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Oh I grouped Candice fans right up there with Adriana fans, it doesn't matter which side of the equation you're looking at it, it's fucking stupid. Some of them are fine, perfect sane individuals. It's the ones that aren't crazy who aren't going to take offense. Look at dizzymisslizzy, she likes Adriana, she's a fan of Adriana but she's not a psychotic individual who has to justify everything she does as being perfect and amazing. As for it being psychology, no stupidity isn't psychology, it's just stupid.

Oh no, I'm not saying any of the Adriana fans are stupid, or crazy.. just that I can't stand them, hence the no offense. But honestly, no offense is really the polite way of saying I don't give a fuck..

And this whole thing reminds me why I can't stand Adriana's fans.. No offense guys.. but wow. Just wait until the 5th and lets stop speculating.. or hell wait until official information is released.. this is like a dead horse that has 40 people beating it over and over and over. And, the amazing thing is the Candice fans are turning into the Adriana fans. Her thread is becoming like Barbara, Bar and Adriana's threads.. dead zones that you only go into for brief periods of times for the lols before your head starts hurting after a post or two.

omg, this is like 5 pages of novels.. it's amazingly retarded.

The point I was making about Adriana is that she's kinda turning into the Heidi of VS, which has been commented on about before. I don't care about the fact that it's her wearing "Candice's Fantasy Bra", it wouldn't matter who was wearing it. Alessandra, Adriana, Behati, Ed Razek... I would feel bad for Candice regardless, because what is supposed to be an honor and privilege has become debased and made a little less special. Actually seeing Ed in the bra might make me feel a little less bad for Candice because I would be more humored... but still, it's not a very diplomatic thing to do, and will quite probably create more tension between the girls. It's also a bad marketing strategy, as they aren't "showcasing" the women who will quite probably be taking Adriana's place when she retires.

What is shaded supposed to mean? And self appearances don't really matter, as they're all touted as being Adriana Lima Victoria's Secret Angel. She's not getting a role, she's making a cameo as herself. And the short film she did was back in 2001, which is basically negligible and obsolete now. And those the ones that jumped out at me, I know Laetitia Casta has gone on to do other things, I believe movies, but I honestly don't know because I don't care about most of these women. So it's quite possible, and highly probable that a number of the women that have previously been Angels have gone on to do other things. I know most of their late 90's early 2000's have.. not so sure about the newer ones.

Umm, you clearly missed the real comparison, and it wasn't the fact that Adriana has done nothing outside of fashion, it was the first line..... But to point out the clear inaccuracy of Heidi being rare in branching out Karolina Kurkova - Television show Marisa Miller - Endorsements, NFL, TV Miranda Kerr - Organic makeup line, books Gisele Bundchen - flipflops, real estate, movies Tyra Banks - Television shows galore Stephanie Seymour - Music Videos, Entrepreneur Ignoring the rest of the modeling world and just focusing on the VS models, It's only this new crop of models who come across as lazy.. They aren't branching out. They're creating a name for themselves and doing nothing with it.

I sharpened the image to see it better and the bottoms are the same. The little straps that went up over Candice's hip bones have been pushed down, however one of the straps is still kinda up on Adriana's hip, I sharpened the hell out of it so you could see the strap. As for the blue stones, they could of been removed for whatever reason... maybe something with the set lighting wouldn't allow for the blue to be picked up on camera that well, so they just replaced them with non-colored stones. From this pic and bottoms and bra look to be the FB set. Oh and the episode is airing 5 days before the VSFS. That's horrible for Candice the attention will be focused on Dri wearing the FB and as a result more people will expect her to wear the bra and not Candice. I still think its the stones that makes it skecthy. But not the blue ones. I see the blue ones, barely but they there. Its the area with the "red ruby" and the bow that gets me, the shit looks silver. It could just be the diamonds reflecting or some shit like that but thats the part that makes a small part of me think its fake but I still just think its the lightening and the camera The entire bow is done in white diamond and there's white diamond set into the gold that surrounds the ruby, so yes it'll look silver if there is any lighting reflecting off of it.

