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amfAR New York Gala To Kick Off Fall 2012 Fashion Week Presented By Hublot in New York February 8 2012

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Heidi Klum - amfAR New York Gala at Cipriani Wall Street, New York February 8, 2012

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Heidi's highlights from Germany's Next Top Model 2011:

Vogue Germany, March 2012

interview have 5 pages, but only two photos. It's sad

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Vogue Germany, March 2012

interview have 5 pages, but only two photos. It's sad

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Do you have the interview also? I want to read it!

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I translated this article from Gala (17 February 2012):

http://www.gala.de/beauty_fashion/173969/H...l-zu-sagen.html

Heidi Klum: She has a lot to say

Whether in conversations with co-host Michael Kors or at a shooting in Los Angeles it is clear: Heidi Klum never loses sight of her goals.

Cheerful, a little bit peculiar, a little bit naive, one who displays humor - these are attributes one connects to Heidi Klum at the sound of her first name. That's exactly what makes her stronger, declares designer Michael Kors in an interview in the March issue of Vogue. While her co-host of the American model-casting show "Project Runway" chats openly about his "Restylane" spots and eye injections and other more crude anecdotes, Heidi at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles cunningly reaches ever further to the red thread of conversation to better position herself.

[she talks] about how she began her modeling career with too many curves, that she did not want to become one of the girls with the "filler look" in the shows, and why she loves to throw elaborate parties with her penchant for gruesome costumes: "I can't really do the sexy nurse look, because I have spent half my life wearing a G-string, covering my boobs with my hands." And, she always gets heart palpitations for big Hollywood parties. "Considering where I come from, these parties simply seemed like they would be too far away." She started as a fitting-model at 19 years old, and has since learned a lot from modeling. This knowledge is what she puts into her many collections from the Klum Universe, which she designs with her own hands down to the very last button. Yet everything seems so effortless...

Here comes that perfect smile to match what she had practiced at the beginning of her career, after an arguement with a photographer. It's hard to believe, but at a bridal-shooting in Las Vegas, the photographer told her that her smile was too artificial - which was not a reason for her to give up. Heidi Klum practiced the perfect smile, which she revealed in an interview during a photoshoot with the American photographer Todd Cole in ZEIT Magazine.

Once again, the effort has paid off for the 38-year-old. The "Short Round", as she was actually referred to back then, has already amassed around 400 magazine covers. 96% of all Germans know who she is, and Time Magazine counted her amongst the "100 most influential people in the world." According to Vogue, her legs are insured for 1.6 million Euros, and according to Forbes she made just under $20 million in annual revenue last year.

Then, she was also discovered as a TV-host: "As a newcomer, I approached Stephanie Seymour and Tyra Banks and I would fool around with them. I was not perfect, but I was loose, and they were as natural and open with me as with a journalist." These aspects gave her a little advantage at the big casting-shows, where every word had to be said. Reading from the teleprompter was something that Heidi did not like. But, of course, the German superwoman has that part of her career well in hand. And now we wait for her next big coup.

I found the photoshoot that she did for ZEIT magazine that was mentioned in the article I just translated (March 2012):

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Here's the translation of the ZEIT article, in case anyone is interested:

http://www.zeit.de/2012/08/Mode-Heidi-Klum

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At 38, she stands at the pinnacle of success. And faces new decisions.

Once, at the beginning of her modeling career, Heidi Klum was booked to do a wedding fashion shoot in Las Vegas. "I had to marry a young man about a dozen times," she says, "and every time I had to be happy about it. But I didn't like the photographer." Why not? "He was upset about my smile - that it was too artificial. He was really annoyed with it. Of course, that didn't make it better."

When the photoshoot was finished, Heidi Klum went back home and practiced in front of the mirror by herself until she had the perfect smile. "There are many people that clench their teeth when they smile, and that does not look good. It's also not like a horse in the saying: Show your teeth." No, she adds, "the perfect smile spreads across the face, then it looks authentic." This smile, that she developed in front of the mirror back then, is useful because she can whip it out in public at any time if she needs to, even on busy days like this - in January, after the public got word of her separation from her husband, singer Seal.

