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She looks so good! The extra weight on her looks amazing, she looks a lot younger.

If Candice and Behati hadn't gotten pregnant I think Lily would have been gone after the show this year. I think they probably extended her contract by a year. As a fan of hers, I hope she leaves soon. She's gotten everything out of the brand that she can and she's not getting any younger, 31 is already pretty "old" for models. Tbh, I think she's heading into or is already in Ale territory now - been on the bench most of her time as an Angel, too "old"/not famous enough for anyone to really give a shit what she does, like with Gisele or Rosie, post-VS. I think she's peaked with VS and in general and it would be smart of her to leave and focus her time elsewhere like she's said she wants to do (skincare/beauty, Lindsay's been quite successful with her own line, same with Rosie). I think Adriana will stay with them for a few more years. They've been using her for VSX like crazy and I could see her wanting to stick around until she was 37 or 38 like Heidi did. Ale needs to go tbh. I like her but they don't need her, not for the commercial or the show at this point. I've never understood Martha's appeal and think she brings nothing to the brand. I get she's American and part of Taylor Swift's ~squad~, but they have other Americans to tick that box and the hype around T. Swift's squad has died down. As much as I like Romee, they don't seem to use her for much and her career outside of VS is pretty good. Same with Sara who seems to really be picking up steam in the HF world. Stella has grown on me for VS but her work outside of it is far superior and she fits better there. It's clear that Elsa, Taylor, Josephine and Jasmine are who they're investing most of their time and money into and who they view as the future of the brand. I think that's a pretty solid group. If I were in charge I'd let go of Ale and Lily first (in the next 1-2 years), then Martha, Stella and Romee (in the 2-3 years). I'd maybe throw in Lais there as much as I love her. Unless things change, and they could since VS is unpredictable, I could see Sara leaving in the next few years too. Elsa, Jasmine, Josephine and Taylor can make up the core group of groups who will be around in 5 years from now. Throw in Adriana, Candice and Behati for the big campaigns/commercials/the VSFS since we know the three of them aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

My guess for opening/closing based on the boards/confirmations: TRA: Elsa/Ale Mountain Romance: Josephine/Romee Secret Angel: Adriana/Sara Dark Angel: Taylor/Lais BNA: Stella/Jasmine Lily and Martha won't do either which is why both are getting two wings whereas some of the O/C girls may not.

I'd love to see Doutzen there too! I wish she was able to walk. I hope to see/I'd put the Angels into (taking into account the confirmed segments for each): Adriana - BNA Ale - BNA or Secret Angels Lily - Dark Angel Elsa - TRA only if she's opening, BNA if she's not Jasmine - Secret Angels Josephine - Mountain Romance (she's perfect for this so I hope she's opening the segment) Lais - Dark Angel Romee - Secret Angels Sara - BNA Stella - Dark Angel Taylor - BNA Non-Angels I'm looking forward to and hoping they don't get stuck in Pink (even though 90% of them will): Gigi - Mountain Romance, Secret Angels Bella - Dark Angel Grace - Mountain Romance Irina - Dark Angel, I can see them putting her in TRA too Luma - BNA Jourdana - They'll probably stick her in TRA

Do we know how many wings each Angel has? And who's opening and closing segments? I know Lily has two wings and someone said Martha's looks each had them in the sketches. I don't think either one is opening or closing a segment, so maybe VS gave them two outfits/two wings because of that whereas the girls who are opening or closing may not get two.

I like this example actually. They try too hard with these segments they come up with now and they end up overstyling everything. If it were the lingerie without all the bells and whistles (the collar, the arm things, even the shoes - stockings with heels would look better IMO), it would be a good outfit because the lingerie itself is lovely.

Another example of them ruining an outfit by not knowing how to edit it. Take off the neck wrap and add an actual choker if they feel they need to have one, but the lace thing they have on her now is too much.

Sometimes I really love her street style and other times I find it to be hideous. I do like that she wears a lot of different looks, though. IA, I think the "split" with The Weeknd is all PR for the VSFS. Whether it was encouraged by VS or her team thought of it, it's going to garner press for both. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they're photographed around the time of the show to drum up more interest.

They aren't even trying to hide it.

Happy Birthday, Lily! Love the video above, one of the reasons she's one of my favorite Angels.

Yikes @ Keke and those Brian Atwoods. TRA is going to be a mess. Hopefully Elsa's outfit isn't too tragic.

I like it more than last year's so far but I think there's too many girls. Would have been better if they'd only had half of them in it.

It looks a lot more promising than the mess that was last year's. Of course Ale did her pointing thing while she was walking.

I somehow missed that Nina hasn't shot yet. I forgot the first "location" was a little strange so yeah, I think they could do two more. I'm interested to see which vets that haven't shot yet are back for those.

What girls from last year's issue haven't shot yet? Irina, Gigi, Erin, Emily and Lily all come to mind. It's possible that some will be at the last location next month (?) but obviously not all.

I don't care about their relationship or lack of one either, but you know the press will be all over it. Anyway, needs moar cat gifs:

I'm good with Ale or Elsa opening, but I still hope it's Elsa. I think that they'll open and close the first segment.

Is there any validity to the rumor that Adriana and Ale are each getting three outfits? I've seen it floating around Instagram.

Lily isn't in TRA so she's out for opening or closing. I said this when I read she's getting two outfits with two wings, but I don't think she'll open or close any segments.

I hate the bodysuit they have on her in that look. It would be perfect without it (and the latex boots, another kind of fabric would be fine). I seriously hope she's opening. Happy Birthday to everyone's favorite Ice Queen!

Why they're covering up Elsa's amazing body is beyond me. Her talking about how her other outfit is bright and colorful makes me think she's in TRA. If that's the case, she better be opening because otherwise it's not worth the probable mess. Agree with everyone saying a lot of these looks are overstyled and that's what ruins them. Another example of the team needing to be replaced or revamped.

It's not even subtle anymore. For pre-show, drink every time Lily screws up reading the teleprompter.

Not doubting you but where? In both the board with the sketches and the board with the pictures of Barbara wearing the outfits, neither opening look appears to be what Ale's wearing.

Are the only confirmed openings and closings Taylor, Sara and Jasmine?

I think people were speculating she would based on the board. We all assumed she would either open or close that segment. I like that she's closing.