And next we'll see a special on Adriana and how she got back into shape and how her day goes... oh wait, no that was Heidi... sorry. The big difference between Adriana and Heidi, is Heidi branched out of fashion and made a name for herself, whereas Adriana is really only known for VS. I'm not a huge fan of Candice, but goddamn I feel bad for her.

It could be a bra that looks similar, and they just took the giant ruby that hangs down and mounted it on the bra Adriana was going to wear? That's where the vast majority of the cost came from for the fantasy bra. And you guys, just because VS has shoved Candice down our throat doesn't mean that's her fault. It's still a quote on quote honor to wear the bra, and it's still like a backdoor donkey punch to Candice to even potentially let Adriana wear it or something remarkably similar to it on a hit tv show just days before the airing of the actual VSFS. I've never gotten the appeal of Adriana, but I'm not running around pulling some bitch maneuver and saying she's not THAT special. The company has made it quite clear that they think she's that special, and to reiterate, this is just bad marketing. Adriana is, as much as no one wants to admit it getting older, and she will at some point, probably in the next couple of years retire, whereas Candice may, (or may not) be around for quite a bit longer. She's currently as everyone has put it, their golden girl. They really have no up and comers that can even fit her shoes, let alone the shoes above her on their roster of fame. So why not take the time to actually throw her out to an actual main stream audience, promote their show, and the fantasy bra and try and make her known to an audience outside of the fashion community.

The behind the scenes video where Candice talks was quite probably scripted, so her saying it was molded to her body is almost believable. The bra definitely sits differently on Adriana, at least it looks that way based on the one grainy shot we have of Adriana in it. It's much more separated between the breasts. Honestly, I don't care who it was molded to, or for who it was made, it's incredibly bad PR to have Adriana model it on a show, and lead the audience to believe that she'll be sporting it on the runway when it's already been released in their Christmas catalog that Candice is wearing it. Just bad marketing all around. But to tell Candice she got the bra, then to turn around and give it to Adriana on a television show is like giving Candice a sucker, and as soon as she finally gets the wrapping off being like, "oh no, sorry not for you" and snatching it back only to turn around and give it to the girl next to her. Stealing candy from babies and all that.

Thank you jal, lovely scans

lol something like that

Actually it's quite clever, just most people, (especially in this day and age where the internet has mentally retarded us all) don't step back and think of archaic words that aren't commonly thrown into a dialogue.

Unless they were trying to make a catchy phrase with gilt and guilty... and it didn't take off very well?

My only thought is how everyone oohed and ahhed, and gushed over Adriana's Black Diamond Fantasy Bra.. even though it had different patterns on the cup and made one side look huge and the other slightly deflated in comparison. So in retrospect people showing this much hatred/anger/disappointment is laughable at best, ridiculously stupid at worst.

Just going to point out that the fantasy bra has, as to date never been featured in a country themed segment, not to mention if you look at the crown shown, which I realize was used as a random point of reference, emeralds are featured quite prominently, so the color pattern isn't quite accurate in regards to the Fantasy bra. Also, has anyone taken into consideration that there may very well be a Royal segment, and a British Invasion segment, to keep it nice and segregated. It's not like there aren't tonnes of reference materials available for a quote on quote royal themed segment, different and diverse ideas/cultures and as Baron pointed out it's not like VS has ever shown a tendency towards political correctness until after they're called on it.

Oh and now she's back. THEY SO MUST HAVE REHIRED HER! DID I SAY THAT IT MEANT THEY FIRED HER? i just pointed out she wasnt there GOSh why the fuck are you watching my posts so hard.. you must be a miserable person to constantly talk shit to a random person on a fucking thread

For the love of all things wikipedia is 99% inaccurate because dumbasses on the internets can go and change whatever they want, including you, me and the boy down the street. To use that as your "fact" checking is beyond silly.

I cannot legally release any information as of now. And please define cute? Because I don't find Nina cute at all, and Brooklyn isn't a puppy, she is a sexy adult. I'll see what I can do for the future, but like I said, I don't really want to take the book apart.