Downtown Los Angeles, in December, nothing is known about the separation. Heidi Klum is sitting in a rented van that is parked in front of the John Ferraro Building. Today she is doing a photoshoot with American photographer Todd Cole. He is known for his unique way of staging fashion on the street with natural light, as if he were a photojournalist.

Promptly at 8:00 in the morning, Heidi Klum appeared on set. "Hello, I am Heidi," she greets each person one at a time. The voice is softer than on television, a gentle handshake, a smile. It is a performance without any fanfare. Here comes, not a star who wants to be cheered, but a model who wants to work. She is without makeup, and she wears her hair down. The naturalness represents her well. And she is dressed entirely in gray: sweater, pants, shoes - all gray. Even her coat is gray.

Then the work can begin. Hair, makeup, manicure, trying on different skirts, blouses, and suits. The first pictures are taken on the street before she goes back into the van.

Twenty years ago, she was discovered in a modeling contest run by Thomas Gottschalk and the magazine, Petra. Heidi Klum describes those days as follows: "Laying on the pillow of my nursery bed, relaxing, stuffed animals and dolls left and right, in the next room, my boyfriend (Marcel, a bartender) is waiting. Perfectly happy? Yes." Heidi Klum smiles the perfect smile that she spoke about earlier. "That was so long ago. Sometimes, when I think back to this time, I ask myself, 'Was that even me?'"

Today, she has two successful TV shows, Project Runway in America and Germany's Next Topmodel in Germany, combined with her advertising contracts. 96% of Germans know who she is, and Time Magazine counted her among the "100 most influential people in the world." According to Vogue, her legs are insured for 1.6 million Euros. According to Forbes, she made just under 20 million dollars last year. "However, in the beginning, I always thought there would be no room for me in this business," she says. "I couldn't get a job. I was simply too normal and too feminine. Back then there was 'heroin-chic', the extremely thin girls. My face and my body are completely different."

After winning the modeling competition in 1992, she went to Paris and Milan and was rejected everywhere. "It was always: 'You have to change', 'Cut your hair', 'Reduce your weight', 'You need a more cool look.'" On the American TV network, CBS, she revealed a specific tip about pills. "They said, 'Why don't you put this in your drink, so you won't be so hungry.'" She did not yield to this pressure. "I did not want to sacrifice my health. I thought either people will like me, or I will find another job."

In 1998 came the breakthrough

In Paris and Milan, she was reproached for looking so American. So she went to America. First to Miami, then to New York. About the photos she had taken in Miami, it was said only, "You are too 'Miami'." She threw out all of the pictures and made new ones again and again. The more photoshoots she did, the more confident she became. "After a while, you realize that every photographer sees something different in you. You come to understand, 'I am a white piece of paper that can be painted in different ways.'"

And yet, it remained a struggle for these years. Finally, she found out she would be on her first magazine cover for Mirabella. She liked the pictures and went proudly to the magazine kiosk to buy a copy. She saw the cover and thought, "Too bad. They used a different girl." Then she opened the magazine and looked more closely and could not believe what happened. "They had edited together the faces of four or five girls. They took the eyes of one, the nose of another and the ears of a third."

She remembers a casting with Anna Wintour, the fearsome editor in cheif of Vogue, known from her character in The Devil Wears Prada. "I was very excited. 'Oh, God, what do I wear?' Barely no makeup! And I came into her office and she doesn't look at me once, not a single glance. She only looked at my photobook." But, Wintour booked the German model, and so she slowly climbed up. Heidi Klum did a lot of advertising work, and had appearances on TV, alongside Michael J. Fox.

The breakthrough in 1998: the first German on the cover of the annual Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. 55 million copies sold. David Letterman invited her on his show. From the model that nobody wanted to look at, became a star that also worked as a model. And yet - or perhaps because of this - some fashion circles remain closed to her. She did not make it in haute couture, not in high fashion, as Americans like to say.

"I always knew that the high fashion people would never fall in love with me," she says. "They want super thin girls who are 1.8 meters tall, with no breasts and no hips. On the runway, I can understand that, as I am a little round to fit in there." Short and round? She smiles the Heidi Klum Smile. "Many people who are not in the fashion industry are probably thinking, 'They must be crazy.' But that's how it is."

