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I didn't say this was the final . I figured I'd start off with that just to get my feet wet a little and was curious to see how a #2 vs. #3 battle would go. But my ultimate plan is to put them in groups and somehow make everyone compete against everyone else in that group. Part of that plan is to have 1 against 3 or 4 at different points (though I would have to block the pics and present them neater of course...) and then the person that beats the most people would win. If there is a tie, then the person of those tied with the largest average margin of victory would win. *edit* Okay, scratch the 20 vote minimum, if there are 15 votes and winner is mathematically certain and its been up for at least a day, we'll move on which thus eliminates the margin of victory as a tie breaker angle, so in case of tie they'd just go head to head instead.... Sure thing .

Oh, yeah, its no sweat I just didn't want to cost her points for a pic I didn't ask her about beforehand, but its all fine . Did I mention the tallest basketball players are Chinese :morning: ? So its only fitting fashion would have small booty Brazilians :morning: . "Just because fashion doesn't represent me, does not mean my voice is not heard." (2 votes needed, but new round when I get back...)

Many ninja voters ... I'm still not sure...Need more time, great explainations for those that voted... But since the underratedness of right place right time's been questioned (Deja Vu of flat soft stomach in abs poll :| ) When you read the bio when its all said and done, individual greatness along with the merit of one's actions such as work ect. will be the focal point of the story. It will talk of their beauty, walk, charisma, sometimes connections (famous boyfriends, family ect. which is not underrated of course) and hard work and other things, but is taboo to say there were 30 like them that never got the shot. There are many models in high fashion today who are hard working and intelligent, but would not have had a job 25 years ago, but being in the right place at the right time, they were allowed to see the fruits of their hard work and determination :morning: .

Tallest basketball players are Chinese, that's all I have to say :morning: . So its only fitting fashion would have small booty Brazilians :morning: .

Anyone know the 4th one in post #1019 and 10th one (with afro and jean skirt) in post 1017 ?

I'm thinking maybe I should stay with the 20 voter format or maybe 25...It won't matter as much with these two since everyone knows them but I'm going to have to go back to the origninal 4 pics only format ...I'm also not sure how to do the groups...last time we did by popularity on BZ and I was originally going to go by rank bracket but obviously Doutzen and Adriana will walk over everyone in their rank bracket (the 3s 2s and 4s thus backfiring on those that gave them). So I guess I'll just go by feel .

Nice, especially the one on the sofa , the bad wig looking hair die almost doesn't even matter .

Awww, that is a cute smile .

I should have known, but didn't recognize . But at least it got done anyway . *edit* someone pm'ed me with a different idea, I'll leave it open for now...

Have you seen one of her shows ! Such a smooth, elegant bop she has .

2 Votes needed for Isabeli (Cintia Dicker, Nominated by Ophelia_Immortal) here's a couple others . (click to enlarge) -4, revenge oh so sweet :evil: . j/k Oh, Mona how it gladdens my heart to see you . Oh, Cintia how I love thee, let me count the ways .

:shock: / ... We're not in NBA 2K9 anymore Todo :shock: .....I tried a little Final Fantasy a couple days ago to start my training in these non-sport, strategy fighting type games, couldn't get past the first 5 minutes without confusion, death or failure, kinda made me want to eat my own face off, but looks awesome anyways .

That's Ana Maria Jagodzinska :wub2: who I call "Jaggy Waggy" . And she's just doing a little dance . She's very fun back stage . 3 Votes Needed for Isabeli

Title changed as requested .

Since she inquired about it and I don't have time to do 3 contests I'm turning over the running to Vogue Girl . I know she'll be great . I'll assist any way needed . Nomination list here http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1725300

Same . Its funny I've seen several say this about 07 and 08 and ironically those are the first and only shows I've seen .

@ Vogue Girl, that is a great idea, and sorry for the delay. I probably won't have enough time to do 3 comps at once, but if you want to take it over now http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...40&start=40 , I can put in the description "Run by Vogue Girl" and be your assistand . Well...I guess I'm ever the one to jump out on a limb . Guess I'll start with the #2 ranked person (Candice) vs. the #3 ranked person (Valentina) and see how that goes . My Vote Valentina x3

I know this is pretty sloppy right now , but I'm working on it... Candice Swanepoel (Nominated by TheBaronofFratton and Phenobarbie) Valentina (Pictures by @lice) @lice, Valentina x3 Baron, Candice x3 Points Beauty (2 points) - beauty Natural (1 point) - A combination of natural skin quality and how close they look to their personal best without makeup Or Natural Beauty would = The Person x3 Alternate Option = 1.5 each Within that distribute as you please

Oops *edits* I remember you told me the A lost time so I remembered that and now put an I in there . But congrats to Veronika and Czech Republic .

