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The VS website, I should have clarified, I meant pre-show. I actually think she looks worse.

The stream is basically unwatchable for me, is anyone else having that issue?

A play button showed up right at 6/9 for me.

Time for this mess of a pre show to start. Drink every time Monica insults a model and they don't realize it.

+1. I love her but I think her time with VS is up. She's always been mature looking but it's really starting to show.

I don't think they should have more than 10 Angels at a time. They become pretty interchangeable. Like @AngelAshley94 said that while they're obviously beautiful, some of their current lineup lacks personality which is a big part of being an Angel. IMO a solid lineup for the next year or so is Adriana, Candice, Behati, Elsa, Jasmine, Jo, Sara and Taylor. Keep the first three around for the press they garner/to show up for the big stuff and let the rest front campaigns, events, etc. @PastaFreak The guess is that contracts are renewed sometime between now and February, at least for the NA.

I love the sound of this, I hope they choose to air that version of it. When you throw the FB in the middle of a segment ( ) the least they could do was something like that to highlight it. Jasmine's walk also looked FB worthy, I'm excited to see her in BNA.

That group I can't wait to see the photos. It seems like they have Adri doing a LOT of promo for the show this year.

I agree with you, I don't think the 2016 show was her last one. However, I do think that 2017 could be. IMO there's a lot of things that point to her time winding down with VS in the near future. I'm curious to see how much she'll be used once Candice and Behati are back seeing as how she was used even less than she was this year while they were working. I'm not sure about another lingerie brand picking her up. I think she's been with VS so long that she'll always be associated with that and I doubt another lingerie brand wants that. Bigger and +1

I think there's a few things. One, her contract is allegedly up this year. People are speculating she may get or have gotten a one year extension because both Candice and Behati needed time off for their pregnancies and that she'll be on a year-to-year basis now. Out of all the Angels, she has had less pictures released than everyone minus Alessandra for the past two years. I think even Adriana shoots for VS more now. With the NA taking precedence + Candice and Behati coming back next year, there isn't as much of a need for her. A lot of their newer girls are becoming great spokesmodels (one of the places she shines). I also think it has to do with age, like you guessed. She has a mature look and while that may have worked for VS in the past, it's clear they're going for a more youthful image. Surrounding the show and why people think she's leaving because of things that happened - Jasmine was supposed to close the show (two separate credible sources reported it) and that seemingly got changed last minute. Lily's outfit also looks like it belongs in another section so people speculated she got moved from SA to BNA (to close) in the eleventh hour. It may have been a thank you or goodbye gift from Ed and Sophia if they know she's leaving soon. With Candice and Behati back for next year's show, a lot of attention will be on them. Obviously I have no clue how much Lily will be featured on the broadcast but she seemed like a bit of a non-factor this year, even with closing. So it may have been her last time to have a moment and shine. This is all speculation, of course, and a mix of my take on it and what I've read in the main VSFS thread. I was wondering about the credit card too.

Yeah, I think the almond debacle on RHOBH was a little insight as to how things go there. I've seen a ton of comments about how skinny Gigi is now. She used have such a banging body and she was still getting booked like crazy when she had more weight on her. While not entirely surprising to see her drop so much (considering some... things), it's still sad. At least Bella made a comment about how she didn't like how much weight she lost for the VSFS.

As awful as the Swim special was, it at least allowed us to figure out who was sticking around for another year and who hadn't gotten their contract renewed for the two years it was on the air. Now it's a bit more tricky. But I agree with the guess that Adriana, Ale and Lily are all on year to year contracts at this point. I wonder when Candice and Behati will be back.

I thought this too, she gives me Lily vibes only she's more of a bombshell and more versatile. @Kells. Cabe.

That's what I said too! She doesn't have a powerful walk so it doesn't look so newborn deer when she can walk at a slower, more at ease pace.

+1. It felt really rushed and you hardly got to see the outfits or the models. I can only imagine the disaster that TRA is going to be with 17 looks. @Rca Seconding @Sanni's request re: the Lily being upset stuff. There was something a little off about her participation in the show this year IMO. I said this in Grace's thread but she really does look like a 90s supermodel. I love that vibe and that's what VS needs more of.

I haven't purchased anything from Pink in years but Grace makes me want to. I do think there's going to be some shake ups to the lineup this upcoming year. I'm curious to see what the lineup looks like come around the 2017 show and the hierarchy of it.

Interesting that the finale walk out order changed for the second taping. I wonder why.

Thank you for all the updates! SO happy she opened (with Bill). I can't wait to see her walk and hopefully they don't go edit crazy and we get to see most of it.

Her family is so cute! I get such 90s supermodel vibes from her. I can't wait to see what she does in 2017. I hope VS doesn't keep her stuck in Pink for too long, it would be a waste.

I wish they'd gone with a different color for the bra in MR but other than that, I thought she had some of the best outfits. Her wings for SA are going to look amazing in motion. I really hope she opens a section next year too, she's only improving. I'm sure VS will resign her when the time comes. She's not used as much as some of the others but I think she adds something to the lineup. Here's to hoping they use her more in 2017.

The article linked says: Looks like they're just upgrading to a bigger space. I find it a bit interesting she's not outright selling it and instead renting it out. She was missed at the VSFS year but the show was pretty underwhelming IMO, at least based on pictures.

Romee's bobo job is tragic. Which is a shame because she's beautiful but they're super distracting. They should know better than to put her in bras that emphasize the obvious unnatural roundness. I thought T. Swift's looked bolted on but Romee's are next level.

Thanks for all the updates! So, another VSFS. Her first look was a little boring but wasn't bad, per say. I wish they'd kept the skirt on it or given her boots like Iza. The music is slow in that segment so I think her walk should be okay in it! Her second look, while gorgeous, (loved the wings) looked like it belonged in Secret Angel (it looked exactly the same as Georgia's lingerie in that segment). I think they moved her from SA to BNA (possibly to close?). Which brings me to... This being her last show. All we can do is speculate, which is what people seem to be doing like crazy. I'm on the fence about it. She's done pretty much everything she can do there and they really don't use her much anymore. I think even Adriana gets used more than her at this point. Something feels off about her BNA outfit and her closing in it which makes me think that it was some kind of thank you/goodbye present from the team and wasn't necessarily their original plan for her or the closing. On the other hand, I could easily see her coming back next year, either as her last year as an Angel or like Lindsay/Erin/etc/ did. I do, however, think she'll be used less than she was last year for things due to Candice and Behati being back + them going to the NA for things a lot more. It wouldn't surprise me if she only shot holiday stuff and did the show. But only time will tell.