Heidi Klum is 1.76 meters tall and weighs 57 kg. It is one of the ironies of her career that, precisely her, who was considered to short and too round, would years later, when her Topmodel show begins in Germany, be accused by scientists and politicians of making young people susceptible to anorexia. What would she do if her own daughter wanted to become a model? "She is seven now, so we still have a couple of years. She has been with me a few times on set, but she was mostly bored. She would yawn a lot and say, 'Can we go soon?'"

Heidi Klum has survived the brutality of her industry and overcome many obstacles. Perhaps that's where the hardness toward the candidates on her casting show comes from. She wants them to be prepared for what lies ahead - and repeat the pattern that she herself was shaped by.

"You will never be on the cover of Vogue," they routinely slammed in Heidi Klum's face. A mistake. Her first cover, apart from the Mirabella-assembly was for French Vogue. Her face today increases the circulation of magazines, along with the German edition of Vogue. In total, she estimates that she has appeared on over 400 covers.

She has changed the rules of her own industry

In the interview, Heidi Klum is relaxed, sometimes jumping between "Sie" and "du" [formal and informal forms of "you"], often using American words when she can't think of the equivalent word in German. She has now lived in America for half of her life. The "All American Girl", as she is often called, has not only absorbed the American business rules. She has changed the rules of her own industry.

"That was at the time that I made it to Victoria's Secret." (The company sells underwear in the amount of billions in sales and is renowned for its annual spectacle where all the famous models show off the latest bras.) "I noticed that you don't have to put up with everything anymore. At that time it was common that, for a period of a few months, all the pictures that were taken of a model were all released for publication. Models did not earn anything because of it, nor did we have a say in where the pictures were published." Klum says her former agency couldn't do anything about it, just like the rest of the industry. "But I was stubborn, and eventually it was understood. Today, models earn more, verbal agreements are common, and we have more rights."

She says that she regrets that stylists and makeup artists do not have more rights in the productions, "which simply must be changed."

There is another moment that was crucial to her career, and that had to do with Victoria's Secret. After her first fashion show, she grabbed a microphone and a camera man, and went backstage to interview her collegues. "I was just a newcomer, and I just went up to Stephanie Seymour and Tyra Banks and fooled around with them. I was not perfect, but I was loose, and they were as natural and open with me as with a journalist." The resulting spontaneous shots came out good, following orders as a backstage interviewer. She stood in front of the camera for MTV. That was the beginning of her career as a TV host.

In the year 2002, the powerful film and TV producer Harvey Weinstein had an offer to her. He had just completed a successful casting show for actors on TV and wanted to apply this principle to fashion designers. Together they developed Project Runway, and in December 2004, Heidi Klum was on the air. The show became a big success, just as it is today. "That is my mission," Heidi Klum says, "I shaped it from the very beginning." She takes a short pause. "Topmodel is not my mission. That is Tyra's show." Actually, Germany's Next Topmodel is an adaptation of America's Next Top Model, which is hosted by Tyra Banks. Heidi Klum secured the rights for the German version along with her say [in how the show is run], so she is constantly under criticism when it comes to how she deals with the candidates or the contracts that they must sign.

She comes, on her own accord, to speak about the fact that two German students wrote down last year's finale of Germany's Next Topmodel word for word, and published the results on the Internet to expose the dramatic and funny language. "Unfortunately, I have to agree with them," she says. The finale, in contrast to the other shows, is broadcast live. Since the station does not want to take any risks, they must have all the text written down beforehand. "My ProSieben-people are great, but I would prefer to be more spontaneous on stage. There are, naturally, requirements that we have to hold ourselves to, so that such a big production can function." She says nothing more on the subject, but the new season begins in the coming weeks.

Where will Heidi go from here on TV? Will she continue to host modeling shows? According to the "Bild" newspaper, she has been given as a possible successor to Thomas Gottschalk on Wetten, dass..? Would she be interested?

She smiles her perfect smile, which gives her more time for an answer. "They don't know what they should do, right? It feels as though no one wants to do the job because they do not want to be compared with Thomas."

That does not sound like a rejection. If ZDF [the network] asked her, what would she answer?

"I would think about it, if they asked me."

At 38, she is better in business than ever before

Heidi Klum was born on 1 June 1973 and grew up in Bergisch Gladbach. Her father, who would later become her manager, worked for the perfume company "4711". The daughter earned extra spending-money by working on the weekends in the local company, filling sample bottles. "I got 50 Marks for a couple hours of work," she says proudly. "When I tell this story now, I always think, 'Hopefully, people will believe me.' But that's where I come from, that is my background."