Good choice, and thanks for speaking up for your choice . And we read many stories about models having fragrances, furniture companies, tv shows and starting businesses and working hard too . All 3 are common and none are totally overlooked, but the reason I put being at the right place ect. on there is because I'm used to hearing and seeing girls told they didn't make it only because they weren't good enough and didn't apply themselves enough. The "not good enough" also covers the girls who got discovered randomly as being discovered because they are good enough moreso than being lucky. There are also many who apply themselves even more, have the same tools and don't make it. But in light of many being taught if they want it hard enough they can make it happen, its somewhat taboo to say "you just weren't fortunate enough". Even though the ones that got discovered at the scating ring didn't apply themself initially, they are still considered to be the "good enough" in said cases. There are many models that got discoverred in a mall and theme parks. But there are also many models who actually go to modeling schools, send pictures to agents, try out at agencies and enter modeling competitions to purposefully initiate a modeling career (some as early as 14/15 years old or younger) and become models that way. Linda Evangelista's childhood dream was to become a model, Natasha Poly won a model search competition, Cindy Crawford was a veledictorian with an academic scholarship but left school to pursue modeling and won the Elite model look of the Year contest. So there's also many people who were proactive and many avenues to allow one to be proactive. Are there waitresses that sing better than girls on the radio? Yes. Are there bus drivers that can act better than many actors? Yes, we all know this. But many are still somewhat programmed to say that you either didn't make it because you weren't good enough or didn't apply yourself enough. In that sense I feel the good fortune becomes underrated in those cases. And when you hear or read people talk about what it was that allowed them to get where they are even with being discovered as a security guard the good fortune of having "all the right stuff" will most often overshadow the good fortune of being there to be seen. In other words, it was that much easier to spot them doing regular things because they had the right stuff (in theory) to many people. But any choice is good, but all are underrated to some degree .

Warning: Unsexiest Poll Ever, lol But just wanted to know what people thought . More on all 3... Business savy is an underrated quality because many people just don't naturally associate models with intelligence, but some models are brilliant business women and thus enhance their career with said skills. Good fortune (that is being at the right place at the right time, not the good fortune of having said looks) is underrated because, contrary to the "make my own destiny" concept, every tall, skinny, pretty girl (even those who love fashion) won't become a model, but there is something to be said for having the good fortune to be in the right place at the same time. Passion and determination are underrated because you can enhance your career in anything by loving it more and working harder. Some models have done just that. Their love for fashion and great work ethic has allowed them a achomplish much more than the "well, my friends said I should give it a shot...I guess I'll just see where it goes".

Updated Rankings *updated again* (Excluding those without the required 25 minimum votes) Stephanie Seymour 9.25 Heidi Klum 9.108 Veronica Varikova 9.038 Clara Morgane 9.004 Petra Nemcova 8.981 Adriana Lima 8.945 Emmanuella De Paula 8.895 Daniela Pestova 8.888 Cindy Crawford 8.868 Tyra Banks 8.825 Irina Sheik 8.82 Yamila Diaz Rahi 8.794 Paulina Porizkova 8.723 Josie Maran 8.681 Sarah Shahi 8.678 Gisele 8.671 Pampita 8.663 Fernanda Tevares 8.635 Catrinel 8.607 Candice Swanepoel 8.548 Salma Hayek 8.547 Daneel Harris 8.515 Adriana Karembeau 8.511 Jesia 8.496 Isabeli Fontana 8.486 Eva Herzibova 8.452 Bridgette Bardot 8.444 Laetitia Casta 8.433 Raquel Welch 8.43 Abigail Clancy 8.414 Rianne Ten Haken 8.413 Izabel Goulart 8.372 Dita Von Teese 8.365 Karolina Kurkova 8.336 Christie Brinkley 8.324 Alina V 8.32 Emmanuelle Beart 8.248 Cintia Dicker 8.215 Olga Kurylenko 8.212 Stacy Keibler 8.208 Daniella Sarahyba 8.198 Emilia Attais 8.189 Reka 8.184 Heather Stewart Whyte 8.054 Alessandra Ambrosio 8.041 Monica Bellucci 7.944 Shakira 7.915 Brooklyn Decker 7.8 Karla Rodriguez 7.793 Keeley Hazel 7.763 Esti Ginzborg 7.752 Elsa Benitez 7.752 Vanessa Demouy 7.696 Rico 7.625 Ana Beatriz Barros 7.528 Natalia Vadionova 7.397 Miranda Kerr 7.394 Blake Lively 7.358 Doutzen Kroes 7.341 Meagan Good 7.328 Sophie Marceau 7.271 Layla El 7.232 Ashley Richardson 7.21 Emily Didonato 7.187 Vanessa Pardis 7.068 Vica Andrade 7.057

:rofl: @ frenchkiki I never understood giving models (especially commercial models) 3s and 2s, but now that I have a blue print for the 3 I guess I do. If she'd loose a little weight there's a contract weiting on her . @ CarMelita, oh , I'm honored too Limer, I thought it was Lime , but glad you like it . No prob Amy Fan . @ Roxanne and Estrella @ Jennka & Voguegirl @ Voguegirl, well....at the time I didn't have time to run it and also the rules and structure was never truly decided on (what range of videos to have in it, whether to have male and female or just female or send it to another subforum ect. ect. ect. , I wouldn't mind if someone else took it over and I just helped them ) Oh, Jennks , well....not really actually. The first part was putting them in groups and having them face each other, the second part is scoring and I actually did have an idea for a third part which is one of 2 things. A) since the voters are relatively different now, just use the nominations we have there to put the in groups and have them compete head to head again B) I had an idea to have them go head to head more thorouhly by like having one go against 3 at a time and you vote on who is the best out of the three and the person that beats the most people wins. I would need feedback and help with developing that idea though .

Vica was pushing 40 and a mother too . But good for Isabeli anyways .