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Since she inquired about it and I don't have time to do 3 contests I'm turning over the running to Vogue Girl . I know she'll be great . I'll assist any way needed . Nomination list here http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1725300

Same . Its funny I've seen several say this about 07 and 08 and ironically those are the first and only shows I've seen .

@ Vogue Girl, that is a great idea, and sorry for the delay. I probably won't have enough time to do 3 comps at once, but if you want to take it over now http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...40&start=40 , I can put in the description "Run by Vogue Girl" and be your assistand . Well...I guess I'm ever the one to jump out on a limb . Guess I'll start with the #2 ranked person (Candice) vs. the #3 ranked person (Valentina) and see how that goes . My Vote Valentina x3

I know this is pretty sloppy right now , but I'm working on it... Candice Swanepoel (Nominated by TheBaronofFratton and Phenobarbie) Valentina (Pictures by @lice) @lice, Valentina x3 Baron, Candice x3 Points Beauty (2 points) - beauty Natural (1 point) - A combination of natural skin quality and how close they look to their personal best without makeup Or Natural Beauty would = The Person x3 Alternate Option = 1.5 each Within that distribute as you please

Oops *edits* I remember you told me the A lost time so I remembered that and now put an I in there . But congrats to Veronika and Czech Republic .

Good choice, and thanks for speaking up for your choice . And we read many stories about models having fragrances, furniture companies, tv shows and starting businesses and working hard too . All 3 are common and none are totally overlooked, but the reason I put being at the right place ect. on there is because I'm used to hearing and seeing girls told they didn't make it only because they weren't good enough and didn't apply themselves enough. The "not good enough" also covers the girls who got discovered randomly as being discovered because they are good enough moreso than being lucky. There are also many who apply themselves even more, have the same tools and don't make it. But in light of many being taught if they want it hard enough they can make it happen, its somewhat taboo to say "you just weren't fortunate enough". Even though the ones that got discovered at the scating ring didn't apply themself initially, they are still considered to be the "good enough" in said cases. There are many models that got discoverred in a mall and theme parks. But there are also many models who actually go to modeling schools, send pictures to agents, try out at agencies and enter modeling competitions to purposefully initiate a modeling career (some as early as 14/15 years old or younger) and become models that way. Linda Evangelista's childhood dream was to become a model, Natasha Poly won a model search competition, Cindy Crawford was a veledictorian with an academic scholarship but left school to pursue modeling and won the Elite model look of the Year contest. So there's also many people who were proactive and many avenues to allow one to be proactive. Are there waitresses that sing better than girls on the radio? Yes. Are there bus drivers that can act better than many actors? Yes, we all know this. But many are still somewhat programmed to say that you either didn't make it because you weren't good enough or didn't apply yourself enough. In that sense I feel the good fortune becomes underrated in those cases. And when you hear or read people talk about what it was that allowed them to get where they are even with being discovered as a security guard the good fortune of having "all the right stuff" will most often overshadow the good fortune of being there to be seen. In other words, it was that much easier to spot them doing regular things because they had the right stuff (in theory) to many people. But any choice is good, but all are underrated to some degree .

Warning: Unsexiest Poll Ever, lol But just wanted to know what people thought . More on all 3... Business savy is an underrated quality because many people just don't naturally associate models with intelligence, but some models are brilliant business women and thus enhance their career with said skills. Good fortune (that is being at the right place at the right time, not the good fortune of having said looks) is underrated because, contrary to the "make my own destiny" concept, every tall, skinny, pretty girl (even those who love fashion) won't become a model, but there is something to be said for having the good fortune to be in the right place at the same time. Passion and determination are underrated because you can enhance your career in anything by loving it more and working harder. Some models have done just that. Their love for fashion and great work ethic has allowed them a achomplish much more than the "well, my friends said I should give it a shot...I guess I'll just see where it goes".