She still remains in contact with her friends from that time, such as Karin, who has worked as a film editor. She is now at home, caring for her child while her husband works in his parent's restaurant. Would this life be something for her?

"I think about that sometimes, but I am where I belong." She has lived a long time in Los Angeles, even voting in America, selecting Obama the last time, although this time she doesn't know yet.

There is a knock on the door to the van. She must go back out and be photographed while it is still light enough. It was important to her that the pictures be taken in Los Angeles. "I want to be with my children." Also: "I don't like to fly."

She is 38 years old now, and never would have thought that she would still be in this business at this age. And better than ever. She has just signed a big deal that will become public this fall, although she can say no more about it. The door opens, the photographer calls, and the interview ends. But not the story.

A few weeks ago, at the end of January, Heidi Klum and Seal issued a joint statement: They have separated. They continue to love each other, but they have drifted apart. Over the next few days, Seal gave several television interviews, while Heidi Klum made no sound except for a few sentences on her Facebook page. She thanked "the best fans in the world" for the "support and kind words, which mean a lot to me."

Heidi Klum's first marriage to New York hairdresser Ric Pipino ended in divorce in 2003. Later she was with the Formula-1 manager Poop Face, and in 2005, she married Seal. Both have staged their marriage in public repeatedly and commercially exploited it, as when Seal's music would be played on Heidi Klum's shows.

In December, in an interview about her TV career, she revealed that in 2010 there were plans to make a show together with Seal, but nothing became of it. They had produced a pilot episode, but then decided to let it go so that they would not continue to dissolve the boundaries between their private and professional lives. Now they have been accused of choosing the date of their separation to that Seal could help promote his new album. At the same time, it arouses interest in the new season of her show.

Heidi Klum is currently shooting the new season of the Topmodel show. Recent questions that she answered by mail before the deadline are given. What does she wish for her own future? "I wish for good health for my family and myself above all else." How do you protect your children from the vortex? "My children are surprisingly used to the paparazzi photographing them wherever they go. They no longer ask why."

Other questions we asked were not answered. It looks as though Heidi will have to put her perfect smile to good use over the next few weeks.

Gala 23.02.2012

Heidi with one of her new models out of GNTM 2012

Luisa Hartema

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Gala 23.02.2012

GNTM 2012 " Golden Girls"

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I know nobody reads these, but I think it's an interesting conversation. My translation of the interview for German Vogue, March 2012:

http://www.vogue.de/people-parties/people-...nd-michael-kors

Vogue Interview: Heidi Klum and Michael Kors

Heidi Klum and Michael Kors about correct curves, liquid fuel and superfluous doubt

It's only 8:00, but in Los Angeles the awards season has begun, and as you walk into the Beverly Hills Hotel on the morning before the Golden Globes Gala, some nominees are already on their way. The door to the Garden Suite opens, and Michael Kors walks in with his arms outstretched. His inexhaustible insider stories and his sharp tongue, coupled with his bear-like friendliness, make him an ideal party guest. "Heidi, you look great! Is that your own hair?" He strokes her thick blond tresses and recommends to her one of the wigs from his collection that's just like Raquel Welch. Heidi Klum smiles, shakes her head, obviously not convinced by his proposal. He insists with a grin, "Why? Even Jessica Simpson sold her plastic hair extensions very successfully!"

That Heidi Klum separated from her husband of nearly seven years, Seal, is, at the time of this meeting, not a subject. This Vogue interview took place a few days before the official announcement was made.

Heidi Klum: Why don't you take your sunglasses off?

Michael Kors: Because I have "Restylane" spots, darling. I'm old. That's why I let myself be sprayed in the face, and now I have bruises. But, we should have a serious talk. As I said, you look ravishing, I would like to take pictures while sitting in the shade, you are too beautiful. Do you remember when we met for the first time?

Heidi: I remember it exactly! It was at a casting in Paris when you were a designer for Celine. I wanted to be one of the models in your fashion show.

Michael: Was I nice?

Heidi: You were really, very nice because, back then, most people would have rejected me right on the spot because I wasn't thin enough.

