic " But no, gotta go with the slut shaming adjectives and scenarios I didn't call Adriana herself "cheap", I said that I think that this suggestive post shower selfie has cheapened her due to its cheapening effect on her image. I also called the post "degrading" and "desperate". I would say the exact same thing if this were an established, well recognised, and well respected male model of Adriana's status and level- who had never posted such a thing- but for some reason chose to do so at the late stages of their career. I would have reacted in the same way if I were actually following the career of such a man. You're looking at this all through a Tumblr lens. Sure, she has every right to post this image, sure. It's her body. She looks amazing as we all know she does. However, the reality is that this was not a good move by Adriana. A great part of her allure has always been her modesty, at least for the general public, who do not follow her high fashion work as closely or as long as we all have. Quote
duhampi Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mira113 said: Oh God. I totally agree with you. I had almost the same silly >argument< yesterday at Stella Maxwell's topic. Yes, guys, believe or not , this photo is cheap. Yes, Kim K and other celebrity models doing this, but they are not Adriana. You never get enough of getting roasted don't you? It's not the point, it seems it is an ART when any other model does this but when it comes to Adri is shame. This is hypocrisy. Quote
Schemer Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, TKC said: An insult is an insult. And you have done it here. So don't get offended when it gets thrown back in your face, it doesn't matter if its not from the person you directly insulted , karma doesn't need to work that way . The lesson has always been " don't dish out what you can't take back" not " don't dish out what you can't take back directly from that person" You have not right to tell someone to watch their mouth, when you can't neither Since you;re too daft to read properly here is a history of posts: MY POST: Quote Well she does now. Seems a bit too Kardashian-ish for my taste. At this stage of her career she doesn't need PR stunts like these. Where is exactly insult here? AFTER THAT: Quote I'm allergic to barking mad dogs not to opinions So where were you to tell duhampi that there should be no insults? When someone call me "barking mad dog" you are conveniently silent? After that the same person calls me idiot (repeatedly) and you are still silent. Quote
EmmaParis Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 It's best to leave it, we will not agree and we are already two or three pages talking about a selfie unimportant, she just walked for Versace, it's better that we focus on that. Quote
Schemer Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 AND FOR MILLIONTH TIME, INSTAGRAM IS THERE FOR PR! EVERY MODEL ON THIS PLANET IS USING IT FOR PR AND THAT INCLUDES ADRIANA LIMA! And it doesn't matter which one of you calls me what, the fact is the fact. Instagram is promotional tool for models. Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Iriana said: I didn't call Adriana herself "cheap", I said that I think that this suggestive post shower selfie has cheapened her due to its cheapening effect on her image. I also called the post "degrading" and "desperate". I would say the exact same thing if this were an established, well recognised, and well respected male model of Adriana's status and level- who had never posted such a thing- but for some reason chose to do so at the late stages of their career. I would have reacted in the same way if I were actually following the career of such a man. You're looking at this all through a Tumblr lens. Sure, she has every right to post this image, sure. It's her body. She looks amazing as we all know she does. However, the reality is that this was not a good move by Adriana. A great part of her allure has always been her modesty, at least for the general public, who do not follow her high fashion work as closely or as long as we all have. Those are still sexiest terms. The real reality is your trying to tell a woman what she can and not only to herself but her own body. That's not right. And I am not looking at it from a tumblr lense but my own. And I have over 16 hours worth of social and anthropological courses I have taken. My understanding and POV is a litle bit more deeper. Thank you very much. Quote
dilhixitah Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 1 minute ago, EmmaParis said: It's best to leave it, we will not agree and we are already two or three pages talking about a selfie unimportant, she just walked for Versace, it's better that we focus on that. Totally agree And she killed it!!! Quote
Schemer Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Calling someone cheap is not sexist. Men and women can be cheap. Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Schemer said: Calling someone cheap is not sexist. Men and women can be cheap. Men are never called cheap and you know that. Men are also not called kardashian like Quote
Souled-Out Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, Schemer said: Since you;re too daft to read properly here is a history of posts: MY POST: Where is exactly insult here? AFTER THAT: So where were you to tell duhampi that there should be no insults? When someone call me "barking mad dog" you are conveniently silent? After that the same person calls me idiot (repeatedly) and you are still silent. Lol I'm draft. This entire time my point wasn't don't insult people here. Its don't get mad when somebody insults you Duhampi got mad at a what you said first. Which was an insult in her opinion . Which comment came first? Yours. And then it continued with the cheap mess. Quote
EmmaParis Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, dilhixitah said: Totally agree And she killed it!!! Yeah!! I love to see her on the catwalk (another than VS catwalk). She has a strong presence. Also i want to see her dress, hair and makeup for amfAR event tomorrow. Quote
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