Updated Rankings *updated again* (Excluding those without the required 25 minimum votes) Stephanie Seymour 9.25 Heidi Klum 9.108 Veronica Varikova 9.038 Clara Morgane 9.004 Petra Nemcova 8.981 Adriana Lima 8.945 Emmanuella De Paula 8.895 Daniela Pestova 8.888 Cindy Crawford 8.868 Tyra Banks 8.825 Irina Sheik 8.82 Yamila Diaz Rahi 8.794 Paulina Porizkova 8.723 Josie Maran 8.681 Sarah Shahi 8.678 Gisele 8.671 Pampita 8.663 Fernanda Tevares 8.635 Catrinel 8.607 Candice Swanepoel 8.548 Salma Hayek 8.547 Daneel Harris 8.515 Adriana Karembeau 8.511 Jesia 8.496 Isabeli Fontana 8.486 Eva Herzibova 8.452 Bridgette Bardot 8.444 Laetitia Casta 8.433 Raquel Welch 8.43 Abigail Clancy 8.414 Rianne Ten Haken 8.413 Izabel Goulart 8.372 Dita Von Teese 8.365 Karolina Kurkova 8.336 Christie Brinkley 8.324 Alina V 8.32 Emmanuelle Beart 8.248 Cintia Dicker 8.215 Olga Kurylenko 8.212 Stacy Keibler 8.208 Daniella Sarahyba 8.198 Emilia Attais 8.189 Reka 8.184 Heather Stewart Whyte 8.054 Alessandra Ambrosio 8.041 Monica Bellucci 7.944 Shakira 7.915 Brooklyn Decker 7.8 Karla Rodriguez 7.793 Keeley Hazel 7.763 Esti Ginzborg 7.752 Elsa Benitez 7.752 Vanessa Demouy 7.696 Rico 7.625 Ana Beatriz Barros 7.528 Natalia Vadionova 7.397 Miranda Kerr 7.394 Blake Lively 7.358 Doutzen Kroes 7.341 Meagan Good 7.328 Sophie Marceau 7.271 Layla El 7.232 Ashley Richardson 7.21 Emily Didonato 7.187 Vanessa Pardis 7.068 Vica Andrade 7.057

:rofl: @ frenchkiki I never understood giving models (especially commercial models) 3s and 2s, but now that I have a blue print for the 3 I guess I do. If she'd loose a little weight there's a contract weiting on her . @ CarMelita, oh , I'm honored too Limer, I thought it was Lime , but glad you like it . No prob Amy Fan . @ Roxanne and Estrella @ Jennka & Voguegirl @ Voguegirl, well....at the time I didn't have time to run it and also the rules and structure was never truly decided on (what range of videos to have in it, whether to have male and female or just female or send it to another subforum ect. ect. ect. , I wouldn't mind if someone else took it over and I just helped them ) Oh, Jennks , well....not really actually. The first part was putting them in groups and having them face each other, the second part is scoring and I actually did have an idea for a third part which is one of 2 things. A) since the voters are relatively different now, just use the nominations we have there to put the in groups and have them compete head to head again B) I had an idea to have them go head to head more thorouhly by like having one go against 3 at a time and you vote on who is the best out of the three and the person that beats the most people wins. I would need feedback and help with developing that idea though .

Vica was pushing 40 and a mother too . But good for Isabeli anyways .

You mean the "thanks Pretty, pheno and ariesdior"? .... ....?

Wow, she's so cute ! and the legs ain't bad either . This shoot is just too good .

I just love it and thought I'd share .

Sentimental alert...3....2....1.... And that's one of the things so great about you Jennka is that you love diversity . I need some catchup votes so I can post the full list with updated scores... Votes Needed... Daniella Sarahyba (3 votes) http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1947751 Emily Didonato (2 votes) http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1945202 Layla El (2 votes) http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1944468 Pampita (1 vote) http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1943487 I also feel the need to explain why I emphasize this since I meant to earlier. Of course before we started part of the rules were that 25 votes were manditory for ending the round. But the reason for that itself is in the face comp, the minimum was 20 votes. But I found that if 3/20 just so happen to hate you, they have too much power. Example: (these 3 of course actually hating you for the illustration) 17 8s + 3 3s / 20 = 7.25 Not a terrible score but that's a huge hit anyway and you'd never guess they got 17 8s. So the extra 5 votes is just a grace to balance out that sting a little. So, can I get those votes please and thanks for voting in general .