Michael: But you had boobs!

Heidi: Unfortunately, boobs and hips, in the time of Heroin-Chic, were not in demand.

Michael: A dark era...

Heidi: In all the test photos, they left out the makeup and the hair was all disheveled. It was all about slouching. The hunched posture doesn't work for me. I'd walk through the door confident and cheerful. Well, maybe I was a bit more shy than I am today.

Michael: Come on, you were never shy!

Heidi: I still remember that time - you put me in a bathing suit.

Michael: Of course, I love curves! Probably what happened was Lance and the others in the room said, "Her tits are too big!" After you left the room, an argument broke out, but I thought you were hot!

Heidi: So, why didn't you book me?

Michael: Blame the others! Don't blame me - I would always dress the same type, I mean: who else today provides the range from Barbara Walters to Michelle Obama?

Heidi: Yeah, yeah. I know that some of the stylists have great influence over you designers. Sometimes they prefer certain girls and give them more important outfits than the others.

Michael: The Russian and Brazilian models don't put up with anything. They have a strong rivalry. When they come for a fitting for a fashion show, they want to know exactly what order they will go out there, and whether they will wear a significant look.

Heidi: I did the same thing! I wanted to feel that I would be on the runway with a "wow-factor". It's really hard when you are used as a "filler". Every runway show is a story that starts with a bang, then alternates between highlights and quiet moments. The girls never want to be one of the "filler" looks. You need the right outfit to have a big fashion moment.

Michael: I beg to differ. I once put Gisele Bundchen in a black turtleneck sweater, black pants, and flat shoes. She came up to me and asked me, in her great South American accent, "You are putting Gisele in that?" To cover her up was something special.

Heidi: It was great to not always be booked for the obvious.

Michael: What was your best moment in my clothes?

Heidi: The best one I remember was a red dress I wore when I went out for the first time after Leni was born. I still felt like I was as big as a house. And it had all these things draped around, yet somehow at the end it didn't look like a huge muumuu.

Michael: You looked fantastic in it!

Heidi: Say, Michael: You've been married to Lance for six months now. How do you feel?

Michael: It's great! Look at my ring. The diamonds are enclosed on the inside but invisible from the outside.

Heidi: Why is that?

Michael: I'm just very reserved.

Heidi: I would have liked to be one of your bridesmaids. I always wanted to be put in one of those lilac-colored outfits...

Michael: If I had a large wedding party, since you were married, strictly speaking, you would have been the maid of honor or a matron, with a big hump. So it was for the best that I was burned out.

Heidi: I could have tied a pillow to my back!

Michael: I can imagine it now. It's funny - I never thought about getting married, even when the law changed in New York.

Heidi: Probably because you lived as a couple for a long time without a certificate.

Michael: For ten years. You girls dream from an early age about having a huge festival. Even Anna Wintour asked, "Can I throw rice at your wedding?" Lance and I just wanted to put on a pair of shorts and go to the beach, while you women were brimming with enthusiasm and ideas.

Heidi: I just love parties. I try to enjoy life and create memories. The older you get, the faster the years go by. And, suddenly, it's Christmas again and all of a sudden it's back to your birthday. And I have the feeling that life goes by too fast, if you don't lay down...

Michael: ...anniversaries, parties, celebrating all these things that structure the year? You're right! You could also be an event planner, your parties are so good.

Heidi: I think it's great to take people out of their normal environment and routine. And when they get all dressed up, they change. Did you see what I wore for Halloween this year?

Michael: Yes! Incredible, that muscle and bone costume. I went as a zombie version of a mariachi musician, but unfortunately, I came out looking like an old-age latino star. But I love the absolute transformation!

Heidi: You can vary the volume. I always get really excited about it. And I prefer to be a little bit ugly. I can't really do the sexy nurse look, since I've spent half of my life in a G-string, covering my boobs with my hands.

Michael: But, does your heart always beat a little bit faster from excitement over Hollywood parties?

Heidi: Yes, I always love those! Where I come from, these parties always seemed like they were too far away. I never thought that one day, I would be at the Golden Globes, the Oscars or the Grammys sitting next to Elton John, Elizabeth Taylor or Liza Minnelli.

Michael: My first big party was a Ball for the Costume Institute of New York's Metropolitan Museum. Vera Wang was at my side, wearing some of my clothes. I had just turned 20, and had to borrow a tuxedo from one of my friends. On my way there, I ran into the legendary Yves Saint Laurent and Diana Vreeland, I couldn't speak - it was just magical for me. Then, as if it should be even crazier and more impressive, after dinner we were walking through the museum, and it started to snow. All at once, the whole society party became quiet, and everyone was asking, "What's going on?" John Lennon had just been shot. I will never forget that night and it's intensity. Today, the festivals come and go and, unfortunately, I've gotten used to the specialness of them.

Heidi: But, something always goes wrong. For example, you spill something on your dress in the limo, and you have to dry it off in the wind.

Michael: So, you're still nervous when you step out of the car?

Heidi: No, just when I have to read off of a teleprompter.

Michael: You'd prefer to not talk with one!

Heidi: If I start to stutter, it just gets worse. I just think "I want out of here!" and I'd prefer to sink into the ground!

Michael: Do you know how many people say to me, "You are so good in Project Runway! You can remember everything so well!" But we are just babbling in front of each other!

Heidi: And how many hours does it take to record 15 minutes of the show?!

Michael: Right! And everything that's mean is saved, because that's what's exciting.

Heidi: To be honest, sometimes I just can't find anything nice to say.

Michael: I'm right there with you. Because of Project Runway, I have developed an editor's eye, cutting out all the boring. Since then, my fashion shows go a lot faster. Are you doing more to become a designer from our reality show?

Heidi: I've already designed jeans, swimsuits, Birkenstocks, and a few other things, and I have a few more things that are coming up.

Michael: Ah, so it's "Heidi, Inc."?

Heidi: Fashion has always been a passion of mine. Before I won the modeling contest, I wanted to study design in Dusseldorf. Since then, I have learned a lot from modeling over 19 years. Can you imagine? I started out as a fitting-model for an American catalog.

Michael: Where you really honest about what you thought of the looks?

Heidi: Yes, and at the beginning, they just casually dismissed my comments, but later, they would implement some of my changes.

Michael: That reminds me of Stephanie, the "Queen of the Fitting-Models". She had a stunning figure and a big mouth. I learned a lot from her. When she was trying on clothes, she would say, "I couldn't get a taxi to stop for me in this!", "I can't sit in this!", "I can't bend down!" You really had to take notice. I felt lost when she stopped working in her late fifties. A few years later, I went to Paris to design for Celine, and they had all these mannequins standing around with Stephanie's body. The people who ran the studio said, "They are fitting-models custom built with perfect proportions." Stephanie was with me, so I knew everything would go well...

Heidi: Another one of your wonderful stories - Project Runway would be so boring without you! Who would have thought the show would be so successful?

Michael: I knew early on when I went to a Rolling Stones concert and Rashida Jones congratulated me on the show and told me that her mother, Peggy Lipton - a style icon - and even her father, Quincy Jones, watched the show regularly. Quincy Jones!

Heidi: I have to say, as fashion professionals, you and Nina took on a bigger risk than I did at the beginning.

Michael: Yeah, an embarrassing reality show would have destroyed my credibility. Back then, there wasn't any fashion on reality TV.

Heidi: Do you remember the first season, when there was a constant haze of cheesy snack food powder in the air, because we didn't have the budget for proper food?

Michael: But, it got better. We've worked our way up to Nobu sushi.

Heidi: Or the health juice!

Michael: Creepy, the drinks these days! You cannot convince me to try those energy drinks. The only thing you could do would be to put a cheeseburger in a blender for me. Then, look at you and look at me... From nothing comes nothing!

Heidi: The juice keeps me fresh.

Michael: Your energy is incredible! You make everything seem so effortless.

Heidi: From the outside, everything may look super easy. At the moment, I'm spending a lot of time at my desk, designing something that will come out in September. People think that it's only my name on it.

Michael: I also find it funny when people ask me if I design everything down to the little details. Yes! Until the very last button, even the zippers. It's the details that matter. But I think, we may not always see when someone really makes an effort. Even when you were pregnant, everything looked easy.

Heidi: In the evenings, I fall into bed exhausted. Then my battery is plugged into the charger, and it means business.