Its always interresting to see some evaluate one as superior while and others (like me) vote them closely . We're just quite the family . Roxanne. It seems some complain about "too many Brazilian models" which I find funny on so many levels (the first of which being its not like they even make up HALF of models ), but sounds to me maybe we don't have enough before too much . Daniella needs 5 votes or so, but gotta move on ... (Isabeli Fontana, Nominated by Roxanne) /monthly_10_2009/post-17304-0-1446063951-51723_thumb.jpg" data-fileid="3280165" alt="post-17304-0-1446063951-51723_thumb.jpg" data-ratio="66.83"> she's hot ! And as a side note I just LOOOVE her on the runway . My Score 8 .

Thanks Pretty . Thanks pheno and ariesdior ... Thread Edited . Not saying all of it needed to be edited, but, well, to be most real witcha' :blueeyedbaby: I just didn't feel like reading it all . Bits may be restored when I do....But as a side note how is it the girl in the middle has "legs for days" in comparisson? Looks like taller with not long legs vs. short with regular length legs to me . But anyway... constructive criticism is all fine and good or saying "I don't like her legs or what's up with her legs" is all fine and good, but "mind f***" and "skinny as a crackhead" not so much. To get a measurement, of where the line should be, we can always just insert our favorite in there. If someone instead said Adriana had the teeth of a crackhead for example, would that be acceptible ? We appreciate the enthusiasm, but lets be mindful of the rules and other fans .

Her's is still the biggest in SI though . But I just think fashion just isn't yet ready to accept a full range of booties yet and that medium sized type booty is just they type they preffer to represent at the moment. And of course nothing is absolute for any group and famous people in any group (in this case AnaBB ect.) don't represent the whole (the tallest basketball player in the NBA (Yao Ming, 7'6) as well as in the world (Sun Ming, Ming 7'9) are Chinnese for example and the fattest action hero in the world is also Chinese ), but averages are what matter and by average Brazilians are definitely bigger and rounder than almost every other group in the world . And speaking of averages, Roxanne, what's average you is still above average for most of the world overall . Stacy Keibler's booty wouldn't be a big deal if she were Brazilian (or black, Colombian, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Portuguese...), but to her fans its legendary. Being slim is average in Slovakia but in America there's a weight loss commercial or gimmick on every time you turn around, many in America need die to get jet black hair, but its average in China, but I guess that's just the story of the world .

Thanks Penny ! I was trying to find that shoot but just spelled her name wrong I guess . Glad you guys like her too .

Didn't you nominate her ? I know what you mean. I definitely don't think it deserves a plaque and sure there are tons like it or better but I still find myself hard pressed to find a better one in VS or SI. But always feel free to nominate or post some extraodrinary booties .

Kim's cool wit me . I think (aside from being in SI last year) that new editorial with Adam Lambert will give her more exposure . 7 votes needed for Vica 14 needed for Daniella Vica - 9.5 Daniella - 9.5

I saw her with the diamond bra in some pics Pink Couture posted in the VS section, good for her !

One of the best smoldering eyese/luscious lips/lovely smile combos in fashion .

Yeah its in this thread, here you go http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...t&p=1517682 I just remembered it ended with a song too . Also read the comments during and after, just gold .

She's winning the "battle of the bods" competition .

Same :morning: Yay!! Believe it or not Joe, but I came to this thread now just to see if somebody will quote my voting and write "same here" Well, I do believe it because, many are probably thinking the same thing . Same ! I must admit I love that Doutzen ensemble ... !!! And something about that Andi thing , looks like a prissy super hero or something, I don't know .