Michael: I can always tell right away when you are pregnant. I look at your boobs...

Heidi: Well, Hans and Franz can never keep anything to themselves.

Michael: My idea of how a woman dresses when she's pregnant changed because of you. You were first one who did not hide her belly under tent-dresses or stay at home.

Heidi: You still have to struggle with your body even after the pregnancy.

Michael: You did not have to struggle! Ten days later and you were back...

Heidi: But those ten days were a struggle!

Michael: Oh, you poor thing! All joking aside, I think the phenomenon of agelessness in vogue at the moment is the most exciting. You can see a 20-year-old with the elegance of a mature woman or a 55-year-old in a Lycra mini-dress with hair down to her waist.

Heidi: Right. Some people probably think my skirts are a little too short.

Michael: Do you think people should dress more according to their body, or their age?

Heidi: According to attitude. I will turn 40 next year, but I don't think of myself as a middle-aged mom who stays in the kitchen with a twin-set on.

Michael: So, you wear a tight zebra bikini instead? Really, do you dress to impress other women or to impress a man?

Heidi: Neither. My motto has always been: I'm not here to blend in.

Michael: Plus, you've never met a rhinestone you didn't like, right?

Heidi: Are you thinking about the "shattered disco ball" that I wore to the Oscars in 2011? Those large, sparkly earrings and Louboutins that were covered in rhinestones all over, with the extra-extra-high heels.

Michael: They looked like hooves?

Heidi: Exactly, but I have gone out in ones that were considerably worse.

Michael: Yeah, I've seen you in some...

Heidi: Would you tell me when I am too old to be a fashion joke? Because when I look at myself in the mirror, I always think I look totally hot in it. Only a few friends dare to tell me the truth.

Michael: You can be sure of that! When I was five years old, I told my mother that her wedding dress had too many bows and ribbons - although my grandmother thought it was great.

Heidi: And she actually listened to you?

Michael: Yes. We found a better one. I was probably not a normal 5-year-old. I also changed my name back then.

Heidi: You were originally called Karl Anderson, right?

Michael: Yeah, "junior". My nickname was "Chuck". After my mother left Mr. Anderson and married Mr. Kors, I changed my first name at the same time. I thought that "Michael" sounded like a name from the world - very grown-up - and I liked it. What was it like growing up with the name "Heidi"?

Heidi: Everyone thinks of the girl from the mountains, with Peter and the goats, and it's something they immediately brand you with.

Michael: It's like a cult.

Heidi: Today, I believe that I've done more with my life, since I had to put up with that crap from an early age. And I think "Heidi" is a good fit for me: cheerful, a little bit unusual, a little bit naive, a developed sense of humor. I wouldn't trade it in. But "Kors" is really a beautiful, rare last name.

Michael: Mr. Kors was eventually replaced by a third, blue-eyed Swedish husband. But the dress still looks great in the pictures!

Heidi: You're mother was a model?

Michael: Yes, and I was, too. Imagine if you and Leni went to auditions together! Back then, New York was different place. I grew up outside of Manhattan, and my mother and I would go into town together, me with my portfolio, and she with hers. Sometimes she put me in a taxi alone - you could do that back then - and I would go to meet my agent.

Heidi: You did commercials?

Michael: Exactly, and my mother's fashion, beauty and hair. When I was about four, her hair was colored baby pink for a photoshoot, and when she came home with this baby pink hair, I said, "Mommy, you're beautiful!"

Heidi: I haven't thought too much about child modeling. My children have their own personalities, and if they developed a passion for something, I wouldn't put any obstacles in their way. But I wouldn't influence them to go into show business.

Michael: When I first met Karolina Kurkova, she was only 14, but she was as mature as a 25-year-old.

Heidi: Her mother was always there, anyway.

Michael: It's a very tough world to get into if you are that young. Now, it's mandatory in New York that girls have to be at least 16.

Heidi: My family always had an eye on what I was up to. I was very protected, and was really afraid to get into trouble. Can you believe that two months ago was the first time I saw someone using cocaine?

Michael: You're just one of those buttoned-up, good girls. Just like me! Come on, let's go to the pool!

Heidi: I've never been to the pool at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Michael: Of course you've been there already.

Heidi: When was that?

Michael: When you fell in, Darling. With all your clothes on...

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